T61p Game Screen Shots

Correct.

It can play in higher resolutions but really doesn't perform as well as other games like Crysis. With the 174.31 drivers Crysis plays better than COD4.

Could be problems with the DEMO too.'


The Orange Box plays very well at high settings and high resolutions.

I just bought it last weekend and have played it a few hours during this last week.



The T61p has decent gaming power.

IMO 3DMark06 scores give a good idea as far as the gaming ability of the T61p. That is why I have included benchmark scores in my sig.


I have noticed that there are many 8600m powered notebook users that don't score as well as the T61p does.

So... If you find information about people gaming with a 8600m GT powered notebook keep in mind that the performance of the T61p for games should be at least as good or more than likely better.

 

The 256 mb vram in the gpu is the limiting factor when it comes to higher resolutions and/or turning on AA. It's best to use lower resolutions on games than the native resolution.

 

Portal screen shot.

 

HL2 Lost Coast

 

I have almost the same config as you SonDa5 (3GB RAM instead of 4GB). Do you think I should get the NVIDIA 174.31 Driver if I want to game?

 

I don't think so. The newest drivers for the T61p worked very well for gaming.
The 174.31 did score higher 3DMark06 benchmarks but for actual gaming quality I was very happy with how the stock drivers ran the Crysis DEMO.

I'm into "tweaking" just about everything. So if you enjoy that kind of stuff and you don't mind the work of trying different drivers then go for it. Also be careful. A simple mistake could cause many problems.

 

hmm this is the best settings for COD4 on t61p ?any suggestion ? how about muiltplayer setting?
I using vista business with 4gb ram

yesterday I follow this settings
hmmm sometime I feel not said very smooth and fast kinda weird feeling sometime quite okie.

I using default lenova drivers I guess cos yesterday just recieved my laptop.

 

hmm I see

so what is the best fix resolutions for games than?

like wc3 , CS source , bf2 and COD4

I only play this games and will play online too

just presently headach trying to tune to fine settings just cannot or seem get it the speed and smoothness I want.both off and online game play

after yesterday I just got my t61p

 

Try running NVIDIA nTune. You can download it from the NVIDIA site.

It may help.

 

Bioshock




Extremely fun and relaxing game IMO.

 

noticed u running xp pro not vista

hmm maybe due to vista ?

next ur driver for tp61p is NVIDIA 174.31 Driver ??

how to install?sorry noob here

or just over write it?

where is the url u download?

vista business OS is consider 32bit?or 64bit?

 

You have a different definition of "relaxing" I see

 

Bioshock is awesome. Not in the least bit relaxing though. It's pretty disturbing actually... The blend of different eras and genres is cool. I love horror set to 1950's(?) music.

 

I got the 174.31 drivers from this site: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

It is by far the the most informative and simple site to learn how to install new video GPU drivers.

You want to make sure you get the drivers that work with your specific notebook and the specific GPU and specific operating system in the notebook.

IMO a critical part of doing the install is effectively uninstalling the stock drivers and deleting all files of them. Anything related "dispaly device". (FX 570m).


Then it is important to delete the registry files related to the drivers.

I use http://ccleaner.com , Driver Sweeper, NVIDIA nTune and Riva tuner to tune the FX 570m.

It's not easy to do but not hard either. Does require time to do. Also it can be hardware endangering if you burn out your GPU.

I wouldn't try to do it if you are not familiar with anything that I have written.

 

More Bioshock.

 

Hey SonDa5,

I noticed you reported getting an average fps of 64 in the Lost Coast video test. As you noted in my review, your 3Dmark06 score trounces mine even though we are running near identical hardware, yet I'm consistently hitting an average fps in the 71-74 range. I'm running it at the full res of 1680x1050, with all the recommended settings... The one difference I notice between our systems is I'm running a 64bit OS, while you are running a 32bit OS, which Lost Coast seems to be able to take advantage of (Lost Coast launches with a little message indicating 64 bit enabled, or something like that; none of the other HL2 games indicate this)

If this is the factor leading to the better fps I'm getting... while than there might be some promise for 64 bit gaming after all!

 

I ran my most recent 3DMark06 best score after some tuning. I'll run the Lost Coast Demo to see if it has improved. Will post results in this thread for you.





Prey

1680x1050, high, 16:10

 

What resolution and video settings did you use for your benchmark? I'm sure this will effect fps scores for the Lost Coast video GPU benchmark.

I don't remember what the settings were on my first Lost Coast video GPU benchmark results that I posted earlier in this thread.





I just ran the Lost Coast Video test and here is the info and score from the test:


Resolution Settings


Advanced Settings



FPS score




Also it very well may be that a 64bit OS will perform better for certain games. I used 3DMark06 to get an idea of how well my GPU can game.


Each game in The Orange Box has different settings. I have each one set up different. What I use for Lost Coast plays very well in actual game play.


Most of the info that I have read online reports that XP is the better gaming OS for the most part.

The main benefit of the 64bit operating system is that it can enable 64bit CPU's to perform better and utilize higher amounts of system RAM. Most applications are not coded to fully benefit 64bit CPUs and 64 bit OS. That seems to be the bottleneck that is holding back the "great perfomance" gains.

 

Even more Bioshock.

 

I was running it at 1680x1050, model detail high, texture detail high, shader detail high, water detail at 'reflect world', shadow detail high, no anti-aliasing, trilinear filtering, and full HDR.

Ahhhh, there you go... 6xAA... that would do it.

Right - that's why I was interested, since they seem to have written a 64 bit version of Lost Coast... too bad they aren't using that code for the HL2 episodes and Portal (mmmm Portal)

 

I'll run another test with your settings, this will help determine how effective 64bit coding in a game is running on 64bit CPUs and 64bit Operating Systems.
I have read that 64bit coding and technology is still immature. So I wouldn't be suprised if my score is close to yours.

 

Keh I adjusted the Lost Coast video settings to to yours.

By turning off the 6xAA my score went down to 54fps.

So it appears that the Lost Coast game does indeed run better on powerful 64bit CPU's and 64bit Operating Systems.


Very nice score you got with your 64bit Operating System.
I'll have to upgrade some day.

 

Prey




Fun "Art Bell UFO" action type of game.

 

Unfortunately 64 bit is still not quite ready for prime time. Driver support, while getting better, is still not all that great. Heck, I just picked up a MS Lifecam for this laptop (the Asus had a built-in cam), and the MS 64 bit drivers seem quite buggy - I mean if MS is getting the drivers right for their own operating system...

 

WOW - I just ran your settings and got 101.25fps. Valve should definitely roll out this 64 bit mode for the rest of their games!

I'm a little perplexed as to why your score would have dropped when you turned off the anti-aliasing. That seems odd to me.... oh, I just tried the same thing, at that same 1280x768 resolution and I got a score of 100 - I guess this isn't really an indication that the performance has decreased, as these "drops" are probably within normal variance levels for different run troughs, and so could just mean that the performance is already maxed out at this resolution.

I see that they are offering Prey for $5 on steam this weekend... I might have to try that out!

 

Hmmm this is odd... my score drops to 89fps when using 2xMSAA, and then down to 77fps at 4xMSAA

I have a suspicion that it is not really doing any anti-aliasing when you set it at 6xMSAA, which is why the score is so close to the "none" setting.

 

Yes, that is correct. It is not really running at 6xMSAA even though you set it in the options. 4xMSAA is the max you can do.

 

my bro might be interested in this laptop as he is doing engineering in uni and likes to play games.

out of curiosity, what is GeForce 9600GT overdrive FX 570m code mod lol

 

Blackbird, see this thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=209796

 

thx...so basically it makes the card think its a 9600gt

 

I think you mean 8600GT right?

 

thats what i think too, but the op stated

GeForce 9600GT overdrive FX 570m code mod

im confused??

 

OP in this thread or the OP here?

 

This is what I am referring to.

 

I see now.

SonDa Can you clarify this? Is it really a 9600GT driver?

 

thx for clearing that out...your just using 174.xx series which is meant for 9 series cards....not some hack to make your card behave as 9600 gt....you made it sound so fancy lol

 

This is one of the first drivers to hit online that was coded for the 9600GT card.


In the last month there has been a huge amount of new NVIDIA drivers online. Most of the new ones are coded to work with the 9600GTm.

 

Well I didn't do it....

But it is fancy to people who don't know how to do this stuff.



All the drivers do is control the behavior of the GPU. All I do is download the drivers. Clear the old ones out. Clean up the .inf files and ensure I have the correct .inf file for my device and install.

It's sounds simple but you have to do it in order and delete all prior drivers and install correct files to get the GPU to work right. It's not that easy. Unless you have an idea of what you are doing.


Not a coder just running the code.

 

One more thing. In the "geForce" conversion thread the thing that makes that hack different than what I am doing is that the FX 570m is no longer recognized as a FX 570m. When you run 3DMARK06 your results appear as a T61p with a 8600m GT GPU.

I don't think the title of the T61p's GPU really matters as far as performance and gaming ability is concerned.

With the 174.31 drivers my T61p is recognized as having a FX 570m GPU with the correct specs associated with the GPU. The performance is just as good for gaming IMO. My best 3DMark06 score was acheived with the 174.31 drivers.

I have read of people having problems with driver installs and IMO it's because the old drivers were not completely removed and or registry trash from old drivers triggers problems.

 

An issue I had when trying to use the custom drivers was that I didn't have the powermizer options anymore and I couldn't set my refresh rates. On the factory driver I can change the refresh rates to 40, 50 and 60. Using slower refresh rates do give you more battery life. The lowest it goes it 15hz and the highest it goes is 150hz

 

SonDa5, can you please tell me how old your laptop is?

 

I just got mine last month Good to go.

 

Hey Sonda5, I had to do a system recovery back to Vista Ultimate 32, as I was getting a lot of BSOD crashes on my system I'm trying to diagnose (my latest theory was the Nvidia drivers that Windows Update dropped on there), and so I took the oppostunity to run Lost Coast to compare against the results I was getting in 64 bit mode... while, my score is now 74.95fps, down from around 100...

Looks like Valve has some great 64 bit code sitting there, showing the potential for 64 bit gaming. Too bad NOBODY seems to care much about 64 bit coding (including MS)

 

Give it some time. 64bit or greater is the way of the future. It will happen. I'm looking forward to it.


Another Prey screen shot. Fun simple game to play.

 

Installed SP3 for XP and the new NVIDIA 175.16 drivers and my score seems to have improved.

With everthing maxed I got about 100 fps.



So much for wishful thinking on the 64bit XP OS.

 

100fps on MAX settings....so nice.

 

All else equal, how much worse would the results be on the crippled 128MB version of the FX570M?