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    T61p WUXGA vs WSXGA+ Pics

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by captain, Oct 7, 2007.

  1. captain

    captain Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello.

    I'm hoping you good folks with a T61p would be kind enough to post some pics of your lovely Lenovo? The intention is to see how the resolution really affects readability and usability. I've been wanting to buy the WUXGA model, but with no option of testing one out first I'm hoping you could all help.

    It's perhaps a bit to ask for, but thank you if you can spare the time. I'm hoping to get people with both the WUXGA and WSXGA+ to upload pics so we can compare how it looks.

    Thanks kindly!
     
  2. MonsterMaxx

    MonsterMaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    Don't waste your time. The wuxga has very poor quality, it's too dim to be seen in anything but a dark room and the resolution is ridiculously small for a 15" screen
     
  3. Amol

    Amol APH! NBR Reviewer

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    For a 15.4" screen, WUXGA would be quite tiny. I suggest for optimal resolution, go with WSXGA. Then again, screen res is very relative - best bet would be to hit up your local reseller like Best Buy or Circuit City and check it out. Hopefully they'll have WUXGA screens on display :p

    Another way to figure out would be to do a dpi calculation and comparison. Heck, go check out random displays and different settings at the store you go to, and come home and do dpi calculations and compare them ;)
     
  4. dimonay

    dimonay Notebook Consultant

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    I feel offended.

    Because I happen to have a WUXGA T61p, and while some screens are brighter it's definitely able to be seen in outdoor conditions.

    And as for the resolution, it's perfect for my purposes, as it provides me with a bigger workspace without having to resort to multi-desktop or multi-monitor solutions.

    Most of my friends comment on how it's tiny, but for me I thought it was perfect.

    Anyways, as for the pictures, what kind of shots did you want?

    EDIT: The T61p DOES come with a magnification feature as well, be it the ultranav function or Fn+Space
     
  5. eugenes

    eugenes Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd have to second dimonay. I also have a WUXGA T61p and the screen works just fine for me.

    I actually find WSXGA+ to be too limiting and does not give enough screen real estate to work efficiently.

    Amol makes a good point. Go take a look at similar notebooks in person. Screen resolution is a personal preference and should only be decided by you.
     
  6. cracker123

    cracker123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yhea some WUXGA come with a good screen, it is your luck.
     
  7. timd75

    timd75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry for the poor quality, it doesn't really do the screen justice, but it does show the font sizes reasonably well.
    I really like the screen, and it works very well for CAD, which is mainly why I bought this laptop. :)
    HTH.

    [​IMG]

    Edit: this is a 15.4" screen, 1920x1200, whatever acronym that makes it. ;)
     
  8. atolbert

    atolbert Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've personally have only physically seen the WSXGA+ T61p, I must say that it looks very nice.

    If you are a software developer, graphics designer, or someone who needs a lot of workspace, the WSXGA+ should be sufficient, but if you have the money, time, and patience I would say that it would be worth getting the WUXGA if you are seriously considering it. If you really want WUXGA and you go with the WSXGA+ because it's cheaper/more readily available, you might experience some of that "Buyer's Remorse" that we all dread.

    The bottom line is that WSXGA+ is not going to be terrible by any means, I guess it all really depends on what you plan on using your T61p for.

    I have the 20" Apple Monitor which sports the WSXGA+ resolution and its enough space for doing my work, however when i'm reading PDF Tech Manuals while using an IDE, it just doesn't cut it, so I would say it's all really up to what you are into and how much you plan to multitask.
     
  9. wilsonywx

    wilsonywx Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you have a T61p with the wuxga? I am asking because you posted elsewhere that you did not get your wuxga T61p order. Even if you are angry with lenovo for whatever happened to your order you can't say it has a bad screen since you don't have the actual laptop. You would also expect things to be small with a wuxga 15.4'' screen.
     
  10. morphy

    morphy Notebook Deity

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    Actually that's quite a decent pic. Monitor pics aren't easy to capture even with a good camera to give a good representation of what they look like in person ( they almost always come out looking a bit worse ) but yours look better than what I thought a 15.4 WUXGA would.

    ps :You can use a few more browser tabs :p
     
  11. atolbert

    atolbert Notebook Enthusiast

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    :D That is a perfect representation of what WUXGA gives you. My laptop screen is 1400x900 and can handle only 8 tabs without truncating. On his screen 8 tabs barely takes up half the screen horizontally.
     
  12. nemt

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    I checked out the T61p configurator today and noticed they don't seem to be offering the WUXGA display anymore.
     
  13. irfrausto

    irfrausto Notebook Guru

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    Nope. I just placed an order for a T61p with a WSXGA+ screen. I'm sure it will be enough for my needs, but the WUXGA would have been nice too.
     
  14. atolbert

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    They were offering it last week, but not the week before that. As said other times before here, the WUXGA may not be available at the site, but you can call in and configure a t61p over the phone with it by dialing 1-866-96-THINK. This will delay your order a bit, but it might be worth the wait for you.
     
  15. timd75

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    ;) I like my tabs. :D
     
  16. MonsterMaxx

    MonsterMaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    sigh....again with the attempts to change the FACTS by the desperate and blind faithful.

    Summery:
    YES, I did receive a T61P DEFECTIVE after waiting many months and hearing numerous conflicting lies from customer service.
    Severe light leakage and very dim.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10145&d=1188928170
    Reported to Lenovo who stated that it was within their quality specs. They did say that they would inspect it under the terms of the next day service warranty.
    7 days later they finally picked it up (their carrier, label and schedule.)
    2 more days (9 days after reporting that warranty repair was needed) later I get an email stating that it's been damaged in transit and that Lenovo would require ME to pay for the repairs.
    I believe this was a scam to cover up the fact that they did not have any screens to perform the the replacement of defective parts that were used to build my notebook.
    Needless to say I refused to pay more money to correct Lenovo's errors on a machine I'd already paid top dollar for.
    Their unethical behavior in trying to scam me out of more money as well as numerous lies from Lenovo's staff landed them in a dispute over this with the credit company.
    They wasted 4+ months of my time.

    I told Tony Bumarch (top of the food chain at Lenovo's CS) that if they did not correct their errors I'd tell everyone about what they did. He told me to go right ahead he didn't care.
     
  17. morphy

    morphy Notebook Deity

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    Hey Monstermaxx you went with the WUXGA screen when you ordered the thinkpad. You claimed it was defective - ok so you went with the 8510W.

    It was apparent your original choice was the WUXGA, so if the panel on the thinkpad was DEFECTIVE, why did you change and go with the WSXGA+ on the 8510w ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2510604#post2510604) ? The 8510W comes in WUXGA too.
    Or were you worried that you might get a 'defective' WUXGA panel on the HP too?

    This is a classic example of a customer not doing his homework which is fine since alot of us have been known to do before...myself included. But MM takes zero responsibilty for making an ill informed decision placing all the blame entirely on a DEFECTIVE screen and subsequently on Lenovo. Which again is fine but then he comes off like a broken record to the point that he's become a farce on the forums and noone takes him seriously anymore.

    The term defective implies a non working unit. You should know that 15.4 WUXGA screens are dimmer than other 15.4 panels - the specs state so. There's no way around that until they improve the engineering. It's been quite well documented that WUXGA panels from May/June/July were dimmer and suffers from light leakage. The new current batch might be different I have no idea but from what scant reports there are they dont seem to be as bad as the intial batch. Personally I was not willing to take that risk which is why I went with WSXGA+ on mine.
     
  18. MonsterMaxx

    MonsterMaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    Look, you need to stop trying to shift the blame.
    I'd have been perfectly happy if the WUXGA that Lenovo chose hadn't been defective.
    If they had honored their warranty and replaced the defective screen I'd have been happy.

    They didn't. Instead they 'claim' it was damaged in transit and that I had to pay to get it repaired.

    This is not a "classic example of a customer..." anything
    This IS a case of an unethical company with low quality standards attempting to screw a customer out of something they paid for.

    I paid a top of the line price for what was supposed to be a top of the line product. Not a piece of junk that's defective and wouldn't be acceptable to anyone.

    Much less have to pay for warranty repairs when the machine arrived DEFECTIVE.

    If as you say that Lenovo knew the WUXGA has known problems why would they ship them to customers? and why once defective screens got into users hands would Lenovo pull a shady trick to get out of warrantying it.
    Unethical. That's why.

    Nice try to morph the cause of the problem away from an unethical company you are clearly blindly in love with.


    My choice of the particular model of 8510w was based on availability (I'd had no laptop for over 4 months due to this fiasco with Lenovo), price and performance.
    It was in stock, the right price and is plenty fast enough.

    Far as I'm concerned the hp is a much better machine than the Lenovo and has better customer support and outperfornms a more expensive T61p which had a faster processor. On every benchmark the 2ghz HP BEAT the 2.4ghz Lenovo.
     
  19. eyecon82

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    give your anti lenovo campaign a rest already..this is getting ridiculous
     
  20. chinchaz

    chinchaz Newbie

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    My question is when will i get my WUXGA? Can anyone answer that question?
     
  21. atolbert

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    I would say you are going to have to wait at least 1 month, upwards of 2. like MM has said, WUXGA is going to be dimmer and of less quality than the WSXGA+, but if you are really in a bind for higher res it's worth the wait.
     
  22. Ackeron

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    I have WUXGA and I love. The screen really doesn't need to be any brighter than this and I have a Samsung.
     
  24. irfrausto

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    Its WUXGA ( one on the left in the screen comparison shot, if you look at the shot with the 24" monitor the caption indicates that they're both 1920x1200 hence wuxga ), the other looks like SXGA. His wuxga looks pretty bright to me in that shot compared to the 4:3.
     
  26. dimonay

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    Oh haha sorry those aren't my pictures. They're from another NBR member, the first guy to get the T61p actually, waaaaaaay back in like, July. I'm not sure what the resolution of the T43 is, sadly.
     
  28. sakogti

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    MonsterMaxxx you do not have 1 valid point. Not even 1.. Actually your manipulated photos are probably all you have on Lenovo LOL!!! I love how they have exploited the fact that you can use your camera to make any LCD screen look like its leaking like crazy. Enjoy your HP!
     
  29. wuzertheloser

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    True, lenovo's are expensive and are supposed to be top of the line, but haven't you noticed that they have also gone down in price the past few years? Obviously, they had to make some cutbacks here and there but overall still produced a GREAT machine.

    And sorry to hear that your laptop was not up to your standards. But I wouldn't go so far to say that it was defective, because it was working right? It's not defective, but not up to par with the quality you expected for what you paid.

    Lenovo shipped out the WUXGA screens because that was all they had at the time. Did you expect them to make their own superior LCD panel? Of course not. They just offered what they had in stock, even though it did take forever to put together the machines.
     
  30. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Stop with the thread necromancy omg...

    Also one of the WUXGA screens (Samsung? I forget) does indeed have absolutely abysmal bleed along the length of the bottom. I've seen it first hand. Regardless...why bring this up again? :\ Ok no don't answer! :p
     
  31. wuzertheloser

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    haha, i'll agree with ackeron, time to stop arguing back and forth. i do agree that the bleeding is horrible but i don't think lenovo had anything to do with it.