T61p coming tomorrow

I think the T61p will be available tomorrow.
I just found it for the first time on several lenovo websites in Europe...

 

any proof?

 

There is a huge difference between saying "T61p coming tomorrow" and "I think the T61p will be available tomorrow". Please fix this discrepancy.

 

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/de/products.nsf/Products?openagent&brand=Thinkpad&series=ThinkPad+T+Series

 

I vote to make this thread sticky!

 

2300 Euros???

no thanks.. I'll pass

 

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Yeah! But this time there is at least a slight chance it's really true.
Central Europe is 6 hours ahead in time, so I suppose the websites were just updated at midnight...

 

thats the one, that has been around for a while. but its the first time i see it on the german site.

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36Xxx?OpenDocument
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/de/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36XGE?OpenDocument

 

lol maybe they plated 24k gold.

 

It has been on the two European websites sw00p listed so I don't see a reason why one more site would make a difference unless it's a site where you can actually buy it. I'll be optimistic and hope for tomorrow though.

2,340.00 EUR

=

3,150.15 USD

Yikes. Hopefully it'll be cheaper in the US. That is a loaded version though. I imagine you could get it down a little by not choosing that WUXGA screen and putting in your own RAM+HDD.

I configured a T60p for 1,594.00 with WSXGA+ and lowest RAM/HDD. That's pretty good for a mobile workstation/gaming machine. I spent 2000 or so on my current gaming laptop so 1600 + 250~300 for RAM+HDD = 1800 for a T61p would be sweet. That is assuming the T60p and T61p are similar in price.

At the very least new dells are coming out tomorrow to check out .

 

The dutch website was also updated...

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nl/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36XNH?OpenDocument

 

Any news on the Nvidia 140m in the 15" on any of those websites? I'd have a really hard time choosing if the T61p came out and the 140M 15" didn't. I hope they don't pull something like that.

Are you sure these were recent updates? It may have been there for a couple of weeks.

 

Yes, in fact there is:


ThinkPad T61
NH36TND


Compare

2.058,70 €
1.730,00 €
Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate
Intel® Core 2 Duo T7100 1.80GHz 2MB
1GB/ 4GB/PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
120GB (Serial ATA)
15.4''
1280x800WXGA TFT
nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
2.5Kg ThinkPad UltraNav
--
DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)
-- Integrated Intel PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
USMODEMV.90&K56FLEX (no voice),ThinkCentre 56Kbps PCI v.90
Intel 3945 a/b/g
Client Security Solution


And yes, I'm rel. sure these are recent updates.
Happy dreams tonight...

 

Yeah, that price is insane. It's way more expensive than the new MacBook Pro, which has similar specs.

I imagine that the german website has some euro or deutschland specific taxes already figured in. No way the T61p is selling any units for over $3k in the US.

 

The European prices are ALWAYS much higher.

 

Isn't it weird that on the European site it's listed but you can't buy it? What's up with that?

 

Lenovo's european prices (with 3 year warranty and without taxes) are almost the same as the US ones in raw number.
So if a Lenovo laptop costs $1000 in the US, the same laptop will cost here 1000 EUR.
That's 34% higher prices!!!

This T61p costs 2341 EUR so you will most likey get it in the US for about $2300

 

Europe is few hours ahead of us.

 

No way, Jose.
It'll be under two grand.

 

I doubt it will cost less than $2K, as I just configured a T60p with the same specs (remember 3 year warranty in Europe) for $2150(15.4 WS) or $2400(15 flexview).

 

Any bets as to how long it takes for eskimochaos to cancel his current order and re-book a T61p?



Sorry, I'm just jealous...

 

if it's what it should be, it'll price out to right around 2700, which is how much the t60p priced out to fully loaded.

 

I can't read german, so I don't understand a single thing what the info said

And there was not a single thing that had to do about the T61P

 

This is why you should upgrade the RAM and HDD yourself.

I just made one for 1624.00 with the lowest RAM, HDD, and OS. I also just bought 2GB of DDR2-667 G.Skill RAM for $70 and a 120GB 7200RPM for 120. If you do it that way it comes out to ~1824. Otherwise I get 2028.00 which is 200 more than you'd pay if you upgrade if you upgraded the RAM yourself. It also makes more sense because the RAM has a lifetime warranty and the HDD has a 5 year warranty which is longer than the 1 year I think it comes with by default.

I also don't think the warranties are a very good idea. If you think about it, assume you're me and you bought RAM and HDD separately. You also didn't get any sort of improved warranty on it. This means you save 400 over buying the HDD+RAM and warranty from lenovo if you buy the 3 year on site warranty. So now instead of paying that 400 you have it in case your laptop ever does die. Say your motherboard goes out. That certainly isn't going to cost you 400 to pay Lenovo to replace. It will likely take 200. Then if something else goes out you have 200 left. It also isn't constrained by the warranty period. The longer it takes for the laptop to act up the more interest that 400 will make sitting in the bank. And seriously what goes wrong on a laptop in 3 years that wasn't detected in 1 (the base warranty)? There was a person on here that said their screen developed a bright line way after the warranty expired. Had they kept the money instead of buying the warranty they could either put it toward a new laptop or buy a new screen. On the other hand if something like your power supply shorts taking out the entire system after 2 years then you're at a disadvantage. This isn't nearly as bad though because the price of your laptop and the components will have a depreciated heavily in that time. This could allow you to replace almost all the internals for a fraction of the original price. That's worst case scenario. For instance in 2 years my laptop's value has dropped from 2000 to around 400. On top of that it's rare since it would likely happen in a year anyway. If you look at the risk/reward ratio I think buying the HDD + RAM and getting the lowest warranty is the best way to go.

 

Where did you get the drive?

 

Zipzoomfly. $115 for 120GB Seagate Momentus 7200.2.

 

That part you're wrong about. If you have Lenovo replace the motherboard, you're looking at a minimum of $200 in labor alone. They'll charge you $300-$400 for the motherboard itself.
If you do it yourself (which is do-able, but not easy), you should be able to find a motherboard online for $100-$200 no problem. But if you have to replace the CPU as well, you're looking at another $100-$200 (laptop CPUs typically cost more).

I don't usually recommend that people do or don't get those service plans. It's up to them to decide if it's worth it to them. Some people wouldn't know how to swap a hard drive if you drew a diagram for them (I've tried, really). Someone I spoke to once didn't realize that their laptop had a tab for pulling out the hard drive and they tried taking the whole thing apart and it didn't end well.

I wouldn't pay for one of those plans myself, but I might get my parents to pay for one for me. The only one that's worth it to me is the one that protects against accidents. Broken LCDs HURT your wallet.. and spills that damage the keyboard, motherboard, cpu, dvd-rom, and hard drive hurt even more.

 

midnight is here and gone.

time to bed, and blow off t61p til july at least.

 

Thanks I didn't know that. Say you're right and your motherboard goes out. You can get the same model for likely very close to 400. I was looking at ebay and excellent condition T42 (2 years ago I think) laptops were going for under 600. You can sell the non-fuctional one for parts and make up the difference.

I don't want to imply that there aren't good reasons for buying a warranty. If you have the money and need an extra level of service than go for it. Could also be useful for smaller IT departments. *Shrug* but I think a lot of people are in the same boat as me and I think for someone who doesn't mind putting in a little extra effort it's more than worth it.

 

I wouldn't bet too much on midnight. I think stallen once looked up the release time for the initial T61 release and it was at 6 or 8 (I forget) CST. Since it's only 3 CST now I'd give it a couple more hours before I pass judgement. The new dells arrived early. They look absolutely hideous.

 

I want my t61p NOW..!

 

from 'a lenovo sales rep'

"Initially we were told that the T61p would be launching on the 26th of June but I found out yesterday it has been pushed back until July 10th (with no further delays). Would you like me to cancel this order and help with the T61p?"

so, relax guys.

OTOH my T61 shipped two days ago, I should get it in a couple of days. I am done waiting for the 'mythical' T61P. I am sure T61P is a great machine, but I will take one that is available today than waiting for ever for a dream machine to be released.

 

All of this and I don't even want to T61p just dedicated graphics in the 15". Oy. I sound like a broken record to myself I've been saying it for at least half a month now. I wish lenovo would just deliver so I could shut up.

 

This model on German Website:
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nl/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36XNH?OpenDocument

is the same as this model on Europe Website:
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36Xxx?OpenDocument

I suposse lenovo just put a "p" in the model name recently, because these exact models were in Europe Website since 5/6 June.

BTW, will be released any model with 256 GraphicsRAM ?

 

Those two quotes pretty much reflect my own recent thinking on the subject. Whether or not to get an extended warranty and also what kind of warranty to get varies by situation. I do know people who would find themselves up sh!t creek without a paddle even if they had so much as to change RAM or a hard drive on their laptop.

However, I'm strongly leaning towards getting minimal warranty coverage with my next laptop. I'll deal with whatever comes my way when it comes. In the past 9 years, I had only one major repair on my laptops: a motherboard replacement. I would have been able to do it myself if I had to but it was under warranty. Every other repairs I've actually done myself: Dell just shipped me the replacement parts.

 

I'm gonna get the base warranty and purchase with an AMEX card and get free +1yr extended warranty (2yrs total).

 

Yep, that's also what I'm gonna do with my Visa. (Why Visa? Long story short: AMEX does not fit my wife's and my needs.)

But to address the larger issue of what to recommend to whom, for Joe User who can't change a hard disk I would not suggest to get the credit card warranty *instead of* an extended warranty from the manufacturer. Credit card companies can reject claims. Here's a case at Consumerist with Apple and Visa declining a warranty claim on a MacBook. In the end, Apple honored the warranty but the poor guy had to go through a lot of hurdles to get it. One interesting thing for me though was the fact that Visa used Apple's initial diagnosis to reject the customer's claim he made under the extended warranty provisions of his credit card. Basically, because Apple claimed the user abused the machine, Visa said they would not accept the warranty claim.

 

V200??!?!

What crap!!

Who cares about the V200?

Roll the stupid thing out!

 

At this time I'd like to point out that the T61p was NOT released today .

 

You're right - shoot!
Maybe in 2 weeks than - I have been waiting since 05/09...

 

Interesting: I just found that the entries describing the T61p and T61 15'' with discrete graphics have been removed again from the websites I cited yesterday, i.e. there were visible there for only a few hours.

Maybe lenovo is indeed monitoring this forum and found+corrected a mistake?


http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nl/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_NH36XNH

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/de/products.nsf/Products?openagent&brand=Thinkpad&series=ThinkPad+T+Series

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/europe/produ...agent&brand=Thinkpad&series=ThinkPad+T+Series


Anyway, this finding still doesn't help anyone to get their T61p any faster, I guess...

 

haha i couldn't take thsi anymore. and i've come to the delayed conclusion that lenovo sucks. Big Time. so t60p it was, and its getting here today. More than enough for the CADing i need to do. Plus, i like laptops that aren't made from the same factory as the toy trucks i played with as a kid.

 

It doesn't make any sense to get a T60p right now. The NVS 140M shows to be about as powerful. I'd save your money and get a dell or a 14.1" T61.

 

well i need it to do moderate CADing and the 140M isn't going to cut it. Maybe playing games and such. ifnact i wouldn't be suprised if the 140M is better at playing games and such than the 5250, but for CAD i'm pretty sure the 5250 is still better than the 140M. I was waiting for the FX570M which would be twice as powerful of a CAD card but... that seems to be in mystical Lenovo land right now

 

Me too. .....maybe I should turn to a MBP?......lenovo's productivity sucks a lot.....

 

If you're thinking about a MBP why not just get an ASUS G1S? It costs less, has two mouse buttons, and has better driver support under vista and xp.

 

Wed, 6-27-2007 update: I just got off the phone with Paul at Lenovo--an American with perfect English--and he said.... they have not been given any information about when the T61p will be released

 

Sounds like we should give him some information

 

That sounds exactly like what we've been hearing for a month now lol.

 

Probably Eskimochaos would agree with me, that this can only mean it will be released tomorrow!!!