The Lenovo Y500 sucks thread!

Pretty sure I was the one. I assure you it's not bull either. 4.5 hours is more accurate though, after having it for an extensive amount of time. It's called battery saving mode. Also helps to have throttlestop enabled to lock the cpu at its lowest state, consuming minimal power. With moderate web browsing and other apps, you'll definitely get over 4 hours. Keep in mind that's also with the 650m installed, running at lower voltages. Overvolting mine to 1.1v (constant, apparently) has definitely pinched my battery life a bit, lol.

 

y500 looks bad

 

Do any of the participants (negative..) have anything else better to do than bag on this? I don't think this thread belongs in here and should be moved elsewhere

 

Maybe you should GTFO? This thread's been around here longer than you have and as long as Lenovo keeps shipping a broken product it's gonna continue to be a place for people to vent and voice legitimate complaints.

Your apparently positive experience with the laptop means nothing to the large number of us who have experienced problems or unfulfilled expectations. You can continue spreading the message about how awesome this laptop is (for you) but it's not gonna convince someone like me who has already gone through two defective units. Your one good experience does not speak for the rest of us.

If an interested buyer were to ask my about this laptop, it would be disingenuous of me not to mention its less-than-stellar track record and potential for numerous issues. I actually wish I had done some more research on these forums before initially pulling the trigger as I am past the return period and the most I can do now is get replacements.

 

Sounds like a lot of bad luck, sorry for that. I work for a local major retailer and our return & repairment rate for Y500 is 1,17%, which i quite good compared to maaany more others.

 

You mean 1.17% right? That is a great statistics!

 

Not every country uses "." as a decimal symbol. Most places actually use "," as a decimal symbol, and use "." as a divider between a tuple of digits. For example, 1.000.000 is one million.

 

Intriguing! This is good to know.

 

It sounds like you are just mad that you continually break my laptop. I received two laptops sincere friend bought one too and both work completely fine.. Does it matter a thread has been around longer than me? So a 1980 car has more meaning than me? Your reasoning is terrible and all I am trying to say is just because some of you people have a defective laptop (which is bound to happen..) doesn't mean it is a bad laptop.. I don't know if you know but people who are emotionally driven (broken laptop would cause emotion) will draw in more responses than a normally functioning laptop

 

Chill guys.

I have finally managed to break the 700 points record in Uningine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark.

701 points @ 1257 (+199MHz from 1058MHz) MHz core clock; 2795MHz (+295MHz from 2500MHz) VRAM clock. Max temp reached 88C on both GPU. Average about 82C.

Settings are maxed out except AA. 1920 x 1063 2x AA windowed mode. For some reason the latest Nvid driver screws up exclusive fullscreen. I am running 320.18, and I also have a 240W ac adapter.

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This Y500 does have its fair share of problems. But if you know overclocking well, you will be able to squeeze a lot out of it. Mind you, my ASIC quality is only 74.2% for slave GPU and 67.5% for master GPU. OC'ing is a fine balancing act of power, heat, clock speed, and stability. Once you master all of them, you become a Master Clocker!

I have two profiles for both GPU n CPU for gaming, depending if the game is CPU heavy or GPU heavy. If it's CPU heavy, I let the CPU boost to 3.2GHz, but I have a lower OC on the GPU, and vice verse.

I welcome anyone who has the Lenovo Y500 to try and break my record on Uningine :hi2:

 

Lol see this is what we should be arguing and discussing about, not stupid remarks about a laptop that has some problems. If you have problems with the laptop, cool! The laptop obviously wasn't for you, no biggie. But for the others out there that actually have no problems and love there laptop then also cool! Good for them, no one gives two sh!@s about your problems, just leave it to yourself and go get a laptop that is suited to your liking.

Also to kh90123, your on! Well... at least when I get mine soon lol.

 

Teach me your ways

 

You're welcome to beat the record. I have another heatpipe for the main heatsink to keep the temp down.

I'll be happy if anyone can break it and teach me their ways. Highest I have had so far is 705. With core running at 1258MHz. Anything higher than that seems unstable. Well the heat starts to become an issue. I'll need better binned chips.

It's about regression. Also sometimes it's not about max OC. A lot of times it's about luck. But maybe most of all it's about patience and experience, and being conservative when you should, and push it hard when you should.

It's the way of the Jedi


And for everyone's information, I believe Lenovo has cut cost on where they shouldn't. But then most users won't even notice it unless they are power users like us. The ASIC quality of the GPU isn't that good, which means Lenovo has probably got them cheaper from Nvidia. Thinking about it, chips that are not cherry and are off the Gaussian distribution in terms of leakage (and other specs), are not thrown away. They are usually rebranded as slower GPU chips. Or sold cheap to some OEMs. The desktop Gigabyte GTX670 that I have was a specially binned cherry GPU, it was so good that with a flashed BIOS I could reach 1370MHz on the core.

Now I know GPU-Z's ASIC quality isn't exactly accurate, but from overclocking it, it should tell you some inkling about the quality of the chips.

And I don't think my CPU is that well binned too. I know that Ivybridge runs hot but from playing with the Y500 for these few weeks, the CPU just feels like it has higher leakage than it should have.

 

Get back to me on that when you've gone through the same negative experiences time after time with this machine as I have. This is the Lenovo Y500 sucks thread not the Lenovo Y500 defenders/apologists show-off-your-benchmarks thread. Read the title. People come here to vent and make valid criticisms and I've got every right to criticize. Your opinion isn't all that matters so stop acting so entitled. If you don't like it, you can leave.

 

If you cried anymore you'd be in a drama as an actress. World doesn't revolve around you

 

OK, all of you just step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. This is just a notebook, not life or death, and civility is required here.

And, no, I don't care who started it.

 

Goto hp forums acer forum, etc and everybody thinks they have the worst gaming notebook. There's no perfect notebook (especially in this price range). So I've come to the conclusion that people expect $2000+ quality from a -$1000 notebook. I'm a y470p and y500 notebook owner and for the price point I can afford to look past these shortcomings. Could be worse, you could own an acer-3830tg like my ol' lady does an that thing is a quirky bugger. heat issues, manual have to re-enable bluetooth every reboot, sub-par gaming performance than the y470p (y470p was out the same time and was cheaper an includes an optical drive). If you want perfection go buy a high end sager, or alienware. For size and price enjoy it or return it and go elsewhere.

 

Because HP has always been a budget brand. Lenovo is expensive compared to them but way lower quality. Thats why they have $500 off. TO see off their and go back to making better expensive units.

 

HP, like pretty much all OEM's, makes some pretty high-end stuff too so I wouldn't call it a budget brand. The only laptop brand I might apply that moniker to is Acer but recently they have turned that around with products like the Aspire S7 Ultrabook. I do feel that HP's closest competitor the to the Y500 in terms of price and performance, the Envy dv6t Quad Edition, has higher build quality and tighter tolerances than the Y500. I've used a bunch of the latest dv6t machines as well as having owned two Y500's and the Y500 definitely has a flimsier display and more visible gaps at the seams. The dv6t does cost more for the same level of components though. Customer service is what I hate most about HP and Lenovo is way better in that regard, but that's not saying too much. As far as Lenovo is concerned their ThinkPad line are better-built than IdeaPad.

 

HP's customer support really does suck.

i called them regarding my dead battery and all they wanted to do is charge me 99.99 to talk to a person that can troubleshoot me.

i did my own troubleshooting and ran battery tests and bought a new battery for 35 bucks.

 

The counter part for a dv6t will probably be the y580. Considering the price tag on y500, it is natural that they are cutting corners.

 

You can't just generalize a brand and believe all their laptops are horrible simply because you have a bad experience with one or two or their products. Like what octiceps was getting at, some OEMs product both customer-class laptops and business-class laptops, and the business-class units and service are miles above what you'd get with a consumer-class product. A Thinkpad is built much better than an Ideapad, and comes with much better warranty options as well. Likewise, don't expect stellar device and build quality with a Pavilion or even an Envy; if you want that you need to look at their Elitebook line (and probably Probook as well). Same idea with Dell's Insprions and XPS systems when compared with their Latitude and Precision lines.

 

Hey, same thing happened to me too! A few years ago, I called them regarding an HP Pavilion desktop whose support period had recently expired because I wanted to know whether the motherboard supported dual-channel RAM. The Indian lady on the other end (sorry, no offense to Indian people, I love Indian people but that's a common stereotype of these customer service agents) refused to give me the info and tried to sell me extended support for $100. When I declined she then tried to sell me a new computer. Needless to say I got really pissed off and hung up. I later used CPU-Z to look up the motherboard model and Googled the information I needed in about a minute.

 

not sure if the HP dv6t quad edition is in superior build quality.

mine came with 2 loose screws. called HP customer support and he literally told me to use my vacuum and try and suck out the screws. i just hanged up on them and open the laptop myself and picked out the screws myself.

 

Sounds like a fluke. That laptop should've never made it off the assembly line and passed quality control. Those instances are usually rare and since they are outliers I don't factor them into the general build quality of so-and-so laptop.

The reason I feel the dv6t has better build quality is that I have played around with a lot of them in big box stores, where demo units are readily available, which is not the case for the Y500.

The fit, finish, and overall construction on the dv6t is tighter. My current Y500 has some pretty wide gaps along the edges of the display cover and all the way around the palmrest area. The gaps are wide enough that dust and crumbs get lodged in them and I can see the plastic underneath showing through. My first Y500, which was returned, had tighter tolerances and didn't have these gaps so it looks like consistency isn't great either.

Also the screen assembly on the HP is sturdier. The Y500 display cover warps with less force than that of the dv6t.

The dv6t has a touchpad with dedicated left and right buttons so it doesn't suffer from the same twitchy cursor and significant flex at the bottom corners that the Y500 clickpad has.

The HP uses more metal. The sides are metal instead of plastic like on the Lenovo.

So yeah, those are the reasons I feel that the dv6t has better build quality than the Y500. I demoed the HP a lot before purchasing the Lenovo and even though I wasn't able to try out the Y500 before buying I pretty much already knew that the HP would beat it in build but not in performance and price and those last two factors ultimately swayed me.

 

y500 temperature ?

 

Damnit, was about to buy the Ideapad Y500 cause it's not that thick and after customising it was only 1400$. but now after reading this loads of hate.. I'm doubting my choice

 

only $1400?

 

For the specs it has, I'm happily willing to pay $1400

 

Here's a tip. Any laptop you ever buy will have internet forums full of people complaining.

If you want proof of this, go into any / every sub-forum on NotebookReview for different laptop models. And I promise you that somewhere on page 1 of every single one of those forums, you'll find a thread talking about "XYZ laptop sucks" or "XYZ laptop has problems".

The trick is finding a laptop where the problems don't bother you. In the case of the Lenovo Y500, the biggest complaints are with the trackpad and the relatively weak battery life; these are both features of laptops that apply the most to people looking for portable machines. If you intend to use your Lenovo Y500 primarily on a desk near a power outlet using an external mouse, those negatives don't affect you. If you plan on being highly mobile with your laptop, and specifically intend to use the trackpad and battery of the Lenovo Y500, then you'd probably do right by looking at a different laptop.

 

Nope, try panny

Though 1400 for y500 seem abit on the expensive side, would expect like 256+ssd or cpu upgrade to justify that.

 

You can complaint to http://www.ftc.gov/. Lets make lenovo pay for what they did to us