The hypothetical T430s - Who's getting one?

I have no clue why Thinkpads still provide touchpad, which is sub-par on top of it. Their signature trackpoints work much better in my opinion, and they could even use that in their advantage to make a bigger keyboard.

That Samsung you reviewed looks really amazing. It's just pretty pricey. I am wondering how will T430u compare. BTW, what's the difference between T430u and T430s?

 

I cannot use a laptop without a trackpoint, so I'm pretty much locked into Thinkpads at this point as the other trackpoint knockoff offerings from Dell and HP are subpar

 

+1 for the ThinkPad trackpoint. I always find the stick very useful and productive.

 

I use the touchpad in addition to the trackpoint. It's good to provide options to people, though the drivers are not that great for the touchpad.

Though... I prefer a wireless mouse over the trackpoint or the trackpad any day.

 

I'm thinking discrete graphics and DVD-ROM separate the T430s from the T430u. There may be others more subtle differences as well.

 

The T430u will feature discrete graphics. No, the differences are quite small: the T430s is not an ultrabook, while the T430u fits within Intel's definition of one.

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

I should have known that... I read it a number of times... Seems the DVD-ROM is the line in the sand.

 

*blushes*

 

It's another checkbox on a feature list. A lot of people won't think of getting a laptop without a touchpad; IBM started offering it for this reason, and Lenovo's kept that practice for (likely) the same.

 

Thank god Apple didn't have that mentality otherwise we would be stuck with crappy touchpads from everyone.

Just goes to show how messed up IBM and Lenovo are.

 

Well it's not the stick, for me it's more the cap that makes it great! You can also choose between different caps (they are something like $1-$2 on eBay). Plus it's great for guys to practice using it, since unlike women they might not get to... khm... use ... khm.... something similar that often.

Hm yeah. I suppose I was in doubt before I tried the trackpoint myself. Maybe the touchpad is a bait to get people into using trackpoints.

 

Any guesses on how much this might cost? How much was the T420s when that was released?

 

Hard to say. Sometimes with the X220 for example, it was inexpensive when first released, but then mostly went up in price, though there were a few times when it dropped again. I think the T420s was more relatively more expensive when released, but has went down in price over time.

 

Huh? I'm confused as to what Apple has to do with this.

What I heard (admittedly, not directly from the PCD) was that the touchpad was first introduced because a couple of major customers (federal and finance -- two big markets for IBM at the time) were starting to require them. Sorta like how Windows NT had a POSIX "implementation"; it might not be the best (or, in the case of NT, at all usable...), but if it's what you need to meet the specs of the contract then it's what you ship.

I'm a pretty poor judge of pointing device issues though. I've been using a TrackPoint since before I could touch type, and a good chunk of my day is spent working with a keyboard only... so while I'm partial to the TrackPoint I really don't care too much about the quality of the pointing device provided that it's at least marginally functional.

 

Lets not get confused about terminology. Touchpads, trackpads, clickpads, trackpoints. Apple has clickpads, a touchpad with integrated buttons that click downwards.

 

Apple has the most highly regarded trackpad in the industry. If they had the same attitude as IBM and Lenovo, they wouldn't.

 

Or if they had the same patents.

 

Ok so just to revive this thread, since the other one is generic about all the new x30 series, it seems that we already have the page updated for the T430s
ThinkPad T430s - hard-working, rock-solid business laptop from Lenovo (US)

Well it seems it can accept up to 16GB of RAM, 500GB of HDD (better than 320GB, could this mean that we are not limited to 7mm height anymore?), Nvidia 5200M with 1GB RAM

 

Well, this thread needs to be locked because it is no longer hypothetical.

To answer your question, Hitachi makes a 7mm 500GB HDD and Samsung makes the 7mm Series 830 256GB SSD.