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    The last IBM Thinkpad

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by hendra, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. hendra

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    What was the last model of IBM Thinkpad that was entirely made by IBM?
    When IBM still made a PC, are their qualities much better than their competitors?
     
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    Not quite correct. The ThinkPad T60 came out in early 2006, not even a year after the Lenovo take-over. The T60 was a complete redesign, such a product is not made in a few months. Its design was mostly done by IBM. Models like the T61 or T400/T500 were mostly based on the basic design of the T60, so you can argue that they too have been partially made by IBM. Those models really mark the transition-phase.

    The first ThinkPad that was completely 100 % Lenovo made was the ThinkPad X301.
     
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    The T60 has IBM Thinkpad branding
    [​IMG] As shown the colorful IBM logo
     
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    The branding is only marketing though.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    This is incorrect, T4x/X4x/R5x were still IBM designs.T6x/R6x/X6x forward were lenovo design, with early examples still being IBM branded.

    The latest and greatest IBM-designed machine at that point would be the T43p

    As an aside, Lenovo made competent thinkpads up through 2011, mainly because they had been recycling IBM's design for so long. When they changed the keyboard layout, removed thinklight, etc, I wrote Thinkpads off as a dead brand.
     
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    OK
     
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    The P5x/P7x laptops are built solidly; I would certainly not describe it as anything less than (highly) competent.
     
    rlk, Jun 12, 2019
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    My personal laptop is a P70 and my work laptop is a P50, and I haven't had problems of that general type (running Fedora 27-30 on the P50). A lot of other engineers here also have P50's, mostly running Fedora, and I haven't heard a lot of complaints either.
     
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    My P51 motherboard has been changed twice and the screen once in the past 18 months. Really garbage laptop
     
    chukwe, Jun 26, 2019
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    My personal P70 and work P50 have been fine.

    My P70 was a factory refurb. It did admittedly have a data corruption error with the first motherboard that was not very easy to reproduce (it wasn't too hard to reproduce under Linux under a heavy I/O load, but it was very difficult to reproduce on Windows, because I had difficulty generating enough I/O load). Since it was replaced under warranty, no difficulty for the past 20+ months. My P50 has been trouble-free since I got that (18 months ago).
     
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    My ThinkPad P51 is almost two years old now and I never had any problems with it.
     
    ibmthink, Jun 27, 2019
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