The next t410s?

I think I'm a wait things out, when do you think the next t410s, with... I think Sandy Bridge come out?

Is it worth waiting I don't need another laptop for at least a year or two, but I want one

 

if you don't need another laptop for a year or two, then why not wait and see what comes out in the future.

 

Probably will be announced January at CES. Then you'd have to wait at least a month for the machine to be available to buy. Sandy Bridge should have a sizable performance increase (probably 20-30% faster depending on the application) but the integrated GPU should be where the most improvement will be found.

 

If I get this right nahalem was 20-30% faster than montevina and sandybridge is faster than nahalem by 20-30% that's like 40-60% faster than the processor I have now I can't wait now.

 

Maybe. Depends on the application. Single threaded applications only get 10% or so better performance between generations, barely a difference to be noticed. But applications that are heavily multi-threaded see much larger jumps, up to 40% better performance (assuming you're comparing dual core to dual core, I think if you had quad core vs dual core then multithreaded apps would be better by 2x). Though I would say that you're going to see a much larger performance enhancement with an SSD instead of a hard drive, hard drives are the slowest components in any computer. Most people find that a system with a slower processor and a SSD are faster than a system with a faster processor and a HD.

 

If you're just doing basic business tasks such as internet surfing or Word/Excel, you won't notice a difference in performance. Battery life is questionable as many users noted higher power consumption from the C2Ds to Ci5s. So what do you plan on using your computer for?

 

I do everything from surfing to, probably Autocad next semester. I heard Autocad was GPU dependent. Will sandy-bridge with the new integrated GPU be able to handle Autocad?

 

it depends what sort of stuffs you are doing with autocad. If you want to do some complex AutoCAD, then you would need a W510 or W70x machines.

The T410s with the nvidia GPU should be okay for simple AutoCAD work.

 

If the T420s (or whatever the T410s's successor is) has the same form factor without the design flaw leading to palmrest cracks, then count me in.

 

Thanks for the info, I just tried the trial on my 9600m gt it worked perfectly under 2D stuff, but struggled on 3D. Autocad was the first program my old card couldn't handle Hopefully my professors won't ask for 3D work.

 

Cracks??? Can you provide links I never heard the the t410s was cracking.

 

If I offered a link, it would point at the T410, T410s and T510 sitting on the desks in my office.

Palmrest cracking/squeaking on every one of them, in normal working conditions. Somehow, the X201 is most sturdy.

Now, you heard it from at least one user. (Mind you, I swear by my ThinkPads for years now. I love them, squeaking or not.)

 

The discussions on Lenovo's forums are focused primarily on the T400s, but there are some reports in one of the threads of the same problem being present with the T410s. I also recall reading at least one report on the ThinkPads.com forum -- but I can't recall what thread it was in, and I'm slightly too lazy to search for it at the moment.

 

Still pretty close.

 

There are two things I want to see in the successor to the T410S:

1. 2.5" HDD on Sata II (or III).
2. Longer battery life - at least 6-7 hrs (in real world usage) on the default battery that sits flush

Improving the looks (like using brushed aluminium) would be nice, but that doesn't really line up with Thinkpad's traditional design.

 

Second that!

 

I had a close look at my T410s the other day and it seems to have a hairline crack at the edge of the palmrest on the left side. That's kind of sad considering how anal and careful I am about the machine and the fact that it's only a few months old.

 

If notice how the right hinge and ultrabay slot moves when you open the lcd then you would probably be even more worried.

 

the left side of the palm rest is weak on the T4x0s. I believe the crack forms after impact or pressure to the THIN plastic edge where the hdd cover is. It's a well documented problem, there are many references to it at the thinkpad and lenovo forums as well. The ultrabay moves as well, not the drive/battery itself but the plastic panel underneath it flexes super easy, especially with the hdd/burner in. I find it flexes less with the ultrabay battery installed.