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    ThinkPad X1 Carbon (3rd Gen.) Broadwell

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Bloody Nokia Adept, Oct 17, 2014.

  1. Bloody Nokia Adept

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    Do you think it can go to stores before December?
     
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    Absolutely not - January/February.
     
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    fu** have a friend that will come to Portugal next December :s :cry:
     
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    I hope that they don't include that stupid adaptive strip again. If they do, I'll laugh so hard... :)
     
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    I already lost my hope on it get the sdcard again so lets pray to they remove the adaptive strip...
     
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    Adaptive strip has been the least of my problems with this thing. I actually like the adaptive strip, but then again I never use function keys for work.
     
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    any further info about the new gen? would it just be an incremental upgrade? IF that's the case might as well wait for another 5-8 months for skylake?
     
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    Here are the official specs.

    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (3rd Gen)

    Intel Core i5-5200U (2.7GHz, 3MB)
    Intel Core i5-5300U (2.9GHz, 3MB)
    Intel Core i7-5500U (3.0GHz, 4MB)
    Intel Core i7-5600U (3.2GHz, 4MB)

    non-touch
    - 14.0" FHD TN (1920 x x1080) - 300nit
    - 14.0" WQHD IPS (2560 x 1440) - 300nit
    touch
    - 14.0" WQHD IPS (2560 x 1440) - 270nit

    Intel HD 5500 Graphics

    4GB or 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600MHz (soldered)

    M.2 SATA SSD (128GB/180GB/240GB/256GB/360GB)
    M.2 PCIe SSD (256GB/512GB)

    Intel Gigabit Ethernet (with included extension cable)

    M.2 Intel 7265 N + BT 4.0
    M.2 Intel 7265 AC + BT 4.0

    Precision Keyboard (with TrackPoint buttons, backlit, no more adaptive keys strip along the top)
    ClickPad (no buttons)
    OneLink dock connector
    2 x USB 3.0 ports
    mini DP, HDMI
    9.5 hours battery life (50Whr)

    no NFC
    no ambient light sensor

    331mm x 226mm x 17mm, 2.8lbs
     
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  10. droyder

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    Do you have a link to these specs?

    Considering how bad the X1 Carbon Haswell turned out, I'm eager to see whether Lenovo learned its lesson.
     
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    I cannot reveal my source or I will get into trouble, but trust me, these specs are official.
     
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    What about prices and eta in Europe?
     
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    I don't have any ETA or prices for any region.
     
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    That's a tiny space bar! I don't understand what are the keys that are responsible for the shrink.
     
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    I'm hoping that the keyboard shown is a special Asian edition that has a compressed keyboard. Maybe the English version will have a regular keyboard.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
     
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    I didn't pay much attention initially but, look, there is Ctrl in the left bottom corner! ?! Where is Fn???!!!
     
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    Seems to me like a render picture, where someone removed the Adaptive keyboard row and added the TrackPoint buttons, but forgot to correct the rest of keyboard layout - a Photoshop fail. Rest assured, the new X1 Carbon will have an FN key, without one, you couldn´t use it - and it won´t have 2x Home and End...
     
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    Let me respectfully disagree.

    Take a look onto Carbon 2nd gen keyboard -- it does not have dedicated Fn key either. To me, it looks like somebody who designed 3rd gen keyboard decided to keep the combined Esc + Fn key as it was there on the 2nd gen! Read key captions, they speak the same -- Fn moved away from Ctrl towards Esc :mad2: :eek2:

    lenovo-stuff-(12)-600x400[1].jpg
     
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    Nope, you are wrong. The X1 Carbon 3 will have a dedicated FN key.

    On the X1 Carbon 2, the FN key is actually part of the adaptive keyboard row - not part of the Esc key.

    Also notice the strongest evidence: Two Esc keys! This internal render picture is just a photoshop failure^^
     
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    OK, let's wait for CES 2015 -- I believe it will be presented there -- and see the keyboard in action :)
     
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    Hey IBMThink,

    Love ya work... but will this keyboard have F1,F2 etc like Gen 1? I hope so.
     
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    Horrible inaccurate article^^ The X1 Carbon is not going to be released with Core M.
     
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    You guys think the 2560 x 1440 (non-touch) upgrade would be worthwhile? Or would it be overkill on Windows 8.1? What impact would it have on battery life you think?

    Non-touch
    - 14.0" FHD TN (1920 x x1080) - 300nit
    - 14.0" WQHD IPS (2560 x 1440) - 300nit
     
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    Personally, I would get the 1440p since it's IPS and Windows 10 will be out soon. Batterly life vs. the 1080p would likely be a bit less (but probably not significant) since it'd be pushing more pixels.
     
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    Does Windows 10 suddenly do better with DPI scaling, etc? I've read that anything above FHD is sort of a nightmare due to Windows quirks.

    Main issue I have is that I'd want a Thinkvision monitor with a matching resolution with the laptop and there are no 1440p Thinkvision displays.

    I have my eye on this and it's unfortunately just 1080p
    Lenovo ThinkVision X24 Full HD display loses the border - SlashGear

    Whereas this Pro2840m is 3840x2160 (and also seems to have refresh issues from searching lenovo forums)
    ThinkVision Pro2840m 28-inch 4Kx2K LED Backlit LCD Monitor with Speaker | 60B4RAR6US | Lenovo | US

    I'm a big fan of higher resolution (and IPS!) otherwise and wouldn't hesitate to get the upgrade if there is no dramatic battery impact and the above two points are solved
     
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    The Technical Preview I tried didn’t, but they’re supposed to make this better. That said, you’ll likely find that while the OS deals with this better, third-party programs not updated for high DPI displays do not.
     
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    TN panel?! Unbelievable :mad:
     
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    Anyone ordered one yet? I'm about to press the button...
     
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    I just did an online configuration and it came to just over $3000 CDN. (non-touch QHD, i7, 500GB PCIe)

    Hmmm... going to have to wait a bit and see if pricing settles down.
     
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    Yeah, it's in my cart now, really pricey. But I think I'm going to go for it.

    In chat now with a sales rep, asked for a ecoupon, let's see if I get it.
     
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    placed the order. The sales rep gave me a discount for approx $130. Just ask for a coupon...
     
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    I've had one for a few weeks, and it's glorious! More later.
     
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    I ordered one as well.

    Now to pray that Lenovo releases a ThinkVision monitor with 2560x1440 resolution
     
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    Fingers crossed!!
     
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    Does anyone have access to the new TABook.pdf file listing the various configs of the X1C 3rd gen? I found one dated December 2014, but it doesn't have the new configurations in there. Thanks!
     
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    There's a lot of other 1440p monitor options on the market, is there a reason it needs to be a ThinkVision?
     
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    I like things to match =)
     
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    Hah, gotcha.

    What's the estimated ship date for your Carbon? Congrats on the purchase.
     
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    Nevermind...
     
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