ThinkPad X1

if they had 1440x900 or greater, i'd happily sacrifice the IPS screen as long as it wasnt too crap.

 

^^^ Modern Thinkpad TN screens have been pretty bad lately. Me, I'd rather have low res and great viewing angles than that horrid of a X301 screen. But yes, the tech doesn't have to be IPS. A great panel (such as the PVA screen in the X200T) with HD+ would have been preferable. Higher res does sound more appealing, but switching from my X200T to X300/X301 almost made me throw up... Quality always trumps quantity.

IPS! I've got to hand it to Lenovo this time around. 1600x900 IPS would undoubtedly be awesome, but I've come to realize that it would be asking too much. At least the X1 is on par with the X220T in terms of screen.

It almost seems that Lenovo is listening to the forums. I remember that when the X1 was spotted, I stated that $3000 was way too expensive and that $1000-$15000 would be reasonable. Price drop was later confirmed. Then others said that the weight was too high. Weight was reduced when more specs came to be. Then the IPS debacle came into play, and guess what? I think that if we continue to complain about 1366x768 maybe by the 20th... 1600x900 PVA option anyone?

It kinda makes you wonder that we shouldn't speculate until the official details are out. Buy, hey it's been pretty fun. In all seriousness (Lenovo, I hope you are listening), if 1600x900 IPS/PVA came out, I'll consider selling one of my kidneys...

On a X1 related note: Does anyone know the battery life hit when IPS is equipped on the X220? I think that one of the reasons that IPS is rare is that it is a power hog (despite being expensive of course).

 

You know, I hope they do listen because as far as I can see on this forum as well as others, the screen resolution is being discussed quite a bit. Just look at the the comments on engadget on this topic. Resolution, resolution, resolution!

 

well all things being equal, a crappy screen with high res is better than a crappy screen with low res.

the screen on my X201 is really crap, i assume the X301 is along those lines but when im working on word documents and excel files it dosent really matter to me (i bought the X201 so i can write my masters thesis while travelling)

however i do work in marketing, and sometimes i need to quickly proof designs and colours so a decent level of colour accuracy would be nice, i cant even think of doing that stuff on my x201

 

Eating the same crow here. Totally surprised it has an IPS screen option. Now quite curious to see who is making it and I would think the option will show up elsewhere as well.

I said a year ago with the advent of the iPad and its IPS display it could bode well for seeing the reincarnation of the screen in more laptops. As consumers become more aware of display quality via marketing from those companies that choose to make it a selling point (Apple) it could drive demand among higher-end consumers. Lack of awareness and demand for cheaper pricing are the enemy of seeing higher quality IPS displays offered more widely.

 

Where did you get your information that the X1 will have an IPS option? If its based on the article from engadget, then I would suggest taking a close look at their source link. Because based on this link (lenovo india) it is also stating that the X201s has an IPS option with SuperBright display with Corning Gorilla Glass protection???? I don't ever recall X201s, with exception to the tablet version, of ever having any of that. This Super Bright HD+ is based on the 350nit panel, not IPS.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see the IPS as a seperate listing on there. my bad

 

+1, they really did kill this laptop with screen resolution that they offered it with. If it had a huger resolution screen I would have though about updating my X201s but as of now nothing new is actually any better.

 

Its good to be wrong!

 

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 review -- Engadget

this is my next laptop, once revision two comes along.

 

Edit: What he said ^^^

 

Are the viewing angles just like the T420 model ? Not good or is it better ?

 

Is it me or does video make the footprint look closer to a 14in machine? I know this has be mentioned before, but video just really shows off that point.

 

Is it me, or does that laptop look much larger than the X300. More closely resembling the T420s is width? Or is the lady just petite?

Anyway, it does look beautiful!

EDIT: The dimensions are wider than the X300 and almost as wide as the T420s.

 

SR45 - It has an IPS display. All IPS displays have superb viewing angles. This is a comparison between an X220 with an IPS and one with a TN (normal for laptops) display.

IPS is particularly good when it comes to vertical viewing angles. Color and contrast are a lot better too.

YouTube - Display: TN vs. IPS at Lenovo Thinkpad X220

The X1 looks good. Not quite perfect (1600x900, and I'd personally prefer more battery life than .2" of thinness), but very good.

 

The side viewing angles are extremely good (180) but the viewing angle from the top isn't as impressive (the Gorilla Glass may refract light from top down). The glare is relatively low and I suspect there's some kind of coating to reduce glare (this isn't a mirror like many consumer gloss notebooks).

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 - Notebook Reviews by MobileTechReview

Our review and videos are up now that the embargo has ended

 

Dimensions:

X1:
13.26 x 9.1

T420s:
13.5 x 9.1

I pulled the X1 numbers from a rumor site, they may not be accurate. Looks like the footprint of the thing is almost as large as a small 14".

 

Yeah, if the footprint was smaller I would have taken a pretty serious look at this, but that along with the glare issue from the glass screen are what are making me wait for the Ivy Bridge upgrade to the X220.

 

Its not IPS my friends. 3:38 seconds in the video on the notebook review says just that. Teff. Sorry for the bad news. Its still a good display

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1.htm

 

Definitely looks like a TN when she closes the cover, and I have seen nobody mention IPS in a review of it, come to think of it. Maybe I was right before I was wrong

Lisa - if you're reading this thread still, thanks for the link and the review!

 

I was thrown off by the 350 nits on the screen but too bad its not IPS. Still a nice system to have. Now the price has to come down a bit.

 

that's nuts. Those are the numbers NotebookReview has. The X220 frankly looks so much more practical. Hopefully the battery technology and fast charging gets to other Thinkpads too.

 

Lenovo provided quite a bit of reviewer info, and there was no mention of IPS, just the 350 nit brightness and Gorilla Glass. I've asked for clarification and will let you all know.

It's really hard to say eyeballing it because the Gorilla Glass layer on top makes it look different from our X220. Lateral viewing angles are excellent but not the top viewing angle. Colors and contrast are quite high but text sharpness isn't quite as good as our X220 and ASUS Eee Slate which has an AFFS display (similar to IPS) and glossy Gorilla Glass.

 

At least it has a display port and HDMI port, something I wish the X220 and T420 came with.

The MobileTech review really accentuates the fact that it has a big bezel, specially near the hinge area.

 

Why does the comparison page on Lenevo's website state that it has a "HD display with IPS technology"?

 

IPS display my be an option just like with the X220.

 

NotebookReview (This site ) Has a review up as well!

Edit: Viewing angles are awful.

 

I just received final confirmation from Lenovo. It is NOT an IPS display. It's a TN panel. Bummer, hey?

 

Size comparison with t400:

http://notebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ThinkPad-X1-008.jpg

http://notebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ThinkPad-X1-005.jpg

 

I've learned not to believe Lenovo's spec web site. For some darn reason they have been wrong a number of times now and one would think those that work on the spec sheets would do some checking and proof read them better.

 

We will just have to wait and see if it really is IPS, but my gut feeling tell me it is IPS.

 

Anandtech just posted an article about the X1 and it mentions the following:

Whaaaaaat! Not sure I fully buy into that but I am excited.

 

That cannot be - can anyone else confirm?

 

The PR folks at Lenovo who are handling the review program state that it is not an IPS display. I asked specifically today.

 

An interesting machine but the resolution/screen size and inability to use the Dock 3 made me order the X220.

I imagine it will be quite a machine for those that it fits.

Perry

 

i was pretty excited by that too

 

If they can put a quad core in this machine, could that also mean a Sand Bridge quad core X220(seems more likely with Ivy Bridge)?

 

Maybe that's why they have the insane deal on the dual core i7 x220 today.

 

Really? Actually come to think of it I could see the X1 having a quad core option seeing as its footprint is almost the same size as the typical 14in business machine, which most have quad core options.

 

According to Engadget's review chart, the X1 actually performs better than the X220?
How is that possible?

Though I think I rather get the X220 since it has a matte screen and way better battery life...

 

I just watched the engadget review on this, and after seeing the gloss on the screen, I can say that I am not looking forward to the X1, unless they make a matte screen option... I bet people would actually be willing to chip in a few buys... Honestly I have NEVER scratched a laptop screen, and don't really see the value in Gorilla Glass...

 

the lid is so thin, it seems like the corning gorilla glass here was a structural design decision. its not always about scratches

 

Perhaps, but that still doesnt change the fact that the glossy screen kills the use of it for anyone that travels on a plane or anyone that uses their laptop with a lot of overhead or natural lighting.

 

They could have at least put an anti-glare coating on it or something.

 

There is always some variation in benchmark performance from computer to computer, part to part, and day to day. There could always be a slight difference in the exact software that is running, drivers, and other stuff that can make slight differences in performance results.

The X1 benched less than 10% faster than the x220, most of that difference was from the 3d benchmark which could easily be explained by drivers (note that Intel has released some recently), and the system performance difference of ~3% could be anything.

 

Why would you offer a kidney if they charged an arm and a leg? :wink:

 

yea-this includes me. i was forced to use a sony vaio for about a week last month and it was really annoying.

 

I dont understand the point of the headphone/usb cover on the left side.

They did this with the original Macbook Air and the Samsung 9 series, but I'm not sure of its purpose.

Is it because the sides are angled on these three laptops?

 

Check out the viewing angles

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Screen, Speakers and Keyboard

It is reported that the speakers are very good. Not so with the X220

 

yea this is the most ridiculous decision to me, because i use my laptop with either headphones or speakers plugged in 90% of the time i'm using it...

 

I have to say that this is a beautiful machine and I'm sure the engineers worked real hard to deliver a no compromise product. I think that this will, no doubt, produce a newer generation of Thinkpads in the coming years. However, I just feel that they had sacrificed big time with the battery life and screen display. They could have also done a better job with the headset jack (why do I need a ugly cover??).

I think that the refresh of this model X2??? or whatever it will be called will hopefully fix that. A bigger display (1600x900), better standard battery life (~7hrs), Ivy Bridge.

I would definitely be all over this machine if this was the case, but I think I will wait till next year. I will also keep a close look at what Sony will produce with the Z line and Apple with their Air.

For now, I will call this laptop an "Almost X1".

Edit: On that note, maybe someone could create a poll to see what users would've like to see on the X1?