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    ThinkPad X100e NetBook!

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Mandrake, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Thinkpadtoday.com says lenovo will be releasing the new Thinkpad Netbook on Jan 5th. This is their guess at the specs:

    If I ever get a Netbook it would definately have to be a Thinkpad. What do you all think?
     
  2. lordnikon

    lordnikon Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm interested. I wonder how much it would cost.
     
  3. jonlumpkin

    jonlumpkin NBR Transmogrifier

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    The 12.1" size seems like a very odd choice. I doubt it would be much smaller than the existing x200, and thus offers very little in the way of market creation (more likely cannibalization). I think it would make a lot more sense if it was 9", 10", or 11" in size like the smaller ThinkPads of yore (e.g. s30).

    Other than that, the specs look quite nice and I have thought for some time that Netbooks are just begging for a TrackPoint and decent keyboard (the touchpad on most models is laughably small).
     
  4. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I hope they keep the HDD size at 2.5" with the option of 1.8".
     
  5. k3davis

    k3davis Notebook Consultant

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    Could this be this?

    If so, let us all wail in horror.
     
  6. ckx

    ckx Notebook Evangelist

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    Neo: " Jesus Christ, that thing is real!!" (from the movie Matrix)

    Edit: Then again, I have no idea whether thinkpadtoday has a good track record for their predictions. They could still be wrong, right?
     
  7. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Sounds nice, but the 12in chassis makes me want an x200s more then the netbook variant.

    My favorite movie by far!
     
  8. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'd rather have an x200 type notebook over this, unless this was just so much cheaper.

    Market cannibalization like jon said. Of course this is all conjecture at this point.
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I don't think thinkpadtoday claims that it is the system in the pic, just that there have been pics floating around.

    On a side note they are a member here so maybe they will chime in.
     
  10. thinkpad knows best

    thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity

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    Who says that the keyboard will actually be decent? Just because it's been a ThinkPad trademark doesn't mean that they won't just use the trademark name and nothing else that makes a ThinkPad a ThinkPad. Frankly i can't believe this is going to be real. It looks like just like a big crappy mash up of the older colored buttons, T6xx's touchpad click buttons, the T4xxx's wider touchpad and some stupid new "innovation" that some idiot thought white trim would make the ThinkPad appeal to the masses, you can call me a troll, i know you people will, but i don't care for this cheeses me off more than the SL series introduction.
     
  11. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    You are jumping to way too many conclusions. A preproduction prototype doesn't always look like the actual end product. Stop worrying so much until lenovo actually announces it.
     
  12. thefreeaccount

    thefreeaccount Newbie

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    Does not compute.
    1)Released so soon after christmas? Some people will hold off on buying an expensive X200 so they can buy that thing instead.
    2)If you have enough space to carry around a 12" tablet, you probably also have enough space to carry around an extra battery.
    3)People who like trackpads and people who like netbooks tend to be mutually exclusive groups.

    All I can think of is that they might believe they can save a few dollars by using the same parts as the X200 and tossing it at a different market segment. I whether this is behind the recent shortage of multitouch screens for the X200.
     
  13. cassiohui

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    /me hopes for a s30/s31 successor *fingers crossed*
     
  14. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    Where did you get tablet from? And did you mean trackpoint? Netbook buyers don't even know what a trackpoint is.
     
  15. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    12.1 inch netbook to compete against a 12.1 inch normal portable thinkpads?? Isn't Lenovo directly competing against itself in the same X200 segments?
     
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    My (possibly incorrect) assumption is that they will be focusing on a touchscreen as the central selling point. Otherwise, why put such a huge screen on a netbook?

    Yes - sorry, I meant trackpoint.
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    also, 12.1 inch format isn't a common netbook format. X100e probably means a cut price X series, but not a netbook. The use of X100 designation, sounds like it is using a 10.1 inch LCD rather than the 12.1 inch LCD.
     
  18. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The 12.1" screen is just speculation right now. It could very well be a 10" screen. Plus with those pics that have surfaced many believe are photo-shopped. Let's hope they are.
     
  19. JaneL

    JaneL Super Moderator

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    While Ian and I have our differences over some things, he is generally correct.
     
  20. fs005

    fs005 Notebook Consultant

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    antiskip, this is not the upcoming netbook we are talking about. :)
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    i was looking at the link, and thought was the heck is this device, this isn't a X100 laptop...........
     
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    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    yeh, sorry, mistook the X100E netbook with the X100 netbook. :eek:

    ps I have deleted post and link.
     
  24. vij96

    vij96 Notebook Geek

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    Count me in if it is slimmer and lighter than the current x200s, has 12.1" or 11.6" screen, offers a good battery life and priced for less than $600. I believe the target market for this laptop is probably people who require laptop only for basic work, surfing , checking mails etc and also those who are accustomed to the trackpoint ;) . I believe if it is priced higher than $600 then people would probably go for either x200 or x200s which has more processing power and can be had for around $800 mark with coupons or other discounts. :D
     
  25. Mandrake

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    Love the pic in the link. Had to steal it.


    With the M17x on the way I can see a Thinkpad Netbook in my future. I wanted the x301 but I've been waiting for a refresh on it.
     
  26. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Where's my free hard drive? ;)


    I would have taken the IdeaPad U150 but they uglied it up with that pattern all over the palm rest.
     
  27. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    The worst nightmare has come true !!!!
    Oh my...
     
  28. JaneL

    JaneL Super Moderator

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    Other than the possible color and wierd keyboard, why do you say that?
     
  29. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    It's in the mail. ;)

    No IdeaPad, need to have the trackpoint.
     
  30. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Actually went ahead and read the whole Thinkpadtoday.com article and I gotta say except for the X100e actually coming out their guesses looks like a load of wishful thinking.

    So if Thinkpadtoday.com is guessing a Jan 5th release then I'll guess my own specs and say it's going to be using a Pineview N450 Atom which is due out Jan. 3rd and is expected to have netbooks available for sale at launch.

    An N450 Atom would also mean a 10" screen, and 1Gb of DDR2-667 RAM ( N470 could up that later on). Full Win 7 is an option now on netbooks, but W7 Starter, as well as XP, and Vista would still be possible. Lastly N450 would also come with a GMA500 on the CPU die so that means definitely no ION.

    3-cell battery standard, 6-cell optional, and 5-9 hours of battery life depending on which you choose.

    Trackpoint is a good possibility but I don't know about a docking station with an ODD...would be a great option though.
     
  31. thinkpad knows best

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    I think the Atom was somewhat of a disappointment as it didn't provide much good power per wattage ratios, especially since some used hyperthreading to compensate for low clocks, i really hope it isn't put in yet another netbook. I really didn't figure a brand that has been almost exclusive to business use would develop a netbook, to me there should only be business notebooks, not business netbooks. The keyboard looks ghastly, it's sad to see Lenovo lumping ThinkPad brandname with an IdeaPad design.
     
  32. fs005

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    So it is real. So much for my "photoshop fake" call.

    Since the X100e uses AMD Athlon Neo instead of the new Intel platforms (Pine Trail or Arrandale), Lenovo can theoretically release it in 2009. Maybe we will see some reviews soon.

    Just from the photos... why are the arrow keys so short? The IdeaPads (S10-2, S12, U150) all have taller arrow keys, which are more ergonomic.
     
  34. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Engadget link, and not a netbook. Would have been nice to have an Intel option, not liking the max 5 hour battery life.

    [​IMG]
     
  35. thinkpad knows best

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    Red, White or Black eh? Wonderful... mass ownership of "ThinkPads". No bother to me, i just hope owners of these don't feel the need to lump their
    "ThinkPads" with ours in this forum.
     
  36. coldmack

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    So, Lenovo now has the CULV U150, S12 with your choice of Atom/Ion or Via Nano and the higher end x200. Is it me or is there too many Lenovo's in the low cost, overcrowded netbook-ish market?
     
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    Personally, i don't see how big of a deal carrying a laptop around is. According to alot of people, the T61p was "heavy", whereas i pick it up all the time and don't see how this would be any harder to carry around than a netbook, is every laptop consumer so weak they can't pick up a full featured laptop without strainin? Or is it just me?
     
  38. JaneL

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    It's not the picking it up that's the problem. It's the lugging it back and forth to an office or through an airport with all of the rest of our stuff (I have an 8lb 755CE and 18 months on the road to thank for a wrecked shoulder). Not all of us are in our 20's any more. Some of us are old and decrepit with a bad hip.
     
  39. ckx

    ckx Notebook Evangelist

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    Picking up a laptop is not a problem. However, carrying a laptop on your person (as opposed to on the passenger seat) for an extended period of time does stress your back and shoulders, especially if you are carrying other things as well. For those who are mobile, every pound counts.
     
  40. coldmack

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    For some reason I kind of want to get one of these despite the fact I have a fairly capable 11in machine. Hopefully, this comes with a finger print reader and the whole Thinkpad/Thinkvantage suite to differentiate this over U150 and the S12.
     
  41. jaredy

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    I will treat this as a better netbook, despite whatever lenovo calls it. I am curious about the keyboard feel...
     
  42. Phinagle

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    Neat. They went with AMD Congo after all. Needs a Neo x2 option though...and an HDMI port.
     
  43. Mandrake

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    ugh...they were serious about this. Hopefully this is an advancement versus a step backwards. I'll try to keep an open mind about it.
     
  44. lead_org

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    given the future product folio and leaked information, i think there is high probability that this will come to existence.
     
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    Amazing how this little thing has gone from photoshop joke to Lenovo's ultimate "value conscious laptop".
     
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    Looks decent enough but why buy this when you can get a proper Thinkpad? If I'm not mistaken, the X200 barely costs a bit more than this poseur.
     
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    This will probably cost around $300, and last I checked the X200 is around $900. I'd hardly call that barely more.
     
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    why is everyone calling it a netbook? it isn't! AMD Neo is AMD's CULV solution
     
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