ThinkPad X240

^^ you should have also quoted how they disliked the absence of trackpoint buttons and mentioned that the touchpad's design hasn't changed since T431s (rattling). I agree, not many people use trackpoints nowadays, but for some it is still a very important feature.

I do like the screen, it seems to be very close to 100% sRGB which is amazing, not to mention high res. I'm gonna try and upgrade my machine to this new panel down the road.

 

Will there a tablet version of the X240?

 

thinkpad helix. You can probably find one in MicroCenter.

 

there is also a thinkpad Yoga coming.

 

No, thanks prefer x series tablet.

 

There is not going to be a new X-Series tablet. Your only options from Lenovo are the Thinkpad Yoga, Thinkpad Helix, or getting an X220t or X230t.

 

Yep. EOL'd. Our organization bought like 800 X230t's last year only to discover Lenovo abandoned the design. Very sad day. IT is pretty pissed off.

The Wacom is essential for our organization (signatures, notes, document edits). Oh well.

 

Well the Thinkpad Helix will be Wacom based, so that is still an option if you don't mind the ulv cpu/

 

How will the ULV processors in the X240 compare with the P8400 in my 5-year-old X200?

Incidentally, I can't believe how well my X200 has served me. 5 years of use at ~8 hours+ a day with no problems. Just a superb machine! I'm not convinced that the X240 will be an adequate replacement even though it is 5 years and several generations newer.

 

Even the 3rd ULV generation i7-3517U is as 2.5 times as fast as the P8400. It will blew away P8400.

 

2x exactly. So his 5 year old full voltage P8400 is still half as fast as last gen 3517u. That's the irony. Today's ulv is not gonna last for 5 years for sure. You will be forced to upgrade in 1-2 years.

 

I had a lowly i3 E420 from 3 and half years ago and it is still great for everyday work (word, programming, and web surfing). If he is ok with P8400 then I bet his needs are not CPU intensive.

 

I use statistical software extensively and sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes to run an analysis with my P8400. I'm wondering how much better off I'd be with a ULV processor in the new X240. It sounds like it would cut down on my wait times by about half?

 

Nope. Not really.

 

If I was in the market for something like this, I'd get the Thinkpad Yoga.

 

According to this website: Lenovo Solutions Center The X240 will be available with the Intel Core i5-4300M and the Core i7-4600M according to this site, as well as the T440s.

 

Those are typos. 4600U and 4300U.

 

ULV only.

And the battery option is so...interesting.
Upgradeable up to whopping 8gb RAM.
No Expresscard. How VERY interesting.....I mean...who the hell would use Expresscard slot anyways.

Maybe the CPU is NOT soldered on for this in the X-series and changeable.


You never know....

 

My lowly i3 E40 with 6GB of RAM is still rockin'

 

Yes, for typical usage the CPU doesn't make much of a performance difference.

 

Finally appeared in my local online store (NZ). Was expecting prices to be similar to the X230 release prices but it's significantly more.

 

Hopefully this hasn't been posted already but here's a purchase link in AUS:

ThinkPad X240 | 12.5" Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo Australia

Very disappointing screen specs at the moment..

 

The FHD display option is going to be added later this year.

 

So from what I see the laptop still has an mSATA slot, not the new M.2 . If that's the case a 1TB HDD + mSATA boot SSD would make a sweet combination. I only need the Full HD Touch screen display.

 

An typo on Lenovos side, it is absolutly certain that all Haswell ThinkPads use M.2 instead of mPCIe, and because of that M.2 instead of mSATA.

42mm M.2 SSDs with ~120 GB space should come out until the end of the year.

 

Lame... almost as bad as a soft launch; I've been eagerly awaiting a 240 or 240s with FHD. And of course, it's still not out in the US yet.

 

Well, at least they are going to offer it at all - it appears HP is not going to offer it on their new Elitebook 820 G1.

But thats right, these "soft launches" are annoying.

 

Dell XPS 13 with Haswell was just released today. The screen in 1080P touch covered by Gorilla Glass. Not bad, the only problem is the storage, only 256 GB SSD.

 

Saw that ... a real fail. They do seem to have a higher quality 12.5" HD display but HP seems to be having a hard time keeping pace with the market.

 

The new Elitebooks from HP are more of a budget line.

 

So when is the launch date for US ...

 

I believe the Lenovo press releases stated for a 'Late October' release date. I'm guessing that it will coincide with retail release date of Windows 8.1, which is on October 18th. I'm just hoping they have the FHD touch option at launch.

 

Hi guys. Im currently residing in Japan and just got this X240s from my lab. They got me this i5 version with 8gb ram..
To be honest, the build and quality is pretty good and Im pretty happy with it at the moment. Gona try install ubuntu and make it a dual boot.
Tried my first discharge yesterday night, 6 hours(not full usage),2 hrs this morning and left with 30% battery.
Some images of the keyboard and thinkpad..And also the windows score for it.

 

I gotta admit, it's a beautiful looking laptop.

 

If that's the X240, then shouldn't th keyboard go edge to edge? It looks a little small to me.

 

I might be totally wrong but the keyboard might be smaller than the previous generations.

 

If you look closely, the right side row have shrunk; the "shift", "enter", "\" and "backspace" keys have all gotten a little more narrow when compared to the X230.

 

Yes. On the upper row there weren't any wide keys to shrink, so Insert key is gone. Because it's very important to put Power keep next to Backspace. Apple has it this way, so Lenovo must too.

Home and End are next.

 

I have to confess, I haven't touched "home" , "end" or "insert" in > 10 years. I certainly won't miss them. I just use the trackpoint and scroll button--less hand movement. I also have the trackpoint on warp speed, so maybe that's why I don't feel a need.

 

You can customize an X240 here. Can't wait until 128GB ssd's and 8Gb of ram are the lowest options.

 

I haven't touched Insert, Home, End, Right-Alt, Right-Ctrl, PrtSc(I use snipping tool), or the window key in years. I keep hear people nagging about how Windows 8 isn't bad if you use the shortcut keys... well shortcut keys (other than the ones i made myself) are for people who don't have a trackpoint.

On my small keyboard thing. I remember a japanese reviewer a few weeks back said the words "chi-sai" (I don't speak japanese, but I know it means small)

 

So $2200 for i7 and the physical HDD, once I add camera, bluetooth, and fingerprint reader? I spent about $1200 on my X220 i7, fully loaded (except for the HDD), and another $200 or so for the extra-fast Kingston HyperX RAM.

I need to replace my X220, the lid switch and fingerprint reader have both failed, but at that price maybe I just buy a new X230. The new keyboard looks like a regression. I like the larger trackpad, but I've grown used to the X220's smaller one.

And the display is still 1366x786? The IPS is *wonderful*, which is why I'm not in the market for a T4xx (i bought six of those for work, and they're nice, but the display is not as nice as IPS), but higher resolution AND IPS might be worth the upgrade.

Somebody posted the X240's Windows Experience Index for the i5:
Processor: 6.9, RAM: 7.2, Graphics: 4.7, Gaming graphics: 6.4, Disk 5.7

My i7 X220 (with that Kingston HyperX RAM) gets this::
Processor: 7.1, RAM: 7.6, Graphics: 6.3, Gaming graphics: 6.3, Disk 5.9

Again, I'm not seeing why this is an improvement on the X230, much less the X220. And they sacrificed the second RAM slot for the nice-to-have-but-not-essential front battery? I'm feeling underwhelmed here, Lenovo.

 

Err, and how trackpoint is related to shortcut keys? For example, you need to do Ctrl+Insert to Copy, Shift+Insert for Paste (no, Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V is not the same).

But if to drop things that some people don't use >10 years, there is a long list. Let's start with CAPS LOCK. Having [] on dedicated keys is certainly waste of valuable space. Arrows can be removed - there is mouse and touch for that. Control and Alt are also for shortcuts, who needs them, there is mouse and trackpoint, removed! People coming from MacBooks manage just fine without dedicated Delete or PgUp/PgDn. And people coming from iPad keyboards, have no use for F1-F12, to the point that some idiots put these keys into reviews as a design error: http://blog.laptopmag.com/biggest-gadget-design-fails?slide=5 . And "underscore" and # are for programmers only. Most casual gamers hardly use more than WEASDZXCF keys. English speakers very infrequently type Q.

Lots of optimization is ahead of us. Why to use expensive keys, if black plastic can be used instead

 

What?! You obviously didn't get the memo. The most important thing in any laptop is it's height when closed. Every millimeter matters. Get a digital caliper and measure, if you don't see a difference. This number is far more important than performance, maximum RAM, number of physical keys and other silly legacy things: laptops are meant to be stored, not used.

 

I fixed that for you. Why don't you just change your name to LENOVOThink? We all on the forums can see you're not an IBMer.

 

Sorry, bad explanation. I still use Ctrl-ZXCVIBU very very frequently. It's those Win-Arrow key, or other non-editing shortcuts that I don't use. I made shortcuts like Alt-S to open the snipping tool, Alt-C for calculator, Alt-I for Chrome...

You're right, Cap-Lock can go to hell. However, I'm in science so: I need [] for brackets, _ is for the Ctrl-_ shortcut to make a subscript, PgUp/Dn are needed to browse Pdf/Ppt, Delete is a definite must, # is for writing #5.

I know you're exageratting but hell, but this is why we look down on those fanboys

 

The majority of people aren't in science, so it does not matter. Keyboard is a device for starting media player, browsing and typing LOL, [] are pointless there (look at phone keyboards, not there, not needed!). Other OS-es, Linux, or Windows console applications, with Ctrl+C = break, and not "Copy", do not exist. As Ctrl+Shift+Home,Ctrl+Shift+End, Ctrl+Home, Ctrl+End, Ctrl+Insert, Shift+Insert, etc.etc. , supported by every single text editor on Windows for decades, are not necessary either.

And you, sure, can adapt and start using Fn+Shift+Ctrl+Alt+3 to enter the #. Or just use a trackpad, and choose from symbol menu in just 5 clicks and 3 movements. Because the only thing that is better than 90 physical keys on laptop, is to have 80 physical keys. But Lenovo layout innovators can, and will, improve it further, by making it 70 keys. And then again, until it's a perfect 38 keys layout: 26 letters, 8 digits (excluding I and 0, which are served by similarly looking letters), Enter, spacebar, Shift, and Fn key. Punctuation is overrated.

What an innovative keyboard it will be, coupled with a trackpad that is 5mm larger in every dimension, and so much of beautiful clean minimalistic plastic to surround it, rather than the silly keys nobody uses anyway (except those dinosaurs who actually use laptops for something)! Can't wait.

 

Actually looking to buy the T440s but customized the X240 anyway. There is only a 1 year and 4 year warranty. What happen to offering the 3 year warranty? I thought that was standard?

 

I see that along with all of the other logical fallacies, straw man arguments are popular with folks in love with the old keyboard...

 

I also have an i7 X220 that I love very much, but it can heat to more than 90"C easily. I hope X240 can run more coolly because of the ULV CPU.