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    Thinkpad T61P WSXGA Color Calibration ICC Download

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by BrendaEM, Sep 30, 2007.

  1. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    My friend helped me do a color calibration on a current Thinkpad T61P with matte (non-glossy) widescreen WSXGA+ 1680x1050. The lookup appears to be a LG-Philips 42T0423 / LP154W02-TL06 display.

    I'm sorry, but the color profile is NOT for the WUXGA 1920x1200 screen.

    The calibration was done with a GretagMacbeth Eye-One hardware/software color calibrator, with the display set at full brightness setting, (FN)-(HOME) all the way up. The original profile was quite bluish, compared to the new one, which looks warmer more yellow in comparison.

    Using a non-specific ICC will not be as accurate as having the calibration done on your specific screen, yet I have provided it because I think it is closer than the way-cool/blue ICC that was provided. Displays part numbers may change, and colors may changes with different batches of displays and CCF lights. Any display may change over time.

    Please back up your original calibration profile before using this one. Thank you. The ICC must be unzipped for use. Please look elsewhere for ICC installation, as it will vary depending on driver and version. Gamma loaders, such as Adobe Gamma loader (in Start menu/Programs/Startup) may effect results.

    The owners and admins of Notebookreview.com as well as myself, will not be held responsible for color matching errors, or anything else that might occur from using the profile provided as as-is freeware.

    Thank you Dom
     

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  2. alphaoenz71v

    alphaoenz71v Notebook Geek

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    Is this for LG or Samsung?

    Can someone school me on profiles for a second?

    When I load the profile through Vista, shouldn't the colors and gamma change on my screen? I'm not entirely sure how this works.
     
  3. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    Apparently it's a LG-Philips: 42T0423 / LP154W02-TL06
     
  4. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    Loosely...

    The ICC is a color table adjusting the monitor's gamma contrast and brightness curves so that it displays color accurately.

    Usually the ICC profiles are applied/imported somewhere in the video settings depending on the drivers usually under "Color Correction." You should save your current profile before using the one we made, just in case the one I offered doesn't suit your needs.

    I could easily notice when my ICC was loaded, by a stark shift from blue to yellow.
     
  5. alphaoenz71v

    alphaoenz71v Notebook Geek

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    Weird, I see absolutely no change once I switch profiles.
     
  6. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    Here is mine... if anyone wants to try it. I made my icc profile using the Monaco Optix XR Pro (DTP-94 calibration device) and Monaco Optix XR Pro software. Before I made this custom profile, Photoshop CS3 said the factory profile was faulty. Photoshop likes the new profile I made! :cool:

    My profile was made with all of the brightness and contrast settings at default. I have nVidia graphics. On AC power, my brightness is set to max using FN+Home, but in the nVidia control panel the brightness is set to 50% (colors get washed out it you go any higher in the nVidia control panel).

    After you download, unzip the file. The default location for ICC profiles is C:/WINDOWS/System32/spool/drivers/color ... That is where you should place the file (inside the color folder).

    Then go to Control Panel (classic view) -> color management -> click add and set up the icc profile as the default.

    (pay attention to what is set as the current default) If you are unsatisfied with this custom profile, just set it back to the original default.
     

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  7. Hellbore

    Hellbore Notebook Evangelist

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    Dude stallen you are the man always helping people around here...just something I noticed lol... Thanks also to BrendaEM, I'm excited to try both these color profiles once I get my Thinkpad! (probably tomorrow or the next day).

    BrendaEM - Just wondering, what video card do you have?

    I just wonder if what video card you have will determine which color profile is a better match. I already know I have the same card that Stallen has so I think his might be a better match for my Thinkpad, or does it work that way?

    One thing though - I have the LG screen, what screen do you have Stallen?
     
  8. alphaoenz71v

    alphaoenz71v Notebook Geek

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    EDIT: Finally figured it out. I guess it was actually changing, I just didn't notice. Once I compared the srbg windows profile to an adobe ps document with the t61 profile, and then the opposite, I could definitely tell the difference. Thanks for the profiles.

    Now for accurate color while doing web or print work in photoshop, I set the workspace to the calibrated profile, correct?
     
  9. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    Yeah, that's right. Color management can get very DEEP! You know, anyone doing serious work in Photoshop with the intention to print will have to not only calibrate the monitor, but you will need to calbrate and create profiles for the printer and even a profile for each type of paper you use. It gets pretty intense.

    Basically you want to calibrate your monitor so what you see on the screen is what you will get on the prints, but that only happens if the printer/paper combination has a profile as well.

    This is the whole reason why people are disappointed when they get a picture looking just the way they want in Photoshop, but then it looks like something totally different when it is printed.

    I was really into this at one time, but it became so time consuming and expensive to make my own prints. I now just have a calibrated monitor and I get my pictures looking as they should in photoshop then I send them off to mpix.com (they are the best! I tried about a dozen online and a few local and the quality of mpix surpasses them all.) Obviously mpix has professionally calibrated printers to match their professional quality paper. I still print occasionally at home when I'm in a hurry, but for larger projects mpix is the way to go!
     
  10. alphaoenz71v

    alphaoenz71v Notebook Geek

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    I'll have to keep them in mind.

    Want to hear something funny? I've been doing web graphics and since I was like 12, just graduated this May with my bachelors in graphics and associates in web development, and they never once taught us about color calibration. I guess that's what I get for picking a university that isn't really a design school.
     
  11. gridtalker

    gridtalker Notebook Virtuoso

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    It is for the LG
     
  12. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    Wow! I guess I can believe that. I have a sis-in-law that has a degree in graphic design and she doesn't seem to know much about color management. I suppose it doesn't matter as much if it is going to stay on the web/screen. But if you have intentions of printing (especially real/actual photographs of people and places) calibrated monitor AND printer/paper is the only way to go.

    If you are interested in learning more about color management, here are some good references:
    http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm

    And here are some excellent videos that make it easier to understand (he uses Photoshop on a mac with an Epson printer, but the same rules apply when using a PC and any other printer):
    http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/PhotoshopCSPrinSM.mov
    http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/CS2PhotoshopPrintSM.mov

    I have spent a fair amount of money on video tutorials for Adobe products. When I came across this website I thought I hit a gold mine. This website has many many free videos for quick tips using Photoshop, Illustrator, and other Adobe applications. It's definitely worth bookmarking!:

    (scroll down a little bit for all of the videos)
    http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html



    >
     
  13. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    I'm noticing that Nvidia's drivers aren't using the profile without Adobe Gamma Loader, or another loader. I have no idea why the ICC's aren't being used systemwide.
     
  14. Hellbore

    Hellbore Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried using a color profile in the Nvidia settings and it doesn't appear to apply the profile... ever. Am I doin something wrong or is this a problem w/ Nvidia drivers? Brenda?
     
  15. dimonay

    dimonay Notebook Consultant

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    Would anyone happen to have a profile for a T61P WUXGA?

    It gets to be a bother when Photoshop keeps nagging about my color profile.
     
  16. eyecon82

    eyecon82 Notebook Deity

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    does anyone have a profile for a 14" ws samsung screen?
     
  17. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    I think to use the profile, a loader such as Adobe gamma loader is nesessary. Perhaps there is a freeware one that will load the profile. I will look into it, but it may be a few days, because I'm quite from from home.
     
  18. hconnor

    hconnor Newbie

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    quick and dirty fix: take the output from your printer and try to visually color match it by using the nvidia panel under the control panel. when i bought my laptop months ago, i noticed that the screen looked blue, but forgot all about it until i was making a brochure and the output today looks way too yellow. went in and manually did a gamma correction, cranking back the blue. of course that's an imperfect solution, but at least its a quick fix if you, like me, are having trouble getting the machine to recognize the color correction files loaded on this thread (by the way, thanks to those that posted them.)
     
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    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    If someone wants a copy of Adobe Gamma (standalone without Photoshop) to make their own custom profiles pm me. Its cheaper than buying a pro calibrator and probably not as accurate but it works. Somehow profiles created on it wont load with the ProfileLoader posted above - however that's moot as Adobe Gamma comes with its own loader.

    edit: the link for AG is taken off Adobe's forum if anyone is concerned with legality issues. I'm certain it would be taken off if they had any problem with it.
     
  23. wdyusc

    wdyusc Newbie

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    BrendaEM and Stallen, thank you for your wonderful icc profiles!
    I used them for my T60, and I got an excellent and vivid color. It looks like Stallen's ICC fits my LG screen best. It made my LCD screen more good-looking and more detailed. I really appreciated it!
     
  24. kaede

    kaede Notebook Consultant

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    anyone for t61 wxga screen? :D

    is it really make a big difference when im using internal display ??
     
  25. MNguyen

    MNguyen Notebook Geek

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    I could use one for the 14" T61P SXGA screen if anyone has one.
     
  26. wdyusc

    wdyusc Newbie

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    for me, yes.
    the original display looks dark, mid-tone looks bad, and the color temperature looks more close to 9300K-- more blue and colder.
    After I replaced the original one with Stallen's icc profile, it looks more natural and more accurate.
    Give it a try. If you dont mind, but you have to make sure your T61 LCD screen made by LG and the model same with the authour's.
     
  27. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    I'm glad that someone got it working : )
    If it is the display mentioned, it should be a lot closer than the default, whatever they were thinking.

    The stock color was quite blue.

    I don't know why the Nvidia color manager doesn't, nor windows itself know what really to do with a color profile.
     
  28. hamproof

    hamproof Notebook Enthusiast

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    I downloaded both the ICC files but nothing changed until I downloaded the DisplayProfile program as referenced in the link to a blog above.

    The default ICC profile is indeed very bluish, and I'm glad I found these 2 ICC drivers.

    BrendaEM profile is a bit brighter than Stallen, though I believe both show similar color temperature. I'm using Stallen for now.
     
  29. shulinchen

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    Anyone here got their T61p 15.4" Samsung WSXGA+ panel calibrated? If do could you pls share ur ICC profile? Thanks in advanced.
     
  30. supra97RX7

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    i don't even know who manufactured my LCD...
    anyway, can someone explain how to install these?
    i got to the color management screen, and see the add button, but i don't think that's it - when i add either of the files, it seems nothing really happens??
     
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    i've checked my FRU. there are two parts though, and I don't know which one to follow.

    42T0422 42T0423 15.4 INCH LCD DISPLAY FRU

    42X3996 42X4641 15.4 INCH LCD DISPLAY ASSEMBLY FRU
    :confused:

    also, how you install the color profiles?
     
  33. dealspiggy

    dealspiggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wonder if anyone happen to have profile for T61 - 14.1'' LCD (wxga+)?

    My screen is so blue that my eyes are hurt after a short use. :( :(

    Thanks!
     
  34. aiiee

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    Supra, your FRU for the screen is 42T0423

    On my machine, the color profiles live in \WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color

    place the ICM or ICC file there.

    then right click on your desktop
    choose properties
    choose settings
    choose advance
    choose color management
    select your desired profile
    select set as default
    select apply

    and you are always free to manually adjust gamma in the nvidia control panel
     
  35. supra97RX7

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    i'm about to try that in a few minutes. but i think i like how it looks with 10-20% dig. vibrance, but blue gamma down to 15-20%. it looks comparable to the external dell LCD hooked up to the docking station (they end up displaying the same wallpaper)
     
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    okay, so i'm fairly certain it's not changing anything. i tried messing around with displayprofile, and when different profiles were selected, i could tell noticeable difference in color (but i didn't like how the little program/applet functioned).

    i can't figure out why the color management menu doesn't seem to be working :confused:
     
  37. eyecon82

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    stop spamming
     
  38. aiiee

    aiiee Notebook Geek

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    I completely don't understand this post, explain please?
     
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    where is the spam?
     
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    It was a message from user "yesrightconnet" that was deleted...
     
  41. danomatika

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    Both profiles from the first page work great with my new T500 (i'm assuming an LG screen). The bluishness was really getting to me. I don't remember it being a problem in the Vista Business pre install which was then wiped for Ubuntu. I tried the factory icms from Lenovo, but saw no change. Now with the custom profiles I have a screen very close to the FlexView on my old T42p. (why are we always comparing backwards nowadays :p)
     
  42. paulgj

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    I have a T61 wxga+ FRU # 42T0494
    but I haven't been able to find out who the manufacturer is. Anyway mine by default was very blue so I re-calibrated with a Spyder3Pro. Find attached my icc file.
     

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  43. batmodem

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    I've been looking for a calibrated profile for my T500 all this year. Using Stallen's profile gives me more contrast and the bluishness is gone. Thanks to all profile posters!

    I just right clicked and selected install and the monitor settings added the profile and selected as the default on the ati and intel adapters.