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    Thinkpad X1 Carbon 2012

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by xzybit, May 15, 2012.

  1. xzybit

    xzybit Notebook Geek

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  2. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    How many 14" notebooks is Lenovo going to make? Looks nice, but 14"? Looks really large to me.

    Is Lenovo ceeding the 13.3" market to other brands?
     
    Bronsky, May 15, 2012
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    Thats the same size as the X1. They just included a large display, so you have a slim-bezel Design.
     
    ibmthink, May 15, 2012
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    Any word on whether they're staying with a full-voltage processor for this one?
     
    z4srh, May 15, 2012
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  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    ultrabook = ulv
     
    Karamazovmm, May 15, 2012
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    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Oh ... in that case, the X1 looks like it is going to be a winner. The only thing I can see missing is a Thunderbolt port. It looks from the video that the glossy display is gone, is it matt?

    Since it is not going to be released until later in the summer, I'll probably wait on replacing my aging Acer until the end of the year or after CES. That will give me time to look at the W8 tablets as well and read some reviews and user impressions before making a commitment to a new notebook.
     
    Bronsky, May 15, 2012
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  7. Thors.Hammer

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    I have a feeling there are a lot of cool machines coming. The X1C appears to be a nice next step for the X1 family, but there are a lot of questions unanswered.

    What type of screen? IPS?
    Battery life?
    Externally attached dock options?
    Price
    Reliability
    Storage device options
    How many SoDIMM slots?
    Max supported RAM amount
    GPU options if any
    Does it run cool and quiet?

    Did Lenovo say the X1C is an Ultrabook?

    I see now the X1C is indeed using the Ultrabook trademark.

    I would attach a pic, but apparently that site feature is broken.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 15, 2012
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  8. ibmthink

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    Yes, matte. ;)
     
    ibmthink, May 15, 2012
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  9. xzybit

    xzybit Notebook Geek

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    Is that magsafe I see?
     
    xzybit, May 15, 2012
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  10. danishh

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    lenovo canada website is saying august 2012 availability.

    also mentions t430u as late 2012 availability.
     
    danishh, May 15, 2012
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  11. Pseudorandom

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    I smell lawsuits. Then again, magnetic power adapters existed long before Apple patented them.
     
    Pseudorandom, May 15, 2012
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  12. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Matte 900p screen is good but I wonder if it has a decent gamut and viewing angles. It will probably be miles behind the upcoming retina-equipped macbooks.
     
    Aikimox, May 15, 2012
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  13. Thors.Hammer

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    The 1600x900 screen on a T420 is fine for a lot of people. But people buying a high end X1 Carbon might not be satisfied with the typical 1600x900 screens currently shipping.

    Hopefully Lenovo has this addressed with a higher quality IPS or PLS screen for the X1. If they don't, they are likely going to hear about it.

    Resolution matters, but so does quality.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 16, 2012
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  14. jjesusfreak01

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    My deep fryer has one.

    Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2
     
    jjesusfreak01, May 16, 2012
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  15. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    X1C comes with IPS 1600x900.... i am in.
     
    lead_org, May 16, 2012
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  16. zOne31

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    The X1c looks simply awesome and may be one of the laptops that keeps me from going to Apple/Mac OS X. Just waiting on pricing and screen details but this may very well be my next laptop. Edit: A good battery life wouldn't hurt.
     
    zOne31, May 16, 2012
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  17. red grenadine

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    Yeah I'm buying this
     
    red grenadine, May 16, 2012
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  18. pepper_john

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    X1 is very sexy
     
    pepper_john, May 16, 2012
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  19. Thors.Hammer

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    Is that stated somewhere on the lenovo.com website? Are they going to use the Flexview brand again? Seems like they should.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 16, 2012
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  20. edit1754

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    Why they didn't use the FlexView brand as well on the X220 is beyond me. Instead they gave it the name "Premium".
     
    edit1754, May 16, 2012
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  21. princealyy

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    Dare I say it... X301 replacement ??
     
    princealyy, May 16, 2012
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  22. Thors.Hammer

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    The X1C and the X301 are really different. It's hard to say it's a replacement.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 17, 2012
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  23. lkailburn

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    no news on processor or memory options for this? Sorry I'm late to the party

    -Luke
     
    lkailburn, May 17, 2012
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  24. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    its going to be whatever ulv cpu available, regarding ram, I think there is 1 sodimm slot, put Im not putting my faith on that, read this somewhere
     
    Karamazovmm, May 17, 2012
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  25. danishh

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    other manufacturers have been going with built in ram for ultrabooks, so one sodimm might actually be nice. Based on the size i'd be surprised if a 2.5" drive (even slim) fits in there either, so you're stuck with just mSATA.


    now that i'm over the awe from just looking at the x1, i'm realizing that it makes little sense for me to actually buy it. For less money you can get an edge s430 with 2 sodimms and space for 2 2.5" Hdd's (or one + ODD), a more powerful processor, a discrete (if underwhelming) video card, and it just weighs one pound more. Is the difference in functionality between a 4lbs laptop and a 3lbs laptop really worth it?
     
    danishh, May 17, 2012
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  26. Thors.Hammer

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    People that buy the X1 Carbon can't or won't buy an Apple MacBook Air. Carbon Black is going to be a signature look. If the X1C ends up being a truly premium machine, people that buy it aren't going to be looking at the same things you are.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 17, 2012
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  27. StormShadow

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    What do you think is more durable, the current x1 or the x1 carbon?
     
    StormShadow, May 18, 2012
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  28. Thors.Hammer

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    The current X1 is nearly indestructible. It is built like a tank.

    I'm hoping the Lenovo rep lets me torture the new X1 Carbon. :D
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 18, 2012
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  29. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Im hoping for a drop video again! and clumsy sorry dear I dropped water on it!
     
    Karamazovmm, May 18, 2012
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  30. princealyy

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    while I agree they are different, I think that there really isn't any other laptop being put out by lenovo, that will replace the x301 directly, so I think this is as close as it gets.

    I think I will try to order one to replace my t410s (which I bought as a refurb and regret very much)
     
    princealyy, May 18, 2012
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  31. M4rauder

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    Based on the hands-on at the press release, it doesn't look like an IPS screen. You can see some color shift and inversion.
     
    M4rauder, May 18, 2012
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  32. Thors.Hammer

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    Yea, I was noticing that too. Fortunately that isn't a shipping model. So there is still a glimmer of hope the Flexview screen will rise from the ashes like a glorious Phoenix. :D
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 19, 2012
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  33. WyrmHF

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    Try to nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure.
     
    WyrmHF, May 19, 2012
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  34. danishh

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    Iran's goal all along has just been to figure out a way to destroy their old thinkpads.
     
    danishh, May 20, 2012
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  35. pepper_john

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    wonder when there will be a thinkpad yoga like the ideapad yoga.
     
    pepper_john, May 20, 2012
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  36. ZaZ

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    A redo of the X300 with the Yoga LCD would be fantastic.
     
    ZaZ, May 20, 2012
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  37. Thors.Hammer

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    Windows 8 launch time frame would be my guess.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 20, 2012
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  38. vēer

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    Looks like rather nice upgrades are made, I hope they will keep on working to increase built in batterys capacity.

    BTW, isnt it time to move X1 and perhaps X1x0e to the "real" ThinkPads forum, given that all new ThinkPads will have the same keyboard?
     
    vēer, May 20, 2012
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  39. Bronsky

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    I think there was a suggestion that the Thinkpad tablet designs would be more like next year. I would guess we'll see them at CES in Q1.
     
    Bronsky, May 20, 2012
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  40. Pseudorandom

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    I'm pretty sure the way its separated isn't "Real™ Thinkpads" and "Fake Thinkpads," but rather models that have a lot of threads and models that don't have a lot of threads, so the threads about popular models don't push the less popular ones to several pages back before people can see them.
     
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  41. Karamazovmm

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    its actually separated by the real and non real thinkpads
     
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  42. Pseudorandom

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  43. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    bollocks, you just need to see the treatment regarded to those that are here, in any forum
     
    Karamazovmm, May 20, 2012
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  44. Thors.Hammer

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    It seems the issue here is more around the root for the forums. forum.notebookreview.com supports a lot of different makers so the root forums are the makers, not oriented towards models or series like you find at forum.thinkpads.com •

    At forum.thinkpads.com • you see pretty nice organization so you can look quickly in an area and aren't inundated with noise about other machines you aren't interested in.

    Lenovo Community - Lenovo Community is organized ok, but their community software and layout is pretty poor.
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 20, 2012
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  45. MidnightSun

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    Generally, I agree. You guys have no idea how long we moderators spent debating back and forth before splitting the sections as they are now ;)

    What we have to balance is organization and activity:

    On one extreme, we can divide the sections up into many segments, for example: Thinkpad T/W-series, Thinkpad SL/L/R/Z-series, Thinkpad X-series, Thinkpad Edge, and Lenovo IdeaPad/Essential lines. That would be the "ideal" layout in terms of what makes sense, but the problem then is that there's an unwieldy stack of subforums and they each appear less "active." You can see this in effect on some forums (ie, DesktopReview) where there are too many subforums for the number of active members.

    On the other hand, we can stick with a status quo (back before the split, that meant everything together), which is not ideal since threads about the less-popular models are quickly pushed down and never resolved.

    We came up with the current compromise after debating between those two extremes. The current layout is sort of a mix between distinctions of "real/traditional" and "new/so-called fake" Thinkpads, that we feel can help solve the aforementioned problems in the best way. The greatest downside to this is that the dividing lines can at times be hazy. So, you're all correct, really.

    The current organization could change in the future depending on how Lenovo structures its lineup and how much activity we get here at NBR's Lenovo subforum, but as for now, we'll wait and see.

    Hope that cleared things up! :)
     
    MidnightSun, May 21, 2012
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  46. Thors.Hammer

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    Now back to the Carbon, how bout that screen yall? :D
     
    Thors.Hammer, May 21, 2012
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  47. y2bd

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    Link! Link!
     
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    I'd bet the memory, battery and SSD are all swappable on the X1.
     
    ZaZ, May 21, 2012
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  49. NumLock

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    This almost looks as nice and elegant as the Samsung Series 9 2nd gen. Sam resolution too. If only it has full 1080p...
     
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