Thinkpad X1 Carbon 2012

that is correct

 

Thanks for this upcoming inventory intelligence. I, however, am suspicious of how accurate this type of info is as not all reps nor their managers are fully aware of all the supply chain issues that the manufacturing side runs into.

I only need my machine for a long trip starting on Black Friday (11/23rd), so while i have the time to wait, one never knows if you get a lemon (hope not!) or not. If one were to be unfortunate enough to have received a lemon, there must be sufficient time to use it, test it, return/exchange it, and wait for the new unit to arrive. That will all take time, so i'm thinking of ordering it now, despite the lack of the i7/8gb RAM option.

 

That's a good strategy. I will wait and see if an i7 shows up even though there is a $450 discount coupon in my hands right now (expiring 31/08). I simply can't get around it mentally, since my current machine is fairly light and no slouch. I think the i7 will be enough to justify shelling out the cash (for me).

 

5-10% cpu perf improvement is what you are hoping for.

There is no i7 8GB on here:
lenovosolutions...

so I highly doubt it, neither has it been on anywhere else. You are the first time we hear of that. Nice if true. Still makes no sense to me, I don't buy the heat explanation and apparently no Tbolt(as in t430s case), thus something else. Maybe there weren't enough 3667 to go around for, but they still wanted the i7 brand but not many purchases. This is the only thing I could think of. As all these are essentially the same CPUs, just the higher clocks are the best quality ones, that not many came out due to the new manufacturing process and they are thus adjusting how many will be demanded, by coming up with the idiotic i7/4GB combo. This is the best explanation I have till today.

 

Question about processor speed:

I'm still currently using my T60 as my only computer - it has the Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0Ghz chip

The carbon i5-3317U chip clocks at 1.7Ghz with "up to 2.6Ghz boost"

I realize they're different chips, but will the i5 carbon really be any noticeably faster (if at all) than my T60?

This area still has me confused and I want to have realistic expectations, thanks.

 

Here's another review claiming the screen is IPS:

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon ultrabook review: Strong, lightweight and elite - Computerworld

However, this is the first review I've read that correctly reports both the pre-discount pricing (on the base model at least) and the 1-year warranty (everyone else has reported three years).

 

It all depends on what you use your machine for.
Yes this processor will be faster with everything that you do, compared to you T60, but the biggest improvements of the speed of the whole laptop, will be due to the SSD, and these will be extremely notable.

If you do CPU intensive work, than the 2 more threads will help, if multi-threaded code, will help a lot.

RAM access also much faster. But if you are a normal word, email, web user, then during typing, reading, browsing, you will not feel a huge improvement. Programs will start faster, documents will load quicker.

With your CPU you should be able to watch 720p on your laptop, so all these needs are taken care of.

 

That's good that it got the 1 year warranty down, but the IPS claim isn't true. It's a high quality TN panel.

 

some Youtube reviewer claims the vertical viewing angle is limited. It's unlikely to be an IPS panel.
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Review - YouTube

 

Meh. The X1 Carbon screen is a TN screen by LG Philips, product code LP140WD2 (TL)(E2).

Some so-called reviewers are clueless.

 

Speaking of laptops with actual IPS screens... what do you guys think of the X230 compared to the X1 Carbon?

 

How do you get 450$ discount? All I was able to achieve was a mere ~330$ discount on the maximum configuration.

Thanks,
Manuel

 

Manuel, it's a Canadian coupon code. If you are in Canada, I posted details a few pages back.


Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

My estimated ship date just got pushed to 9/26 from 8/28, anyone else have their estimated ship date changed?

Also, this is my first post, been skimming for a while but things just got interesting.

 

What configuration did you order?

I just noticed that the i7 has been pulled from the Canadian web store.

 

Yea I think the i7 config was pulled because of the pricing glitch, possibly not. It was over $10,000 on the US store today.

I ordered the i5-3427/4GB/128 config.

 

Mine has not changed. Base config, ordered on the 15th. Still "Released to Manufacturing" with Estimated Ship Date of 2012/08/26.

When did you order?

 

Ordered on 8/20. Mine just changed from processing to order received, I think the ship date changed at the same time. I guess waiting almost a week to order wasn't a great idea.

 

I compared the X1 Carbon to my X220, which is a reasonable proxy forthe X230. Bottom line, the two laptops are quite closely matched. Which will work better for you depends on your specific uses, needs, and budget. As all the reviews noted, the X220 was/is a superb laptop and I am sure the X230 as well.

I assume the X230 offers a high quality High-Nit IPS display option. This is going to be better in terms of image quality, but the difference apparently is not large (I hope not, having ordered an X1 Carbon!). Obviously the screen on the X1 is larger (14 vs 12.5") and higher resolution. This may be the biggest advantage of the X1 Carbon.

The X1 Carbon is about 1/3 pound lighter. The big advantage of the X230 is is much greater flexibility for expansion, customization with respect to RAM, HDD/SSD in ultrabay, mSATA options including SSD, more ports, etc, and a LOWER PRICE (at least with a HDD option).

They seem both to be excellent computers, and whichever you chose should work very well for you.

 

Hi, Andrew posted a video comparison of X1C versus X220: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thi...thinkpad-x1-carbon-2012-a-96.html#post8773550 . Based on this video, there's vertical viewing angle differences. But then again, the viewing angle is pretty extreme. For normal single person use, it won't be an issue. But if you have people looking over your shoulders, it might be an issue. Just my $0.02... I haven't seen the X1C in peson so my opinions are purely based on the video.

Regardless, I'm out of the hunt for a laptop now. I decided to spend me chunk of change on a new camera.

 

The X1 offers you a notebook that's incredibly thin. It also gives you a good HD+ LCD, but the X230 is more well-rounded versatile machine. If thin and HD+ are at the top of your priorities, then the X1 may be worth consideration.

 

Ahh, right. Didn't see that it was you. Thanks. So I have to move to Canada .. ; )

Manuel

 

Lenovo has removed from the online store configuration with i7. It is logical reasoning that price 10K+ after discount for this model is a bit exaggerated.

 

Thanks. I work from home so I don't really *need* extremely thin (although I kinda like it ) but a 14" screen vs 12.5" would be nice for the times I'm not hooked up to the U2410 monitor.

I found my old D420 in the closet. It looks A LOT like an x230! It doesn't work too well but I'm gonna fire it up and mess around with it a bit. It should give me a good idea of the x230 screen size, resolution, footprint, etc. To be honest, I had forgotten how small and light this thing is.

 

Unfortunately this seems like it won't work. It used to be that Lenovo would let you convert your cart to a quote yourself. Now there is no way to do it yourself, you must ask a rep (either chat or phone) and they can convert your saved cart to a quote. I did this successfully but then noticed the quote expired the same day. I spoke to two more reps to try and fix this and was told quotes made from affinity pricing (any EPP site including the B&N Gold link) are only valid for 1 day and there is no way to extend them.

BEWARE: If you convert a saved cart into a quote it will then mark any one time coupons as *used* and you will not be able to use them in another cart or quote.

I really wish this had worked.. I was hoping to save the current pricing and wait until labor day to both see if the pricing was better and if there were more configurations available (i7/8gb). As far as I know the current pricing is supposed to end today no?

 

It's hard to say when this current pricing is going to end. The BTSBEST code which the other Thinkpads have ends today but the X1 Carbon doesn't use that code.

 

Have anyone received a shipment confirmation for the Thinkpad X1 Carbon yet?

 

Any word on delivery statuses for those of you on here who have ordered and had an estimated delivery date of 08/22?

 

from my sense of what i've been reading, it would seem unlikely that anyone will receive their x1c from China before August 30th.

most updated ship dates are around 8/27th. it takes at least 3 business days even for FedEx International EXPRESS, which is extremely costly. it is far more likely that they ship using a lower rate FedEx International service, i.e. International Economy, or something akin to that, which would mean easily 4-5 business days, plus an unknown period for customs clearing (which should be short due to this being Lenovo, sealed, bulk shipping, etc).

 

I don't recall it taking that long when the thinkpad X300 came out. I remember when it was shipped, it took 3 business days to get to my doorstep. As for the ship dates that are currently being posted on lenovo's site, I think those might be for the new batch that is being sent out. I would call the reps but I think they are just as clueless as we are. Based on what I have read on this forum, we seem to know more than them

 

My ship date has been stable at 8/23, we'll see what happens though.
This is for a $999 base system.


The lenovo website says 2-3 days for expedited shipping, 4-5 days for standard.

 

Long time lurker here. My order also still shows shipping on the 23rd (ordered last week on the 16th). Looks like the shipping date changed for some people that posted here but mine has not changed at all since I ordered. Hoping for some people to start posting that their ordered X1 Carbon units are on their way. This is for the i5/256 GB SSD/8 GB RAM with 2 year warranty.

Also, not sure I saw this posted in this long thread but Lenovo has posted the hardware maintenance manual on the Guides and Manuals section for the X1 Carbon:

http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x1carbon_hmm_0b48811.pdf

 

I have also been lurking since Page ~30.
My confirmation email just came in this afternoon that my unit shipped. I ordered on the first pre order day. Just trying to verify for everyone that early units are shipping

 

Nice! I also ordered on the first day, the 14th, but haven't received any confirmation. I also can't check the status since my account always shows a time-out error when trying to view my order.

 

What day and configuration did you order? Thank you. I Ordered mine on the 15th i5/256SSD/8GB and it still shows exp. ship date of 8/23

If i click the link in my email, it shows me a time out error as well. However if you go to order status on the site and put in your information, it should show you everything.

 

Thanks. I don't see any confirmation of it being shipped out, but my expected date of shipment was actually yesterday, the 21st.

Mine is the 8GB/ 256GB / i5 model.

 

I see they are not listing an i7 model on the website anymore (US)

 

I want to wait for the i7/8gb option that may be released in a couple of months, but meanwhile my HP Envy 15 is having hard drive issues. Thinking about getting a Samsung 830 256gb for $180 to prolong the life of my Envy, but then I can't use that SSD in the new x1c.

Should I just buy the i5/8gb version or should I hold out for the i7/8gb and just hope the Sam830 SSD in my Envy can help the laptop more dollars when I sell it on Ebay?

For anyone interested, here's my reasoning for getting the X1C:
Ruled out Zenbook prime because screen is too small and no touchpoint and ruled out 15" Series 9 because of a bad keyboard and bad trackpad (plus no touchpoint). So only other option to "get a new laptop NOW" would be to go with a T430 or T430s. Bur I rather just wait a few more weeks for an i7/8gb....hence thinking about getting a replacement SSD for my old/current laptop.

 

Personally, I'd just go for the i5/8GB X1C now and not waste any money on the Envy that you're going to be getting rid of anyways. I think the difference in the i7 will be pretty negligible compared to the i5. Part of me even doubts they'll use the i7/8GB combo if they aren't now. I could see them possibly doing it if they make a bigger change along with that though. That's just my opinion though.

I went ahead and ordered the i5/8GB/256GB and don't regret it at all. The i7 SOUNDS a lot better than it is compared to the i5 IMO. I think the 8GB ram over the 4GB is a bigger deal to me. I've always been fine with 4GB, but just wanted more to make sure its future proof. I'm also getting more into app development, so that might help. The 256GB storage was a must as 128GB wouldn't cut it for me. I've been fine with a 160GB but have also been pretty conservative.

Now if I could just get confirmation of a shipment from Lenovo.. Mine was expected to ship yesterday but I haven't heard anything.

 

Fail post edited. I'd go with the i5 config. I think the X1c is limited in its uses anyway, so having that i7 wont make it much better.

Also, I just ordered an i5/4GB model on 8/20, and the estimated ship date is 9/26. So it might be a while anyway

 

There is very little difference between i7 and i5 for mobile processors (less than for desktop processors). It is mostly Intel riding the price curve. Get the i5/8gb.

 

It's interesting that I thought the highlighted line is the most concise way I've seen yet, of why the i5 is the way to go in this case (at this point in time).

It is really true that the x1c is a machine built for a particular type of user -- non-gamers, road warriors, those who value lightness over the "over the top laptops", etc etc.

The build quality, the glass trackpad, the "more than sufficient/actually quite good though not the best" LCD screen, the understated, svelteness, rubberized finish, unbelievable keyboard...all goes to "help" those of us who value those traits to "need it".

 

FWIW, my estimated ship date is tomorrow, Aug 23rd. I ordered it on the 15th.

 

If my estimated ship date was the 21st and I haven't received confirmation, does that mean it hasn't been shipped? Just wondering since some of you have ordered from Lenovo before.

 

I ordered an i5/8GB/128GB on the 14th and mine was also supposed to ship yesterday but Lenovo hasn't sent me any confirmations either.

 

I'm on a T61 14" right now as a I type this running windows 8, anyone thinking about holding back until October for a windows 8 version/refresh?

 

You can check your order status here: Search Index

bert

 

YOu can order it with Windows 7 and get the Windows 8 upgrade from Microsoft for $14.99.

see Update: Microsoft confirms $15 Windows 8 upgrade - Computerworld

FWIW, I have Windows 8 running on two laptops that I don't use frequently - I'm not sure you'll like it once you get it! I plan on staying with Windows 7 on any computers I use daily! It's going to take a LONG time to get used to Windows 8 the way it is now, unless Microsoft gives-in and provides a more "classic" option. It may be good for tablets, but IMHO it's not very useful for a desktop/laptop without a touch screen - and I'm REALLY trying to like it!

bert

 

Every laptop is built with a specific user in mind.
Some Want a low budget, others a "super light", others a full-fledged desktop replacement, others a gaming laptop.

There is no way to built a machine that can do it all. If you put in high-powered CPUs, you will have little battery life, if you put in low-powered CPUs, you will have battery life but less CPU power etc.

This is a machine focussed on the road warrior. It is very powerful for that, but certainly no desktop replacement and CERTAINLY no gaming laptop. What the xxxx do you want to play with a an HD4000? Non of the modern games will play, besides some RTS on lower settings. It is not designed for that, otherwise they would have put a dedicated Nvidia card in. The current best desktop GPUs require up to 300W alone and the best laptop GPUs eg Nvidia 680M, require up to 200W peak powerl and about 140W whilst playing normal BF3. I have such a gaming laptop you cannot compare them to ANY of the Lenovo pieces, they have a power brick that weighs as much as the whole X1C and cooling that blows the table clean

So no, this is not a gaming PC, unless you want to play 6 year old games or some RTS, or casual flash games etc.

Here if you want some data about gaming PCs, look at the power:

"In our tests, the energy consumptions are 99-109 Watt (GTX 680M) vs. 106-131 Watt (HD 7970M) in 3DMark 06. The Nvidia model also works more economically in Battlefield 3 (126 vs. 143 Watt). Meanwhile, the maximum power draw amounts to 183 versus 200 Watt. While the notebook is idle with the dedicated graphics card inactive, the power consumption of both models become more identical at the 16-27 Watt range."

Review GeForce GTX 680M vs. Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

I guess BF3 will not even play on lowest settings with the native resolution.

Yes all these machines are very specialized. eg this one even comes without an ethernet port, no CDROM, only 2 USB etc, which will make some cringe. It's main thing is the 14 inch, the keyboard, the lightness and good power to do your normal office tasks. I think it is also pretty good in everything besides gaming graphics, that is exactly what it is bad in and which it has gladly, not been designed for. If you want a "lightweight" gaming machines, check the small Alienwares, they are nice, but ofc again a compromise.

 

Awesome news!

In the interest of preventing this thread from getting overwhelmed with shipping info I created a new thread for reporting order status and received dates:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thi...your-order-status-dates-here.html#post8800751