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    Thinkpad X220 Picture

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by lead_org, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    [​IMG]

    So basically the X220 will use the new Keyboard design that is seen on the post T400s thinkpads.

    Touchpad looks like one of those pressure sensitive version that does without the buttons.

    Not the X30x replacement design i was hoping, it is more in line with the X20x laptops, which is somewhat expected.

    Pictures of X220t are on page 8.
     
  2. vinuneuro

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    This design looks better on this than the T models imo.

    Thanks for posting it.
     
  3. vēer

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    Hmm, touchpad looks unusual, current X201 looks better, I hope its just picture angle or shock from seeing ThinkPad with HP's style clickpad :D
    Remember how almost everyone dissed HP's trackpads with integrated buttons?
    Couldnt say that the one Lenovo had in S10-3 was perfect either, at least judging by reviews.

    Edit. Nevermind, Im starting to love this thing :D!

    Edit2. Looks like it is going to be a tad bit wider than X200/X201? How come LG said they squeezed 12.5" into 11.6" form factor and looks like Lenovo couldnt do that with current X series, i mean, bezels on X series are huge!

    Edit3. Forget it, Im buying this/X221, I hope internals got even better uprade.
     
  4. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    Thinkpad can be squeezed into tight form factors, but that usually means the machine robustness will be compromised inorder to get a tighter fitting between parts.

    I think the X220 design looks quite polished and is not bad. It combined the positive attributes from both T4xx machines and the X20x machines.

    I am interested in the port options on this baby.

    P.S. I think the X220 keyboard is interchangeble between the T410/s, T510, W510 machines... which is neat and decreases inventory parts hold for Lenovo. The other thinkpad models will probably have the same touchpad design, would be interesting to see how good it is in real life.

    Also, hopefully the ribbed style touchpad surface on the T410/s are gone, it is not very comfortable to use for long periods of time.
     
  5. vēer

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    Considering that X has smaller touchpad due to less room on palmrest/chassis, I wouldnt count that rest of the family will get the same kind of touchpad.
    Well see :D
     
  6. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Hmmm, thanks for posting it, lead_org. It seems that (given the keyboard standard size and thinner vertical screen bezels) that it will indeed be something like 12.5'' laptop.
    I see no cover latch either...
     
  7. menos

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    These new are narrower comparing them to those in X200s...
     
  8. ThinkLover

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    Trading my soul for this. Anyone interested?
     
  9. vēer

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    Well, dimensions still allow to squeeze 12.5" screen without changing laptop width.
    Look at those big bezels on X200 series screen :D

    BTW, no screen latch? Perhaps this picture is photoshopped, just like that T400s picture was when it leaked first, it had 2 think lights and such. Same goes for touch pad, might have been 'shopped as well :D

    Either way it still looks good :D!
     
  10. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Call Jimmy Page :wink:
    Sure it does. I'm still loving my x200s, though...

    PS
    http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-63147.html - more pictures added.
     
  11. TSE

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    Not quite sure how that trackpad works.... It better not be like the HP Clickpads where there is no buttons and instead the trackpad "tilts" to the pressure of your hand.

    Or does it just use the buttons on the top?
     
  12. sapibobo

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    The lid, cam, thinklight and bezel design looks exactly the same with T410, albeit being smaller. Are all future thinkpads will use this design? Bye bye clamshell?
     
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    Any thoughts on where exactly these will be priced when announced?
     
  14. TSE

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    Probably around $1500, like the X201 was when it announced. Should be around $1200 around August from the back-to-school price drops.
     
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    Want badly. Core i5-2520M version with 6-cell please.
     
  16. turqoisegirl08

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    I'm excited and will wait to see how real world tests go with this first. I'm liking the picture but want to know:

    How will the touchpad buttons work now they are not physically there? I'm sort of liking how the touchpad area seems bigger than the X201/X200 touchpad. I'm guessing the influence of multi-gesturing is why.

    No lid latches? How [edited b/c it's too early in the morning to swear like a sailor ;)] is the lid going to stay shut? Read about people closing the lids on pens or foreign objects and cracking their screens. Not something anyone would want to do with something that costs a pretty penny!

    Screen. I wonder if the contrast and viewing angles will be improved?! There was a student in one of my classes last semester who sat in front of me with the glossiest HP consumer laptop. Her screen was vibrant and color was nice- albeit glossy surface.

    Still. I'm pretty much a Thinkpad gal. I like my blingy shiny things but want to be practical with my hardware :)
     
  17. vēer

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    I second about touchpad and lid latch.
    It reminds me of SL/L series ThinkPad without latch :D
    If there is NO latch mechanism neither classic one nor magnetic, then I suppose many people will be really mad at Lenovo for doing this to ThinkPad. Probably it will have a play within time after some usage, maybe even new X220's will have it quite loose, just like every other laptop without latch mechanism.
    On the other hand my girlfriends 2.5yo 12" TravelMate holds up pretty well without any latch and is sturdy enough and while being carried in sleeve doesnt posses any threat to random objects being stuck between laptop and lid.
     
  18. Leviathan7777

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    I feel like the only real improvement needed (aside from better guts) was a better display, an HDMI port and a thinner main chasis -- though the pics don't show this new model's thickness.

    Still think I'll hold on to my on-order x201.
     
  19. menos

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    Well, imagine now that new ThinkPads will sport IPS-like displays (which, IMHO, is now more likely than it used to be - they can be cheaper as more and more tablets become equipped with these screens)...
    :wink:
     
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    Thank you for the post. The X220 looks awesome but I echo the same concern about the trackpad and the latch like the previous posts.

    The X120e and the X201 are looking more attractive to me now.

    But I guess it's probably too early to render a verdict without looking at the overall performance as well as what I/O ports are included/changed. The worst thing would be that we would wait until X221 to have the trackpad mod and added latch mechanism installed after much complaint from customers. :D
     
  21. TSE

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    So the X220 is going to be released sometime during CES?
     
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    I would have thought they would have mentioned it by now if they were...
     
  23. LegendaryKA8

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    I was really considering this. I really, really, really was. However, at least for now the lack of a screen latch would be a major no-go for me. Makes and act far more like a consumer notebook, and I'd be way too afraid of the lid flopping open when carrying it or stuffing it into a bag. I'm also not really digging the 16:9 format, but there's nothing that can really be done about that, unfortunately. :/

    Those big gripes aside, there are some design elements I think will be very nice, though. I do like the addition of the T410/510-style keyboard, and the keyboard is still staying full-sized. The touchpad doesn't really concern me as I don't use touchpads anyway.
     
  24. vinuneuro

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    Is it really 16:9? If that's the case for the rest of the lineup too I'm most likely done with future Thinkpad's and will have to stick with something through the current gen models.
     
  25. vinuneuro

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    Unless maybe screen quality is a giant leap over my T400's LG panel.
     
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    It looks so from at least the angles in the pictures. The palmrest looks shorter than my X200's, and the screen bezel from top and bottom seems to be a bit 'taller' than the same portions on the X200. :/
     
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    Blame the LCD manufacturers for the new ratio.
     
  28. Jayayess1190

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    Yes it really is, the new Dell Latitude E6220 will also have a 12.5" screen.
     
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    not overly concerned w/the lack of a latch, i'll wait to see the reviews to get a more informed opinion. i have a good deal of faith in lenovo engineering & innovation; if they think it's robust enough to have the thinkpad name and doesn't need latches, maybe it'll be fine.

    the touchpad sans buttons might be a concern...traditionally, these type of touchpads don't hold up well in the long term and even though i spend most of the time using the trackpoint, i'm concerned about the durability.

    it's ironic that with the x201, lenovo finally added a long-desired touchpad to the x-series, only to now take a step backward (imo) with the new touchpad re-design. i'll be looking closely at the size of the screen and the resolution options...this is a key area for me.

    overall, unless the refresh has significantly better battery life or an incredibly better display (i do dislike 16:9 though)...i'll likely stock up on an extra x201 instead. as i use my x201 more and more, i'm coming to the realization that the x201 might be the finest and most useable x-series thinkpad (based on a combination of weight, size, battery life, and cpu power) and i was an avowed 4:3 lover before getting one. ;)
     
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    Why did they remove the latches on the new models(t410/t510)?
     
  31. Pylon757

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    T410? They didn't.
     
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    I guess it was only the t410s then. Anyways why did they remove it on that?
     
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    It's good thing is has a vent on the back. Does that mean display has less vertical space than the x201?
     
  35. oct

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    T510 still has them...
     
  36. LegendaryKA8

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    Thanks for showing those pictures. Drat... admittedly it's extremely tempting due to the onboard DP and USB 3.0... and the Sandy Bridge integrated graphics are supposed to have more punch than my T500's HD3650. I'll definitely wait and see on this one. Shame it likely has 16:9 and is missing the display latches. :/

    Edit: Does anyone else notice what I'm seeing? The original pic that lead_org posted makes it look like the X220 has a little recessed area along the front edge of the notebook, right where the latch catch and SD reader is on the X200. However, it looks like the SD reader has relocated to the right side of the X220? Interesting...
     
  37. vinuneuro

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    Wow. I like it all now except the aspect ratio. It looks thinner than the X200/X201 too.

    Are you serious that Sandy Bridge graphics is better than the 3650? According to notebookcheck the 3650 is up to 2x better than my 3470 depending on benchmark!

    Is the latchless design that bad? I didn't even such a thing existed until this thread :)o), but if it's used on Thinkpads we should be confident they've made it robust enough. Also not concerned about the touchpad since I never use it.

    Frankly I can't wait to see the T410s replacement whether it's at CES or a few months from now.
     
  38. talin

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    If it does indeed have USB 3.0 (I can see the blue port in the pics), I may just get it when it comes out. I'm still mad at Intel though. :rolleyes:
     
  39. oct

    oct Notebook Evangelist

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    Famous last words.... you would be surprised.

    - old T61p nvidia gpu issues
    - not so farT400 keyboard flex issues
    - recent W510 heat problems...
    - X220 lid latches? :)
     
  40. ckx

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    Hmm.


    1. New keyboard - Good
    2. DisplayPort - Good
    3. USB 3.0 - Good
    4. Combo audio port - Good (may be subjective)
    5. No eSATA port - Disappointing (a little)
    6. New battery - Could be interesting
    7. New dock - Could be interesting
     
  41. LegendaryKA8

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    Key word being supposed. Not many people have gotten their hands on the new Sandy Bridge integrated setup, although there may be some discrepancies. Here's a preview by the folks from Notebookcheck: Review Intel HD Graphics 3000 graphics solution - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    I just read it myself, and it looks like the HD3650 edges it out in some tests. I know that my T500 handles MW2 on high settings to my satisfaction, while the SB GMA doesn't seem to do so well. Like all GPUs, your mileage will definitely vary. Also, keep in mind that the test rig for the SB integrated graphics is running a pretty hefty quad-core... that could account for some extra performance.
     
  42. vinuneuro

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    Ah, I meant chassis construction. It has mostly been exceptional in Thinkpads (except maybe my T41 that had the common gpu failure due to chassis flex). If a simple keyboard swap from my T60 hadn't fixed the T400's flex that'd be included too. :)
     
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    The trackpad look weird, I hope it work better than the Hp one or the G460. I am not going to use it, but it will totally reduce the resale value. I hope it work just as well as the macbook one. Even though you only have a small zone for right click, it work out perfectly with mac.
     
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    I guess Lenovo has finally acknowledged that dial-up is dead...even for the business user.... :)
     
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    :spinny:

    The looks aren't that different from X200 though. Just minor changes. I am far more interested into specific hardware they will be putting in.
     
  46. lead_org

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    The 56 k modem port was missing on t400s and x30x too. The x220 now looks more like t410, t510, etc.
     
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    Just curious- is there any info regarding release/availability of the x220?
     
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    None. Only info right now is those overseas pics.
     
  49. TSE

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    Couple questions:

    -What are the chances of the CPU being not soldered so we can upgrade to Ivy Bridge? I'd imagine not very big.

    -Is that an HDMI port I'm seeing? :)

    Going to have to decide between this and the Sony Vaio Z successor this summer.
     
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    Do you think that's the main reason for soldering it?
     
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