Thinkpad addiction?

The first ThinkPad I bought was the x41t, since it was a tablet I went and got the x31. Since that one was too slow for me I got the T410s. I've been pretty good at not buying ThinkPads, but for some reason I keep making excuses to buy more ThinkPads. I have to admit not buying a T61 is difficult and it's even more difficult to not go for the x220 or the x120e. Can one be addicted to ThinkPads I've never heard such a thing?

 

LOL. You have come to the wrong place to ask. Everyone here is in denial.

 

Not lead_org

 

Like all addicts, I declare that I am in no way addicted to thinkpad.

 

Hahahahhahahaha.


I never bought a Thinkpad myself sadly, but I prefer to "course style" my laptops the french way, meaning a different laptop brand each 3-5 years.


Looking forward to find a good deal on a Thinkpad.

 

Hahaha okay I reword that, lead_org is a fanatic. He has so many ThinkPads he couldn't fit it into his signature.

I really wish I had the money for a couple more ThinkPads but dying car unfortunately has me saving for a new one.

 

Maybe it is time to trade in the Dell for the thinkpads of your dream.

 

Hahaha I know right. I like all my Latitudes though. I just like business notebooks in general. The last consumer notebook that I really "used" was an Inspiron 6000 back in 2005.

 

Being at step 1 of the 12 step TA (thinkpad addiction) I admit I am powerless over my thinkpad addiction, therefore I will likely buy lots more in the future! Heres to staying at step 1.

This is the overall addiction. I have always been a fan of business class notebooks, but just in the past few months there is NO PLACE for consumer notebooks in my life. Shame as I loved my XPS.

 

I think that most people if they are on this forum can say they are addicted to something with technology, my wife always bugs me for being so into technology and doing things with it.

I am on my 2nd thinkpad, the old one went to her (x301) so I dont think she is complaining anytime soon ...

However I can see where you are coming from, since I have found my addiction to the legendary "IBM" keyboard, I now have talked other people into getting a thinkpad as well... (total of 4 in my immediate family use thinkpads)

 

So that's why the book is called tabook!!!

 

For me, my addiction to Thinkpad is the simple, classic design. I was using my T410 and my friend commented on how it was old school even though it was last year's model. I do have many complaints about my T410 but that's mostly a weak battery life compared to MBPs.

 

actually it's called the ThinkPad Personal Systems Reference Sheets.   "tabook" comes from ThinkPad, all models, book.

IBMers always called it the PSREF Sheets or just "the Sheets."   everyone online seems to call it "tabook" though.   to be honest, it's a little weird.

 

Unless Lenovo steps down on quality or doesnt improve it if new models lack it, I will probably get in the future X series or T series, either of which will be premium models such as slim or comparable. You know, like X220 with IPS or X201s or T4x0s are now, something from that part of TP portfolio in future.
Why? Because I would like it to be premium model so I can use it for years on and still have decent battery life, productivity, mobility, higher build quality and lower weight and superiority as well
IMO premium models are worth the extra money spend if its either work issued or bought to be used for 3+ years. If one buys laptop to get rid of it within year or barely two, then IMO its useless to spend hundreds more on something you wont be using that much anyway, unless you have lots of cash to throw out on such habits.
Either that or get EOL model and be oldschool Loved R400 becaus of that

 

I approve everything you have said.

To me, when I use a laptop for many years, I love and like using them even more by each year.

 

I neglected to add a sign after my "revelation"! But thanks for the explanation, erik. I always go to the PSREF page to download "the book." The older versions (of discontinued models) are also available!

Well, the Lenovo URL says tabook: www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf

 

What is "EOL model"?

 

EOL = End Of Life = remainder stock after production discontinuation.

 

Coming from a true thinkpaddict.

 

Same way I feel about my thinkpads and Jeep!

Thats what I just did! EOL or bust!

 

Yeah, I loved how the X200 series looked but since I never had laptop before and especially never before used one without trackpad and with trackpoint as only navigation device I was sort of put off by it. Especially when X201 series with trackpad came out, made it look even sweeter with trackpad
Somehow I ended up with R400 as my first laptop, was too sweet of a deal to pas up and wait for months before X200 reaches acceptable price level.

 

IMO, the Vostro 1500/1700 can't really be considered a business laptop. I had a 1500, it was a rebadged Inspiron 1520.

 

Hey hey hey way to rub it in.

Though I did look at the Inspiron 1520, but it came with Vista Home Premium back in August 07 and XP Professional was +100 bucks more. The Vostro 1500 started at 450, so I upgraded the battery, Wifi card and other goodies and brought it up to 900 dollars.

 

Hi, I'm Halobox and I'm a ThinkPadoholic.

 

Oh that's ridiculous. No one can be addicted to Thinkpads.

*walks away from Thinkpad nonchalant.*

*thud* *body spasms violently*

must....not.....leave.....Thinkpad.....

 

@jaakobi, you are suffering a classic case of Thinkpad withdrawal syndrome. Don't worry just stay next to the thinkpad, you will be alright.

Where is my precious.....

 

hahahha

 

My precious

 

My very crudely done MS Paint skillz

 

Back to topic: Why buying many Thinkpad when one is sufficient?

I mean, they're too sturdy to buy many Thinkpads, even when newer models with updated specs are released, chances that you don't need most of those specs.

 

Very good question! Baffles me too! I agonized over this when ordering for the x201. I think having 2 machines can be justified (perhaps already at a stretch), but more than that...?

One way, I suppose I could find myself at the end of the day with a number of ThinkPads because I don't like selling my old machines and I have not really given away any. Currently, there are none to give away because I have old laptops that don't work and that just take up space. Don't know how to recycle them at my location. The other could be if I had a lot of money (which I don't) and I wanted to set up a ThinkPad collection for personal gratification.

 

Even a Thinkpad doesn't stay new forever. I've been toting a Thinkpad for over ten years now - my original 560X, bought when it was already considered old, probably lasted for 4-5 of those years. Eventually, I just needed new hardware. My X41 simply wasn't cutting it for running multiple virtual machines, heavy duty computing - things that benefit from my new dual core I7. My older ones stick around as backup, or are re-purposed - I've always got tons of low priority computing projects that an older system can tackle with ease, things that I won't want to do on the system I rely on for work, school, or important projects. My aging X41, for example, is my Ubuntu Unity/Gnome 3 test bed rig. The other Thinkpads in my collection have found tasks as well.

Occasionally I do have a purpose for a specific unit - I've been weighing the options between buying a W701ds or a desktop for my home Linux workstation, and the W series is a rather attractive option - I get a decent 17 inch LCD, a secondary monitor to stash terminal windows in, all in one form factor, multiple hard drive bays, and some mobility thrown in as a nice bonus. I'm a longtime X series fan for the portability, since I always have a computer on me, so the W won't fill that need.

Finally, sometimes a Thinkpad is just worth collecting. The X300/X301 is a machine that any Thinkpad user will lust after, and when they are cheap enough to fit my budget - and flooding ebay quickly enough - I see no reason not to snag one for nostalgia's sake.

 

First owned ThinkPad was an X200, but gave it to my spouse when I got a T410. Then a friend upgraded to a T410s and offered me his X301. s30 came in next for cheap.

Another ThinkPad might cross my path soon.

 

What I mean is that some here buys a 2010 model near its release date back then and right now already starts to buy one of those 2011 line because it's more "powerful" but in reality, most aren't using it fully.

It's like a french woman wardrobe, changed every season.

I must agree with the X-series, particularly the X201 and X220, those are sexy beasts.

Thanks to you, I am considering either one of them.

 

ThinkPadophilia


Sick creepy mutant bunny rabbits



(Damn, its even too close to the real bad philia when read aloud )

 

You just made me accidentally say thinkpadophilia in front of my mother, trying to figure out what you were implying there.

 

LOL
Hope your mom has good sense of humor, else shell be worried about her son

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Well, I have a ThinkPad, my wife has one, kids have their own.
Best friends of mine also have them... so do my colleagues.
I think it could be a kind of transmissible disease...
:wink:

 

I fell in love with trackpoints when i first saw them in the early 90s. Never once hated them and like I do for thinkpads yearned for one. Touchpads on the other hand I have hated since day 1. When the first touchpads came to market I admit I was excited. But as soon as I got to the store and tried one out it was HATE from first sight.

So Ill admit the x200s grew on me alot faster then the t400 did. Dont get me wrong I love the t400, but that stupid touchpad takes up space and detracts from the notebooks looks a bit. I wish there was a palmrest without the touchpad I could put on my t400...

No. The vostro 1500/1700 are usiness notebooks. The inspirons are the business copies. My vostro 1700 is a tank and I woul pit it against the toughest thinkpads ANYDAY.

There are those of us that require more then one computer. My t400 sits at home as a server while the x200s goes everywhere with me. While I could feasibly own only 1 thinkpad and be fine, it would cause alot of heartburn for both my wife and I. lets say Im still at the office and she needs to backup her data or wants to watch a movie. Well she would have to wait until I got home and docked the thinkpad so that was possible. Plus I would have to be tethered to my desk most nights so our network is more then a hotspot.

Now if only I had a quad core w700ds I could have a more robust network at home. But then again I could just keep the XPS if I wanted that.

That is the problem with alot of people they are never satisfied. I used to be one of them, but now Im reformed. I realized that I no longer need the latest and greatest or even anything close to it. I was never on the bleeding edge or bought top technology, but over the last 2 years I have bought way too many computers.

Glad to have come to the realization and glad I consolidated down to 2.

 

agree with sphinx. it's the keyboard and the trackpoint that turn me into thinkpad addict. have a few thinkpad junk at home. My 1st thinkpad that i buy is Lenovo T61 . Now is at ICU with nvidia issue. 2nd one i bought is IBM T43. now im using it happily . I also have IBMT23 at home working perfectly.

still nothing compared to lead_org thinkpad burger.

Peace

 

The trackpad and the look is what turn me into a thinkpad addict. Once you get a hold of these machine, you don't want to part with them. Using anything else will leaving feeling like there is something missing.

 

Love the thinkpad look, but I hate the touchpad look. I find my x200s more attractive then the t400 because its less cluttered with just a trackpoint.

 

Thinkpad my love...


I am starting to get insane, need your help THINKPAD!

 

Thinkpads have the best trackpoint. I've seen the Dell Latitude E6400 trackpoint, and it's too finicky, something just seems off when using it. I actually use trackpad most of the time, but I love having both because I can use either for specific purposes. Word/Excel/Powerpoint it's better to use trackpoint, while trackpad is better for webbrowsing, opening files, etc.

I hope Dell has improved their trackpoint on the new Latitudes and Precisions, I haven't seen HP's though so I don't know how good theirs is on the Elitebooks (no trackpoint on the Probooks right?

 

well, I am addicted to TP too.. I have a T60 C2D and a X61. I love both of them to death. I had recommend more than 15 friends and relatives in buying TP. So far, nobody had complained. Since I got my T60, I haven't use my C2Q desktop much that I used daily. I'm now on verge of getting a 510. No wonder Lenovo is gaining business while HP and Acer is losing market share!

 

I blame the amazing trackpoint for my addiction..I NEVER use the trackpad at all..and friend's look at me when i try to use the trackpad and like..what?...aren't you good with a trackpad?..no..i never use it..what ya use then?..this little red dot..HHHHUUUHHHH?

 

me too
T410 - desktop replacement
X301 - mobile
s30 - relaxed browsing

 

Acer has restructured itself, it is actually gaining market share from the HP, Dell and Lenovo in the computing industry by offering cost effective IT solutions. None of these three companies seem to have any real answers to the competition put forward by Acer.

While, on the business side of business, HP are doing quite well, so is Dell in some regions. Lenovo is gaining in some markets, while it is probably also losing in some markets. It will be a while, before Lenovo could oust Dell from the third spot, while there is a real chance that HP will be ousted from the no. 1 position by Acer.

However, i still like Thinkpads since the design is consistent and does not follow the whim of others.

 

Acer will never have business' consideration as their part availability is WOEFUL at best. In fact, we have had Acer models in manufacturer warranty where Acer could not source parts. You can still get HP/Lenovo/Dell parts from like 6-7 years ago. Getting pre-Acer Gateway parts? Good luck.

Also why Sony and Toshiba will never be considered for big coporations, their part availability is nowhere near the big 3.

 

Acer has a different support structure for big businesses, and they are improving in many ways in order to gain businesses from traditional HP, Dell, Lenovo customers. Competition can come from anywhere and it will be prudent for the other Tier One corporations to take heed of the threats posed by Acer.

6 years ago Acer was in a decline, their business expansion has only started in earnest over these 3 years, so give them a bit of time.

Acer have two advantages that the other 3 tier one competitor lacks,

-They are more integrated with the contract manufacturing side of business, due to the fact that they previously owned Wistron (whom also manufactures Thinkpads).

-They have a lower cost base then HP, Dell or Lenovo, so they can offer their products and services at a lower price than the competitors.

Obviously, the other three can respond by working closer with their supply chain channel partners and also cut any redundancies within their businesses
units. Furthermore most of the other three companies are outsourcing their businesses where they can, or shifting their labour intensive backoffice work to countries whom have lower labour cost.

When i was in China, i was noticing that Lenovo has increased hiring of new Chinese university graduates to work on foreign portfolios or business units. So that means that lot of backoffice jobs are shifted to countries with lower wages, in order to remain profitable even when the revenues are constant.