Thinkpad screens are so bad

Why are thinkpad screens so bad. I would love a widescreen T series especially if it had a 15.4 UXGA like the new T61p but they just seem so dull. Are the even offering Flexiview anymore? Who thinks they will eventuall fo LED?

 

Eventually everyone's going to be offering LED-backlit screens. Sony has already been offering them for a while on machines like the SZ and T series. Dell recently introduced them with the xpsm1330. Apple is now using 15.4" LED-backlit screens, and has said they will be moving the rest of their LCD's to LED-backlighting. I believe HP has also committed to moving to LED-backlighting.

 

happy with mine (lg)

 

I'm pretty satisfied with mine as well. For what it's worth I think the 14" wxga+ matte finish screens used on the thinkpads are just as good as any other computer manufacturers.

 

I think the t61 14 wxga+ screen is much better then the screen on a dell d630 I have seen. I have the LG. It is very bright. I found out pretty early on, that the bios by default doesn't allow the screen to be set as bright on battery as it does when plugged in, but this can be disabled. Anyway, it is a very good screen, not perfect, but no major complaints here.

 

I find that on most laptop screens today, whether it be Dell, HP, Sony, etc...you HAVE to crank up the saturation. NVIDIA calls it "digital vibrance" for example.

 

The remaining 15" FlexViews are being phased out.
LED's are the future.

 

My brother has the t60p and its a great laptop. I just think for surfing the net and movies it could be a brighter but in terms of performance and relaibility I dont think you can fault the thinkpad brand.

 

Your brother's laptop has the FlexView screen which is a rarity.

 

I don't really see the importance of your monitor needing to be so bright for surfing the web. For movies I agree, this screen is probably too dull. Then again who really wants to be watching movies on a 14" or 15" screen. On the occassions that you do watch a movie on it I think I could deal with the screen not being so bright.

If brightness is so important for you then go with a glossy screen laptop. I kind of wanted the brighter screen myself but HP didn't offer the wxga+ screen on the dv2500 and the higher resolution was more important to me.

 

I think the issue is with viewing angle more so than just brightness. The new 14" screens on the T61s have 220 nits, which is pretty bright, but (on my screen anyway) it is very noticeably unevenly lit - tilting the screen even a little causes different areas to desaturate.

I cannot understand why Lenovo cannot use the same screens as Sony or Apple? Anyone know who manufacturs the Apple screens? They are great.

 

Actually the IPS technology (flexview) is superior and it's still available to custom corporate orders. The problem is not demand but rather supply and cost. Blame the HDTV boom. HDTV is getting the good stuff, and we're left with crappy stuff for the notebook.

I'm sure that eventually it'll somehow get better, because a lot of ppl are disappointed so the market should adjust to that opportunity in time

 

I think it depends on your needs. One of the main reasons I bought the T60 or a Thinkpad was I wanted a good matte finish screen that had decent sized text for a 14 incher, (and a XGA standard screen and awesome keyboard, ok several reasons). I have to admit, I almost stuck with Apple and got the macbook or this new Sony I had seen in a bestbuy with this beautiful back lighting but I find this thinkpad screen much easier on my eyes to look at for any period of time consider how close we are to the monitor. But that was my needs, if I try to watch a movie on it on a plane I guess I'll see how much I enjoy it. I find the nits enough (it's a samsung, I like it, no dead pixels, maybe a little leakage on the top barely visible only under certain web pages and a nearly impossible to see baby thumb print behind the monitor on the left side, maybe a coating error or someone touched the panel before placing it in or it's that sparkling thing they are talking about.) I'm pretty particular but everything seems very even on the screen.

 

I made the transition from matte to glossy and back to matte. I just can't stand seeing myself on the glossy screen all the time.

 

I agree, i would definitely drop an additional 100-200 bucks for a better quality screen.

 

LED screens offer superior brightness, power efficiency and reliability - all very important factors in the laptop world.

 

But in comparison TN suffers terrible harshness, color inaccuracy, washout, contrast, glare and viewing angles. Though IPS has slow response times.

IPS isn't unique to select hi-end thinkpads... the very best models of some other laptop brands have offered it too.

 

I think the response time craze of the gaming notebooks aren't helping with IPS panel demands either. It seems like the screen manufacturers just throw a layer of gloss on a TFT panel and call it a notebook screen, basically covering up any problems with it.

I think IPS is just going to continue to become a rarity, like what Skibunny said, as long as HDTV manufacturers use them up its going to be hard to get one. Even the desktop segment has a hard time getting a IPS panel until you get to the 600 dollar 24 inch range.

The only thing I think thats coming up to help is the LED backlights and thats about it. I kinda wished I could of waited for them to come but with school coming up I couldn't.

I also wish they would move up to 8 bit panels rather then cheap out and using dithering to simulate the colors on 6 bit panels.

 

it is because you have a 15.4 screen. hahah hahahah you should think of changing to a 14.1 inche that is the best screens you have lg and samsungs screens

mine is a lg