If the Transportation Dept could not even get Toyota to recall their cars earlier I think the Nvidia fiasco is hopeless.
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Well toyota is recalling 400 000 of its cars, but recalling a car for its breaking problems is more reasonable than making nvidia order all manufacturers to withdraw their laptops which contain nvidia chips...
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Toyota Recall is for safety issue, and Nvidia recall would be for quality issue, which does not relate to safety. Also Nvidia has already paid up, which basically relieves them of any legal obligation for this GPU failure, the Onus is all on the Computer/Laptop/Parts manufacturers now... whom have to foot all the bill of the repair and brand image damage.
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thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity
Ethically speaking nVidia is in huge debt in that department... but who cares about ethics these days? It's capitalism.
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Toyota's recall involves either A: replacing a floormat, B: adding a piece of metal to the brake pedal mechanism, or C: reprogramming the braking system of the Prius, none of which are extremely time or cost intensive repairs. Nvidia GPU fixes would involve replacing the motherboard of millions of laptops, which will cost much, much more.
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"Ethically speaking nVidia is in huge debt in that department... but who cares about ethics these days? It's capitalism."
I pray that was a joke.
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i am pretty sure that Nvidia only paid for the GPU, and the laptop manufacturers pay for the rest of the stuff on the motherboard, labour, courier and backlash from customers.
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thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity
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He was being facetious.
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In either case, one or the other would have to foot the immense cost of a new motherboard and the labor to replace it (which is quite labor-intensive), making large-scale repair pretty costly.
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this is why some companies are reluctant to say that the Nvidia GPU used in their laptop is faulty.
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Which is exactly what happened to me with my former Dell Inspiron E1705 when it started to have issues with overheating and I traced it back to the video card. When I called Dell, they refused to fix it, saying there was no problem, and he said if there were widespread overheating issues they'd know about it.
That was just a couple months before the whole Nvidia fiasco came to light. I'm so glad I got rid of it. Funny how just recently I saw a post in the Dell subforum that Dell has released a BIOS update for that model to help remedy (or rather, delay) the heat problem (all it does is increase the default fan speed).
I'll never go with Dell again, that's for sure.
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Dell and HP released a bios fix which ramp up the fan speed, which is basically is them trying to stretch the life of the laptop past their 3 years warranty coverage... after which not only your GPU is gone, but also the fan (which is not covered under the 3 year extended warranty and cost you a small fortune to replace in their depot outside of warranty).
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Exactly. I edited my post before it had a chance to update when you quoted me.
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"Ethically speaking nVidia is in huge debt in that department... but who cares about ethics these days? It's capitalism."
I pray that was a joke.
Renee
Nope... Splain' to me please"
Capitalism invites and emphasizes greed. We've had enough greed. We need to begin thinking about each other.
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And that is relevant to a notebook forum, how?
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Which is why Lenovo, Dell and HP has developed negative brand equity. Also the SATA fiasco sticks in the minds of some TP users.
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thinkpad knows best Notebook Deity
We have? i seriously doubt that we've reached the tipping point of such an affluent society yet. Soon, but not now. Who is genuinely sincere about anything anymore? Whether it has to do with ethics or morals. -
can anyone elaborate on the gpu fiasco?
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It's not limited to Lenovo. Industrywide.
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It's not limited to Lenovo. Industrywide. Also well documented if you would take some initiative.
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Accidental double post there Mr. KL.
You can pursue Nvidia's financials too BrokenArrow. Manufacturing process QC issues.
Toyota Recall Relative to Nvidia GPU
Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Mr.KL, Feb 9, 2010.