The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Turbo Memory + SSD

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by spesler, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. spesler

    spesler Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I recently installed an SSD and did a clean install of Windows. ReadyBoost was then automatically disabled, which I understand is a good thing as the SSD is faster than the Turbo Memory.

    Based on the attached screen shot, it looks like ReadyDrive is enabled, and is using 2GB of my SSD. Am I understanding that correctly? Is this what I want to be happening?
     

    Attached Files:

  2. realwarder

    realwarder Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    128
    Messages:
    322
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    That screenshot is just showing the driving being used, which is installed on the C drive.

    Using Turbo memory together with an SSD would probably slow things down... SSD performance is so high that adding another process and set of drivers to keep reading and writing data to another flash drive (the Turbo Memory) is probably slower than just letting Windows 7 use the SSD.
     
  3. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    if you have a ssd
    you're probably best to just physically remove the turbo memory module
     
  4. spesler

    spesler Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I would like to leave the turbo memory module installed because I'll pull the SSD if I ever upgrade or sell the computer. I've already opened the case enough times for my own comfort, and would just as soon not mess with it.

    Sorry if I'm being tedious, but I'm still unclear on two points.

    I understand that ReadyBoost should be disabled, but ReadyDrive is what I'm wondering about. If it is caching (cacheing?) on the SSD, I suspect that it may be beneficial. I don't know whether this is true, or worse, if it is trying to use the Turbo Memory.
     
  5. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    might as well remove it and keep it in a drawer somewhere
    right now all it is doing is adding weight and drawing power
     
  6. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    793
    Messages:
    2,876
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Can you disable it in bios?
     
  7. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    525
    Messages:
    2,223
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Nope.

    I uninstalled/disabled it on one install of Win7 and physically removed it in another. Honestly, I didn't notice a difference at all on the T400s with the 1.8" Samsung SSD so I don't think it matters all that much. Might be different in other models with quicker SSD's.

    If it bothers you, uninstalling the software is a bit messy, but doable and gets the job done. Just get the regular Intel Storage Manager package from the Intel site. You'll need to install it after removing the "Intel Storage Manager and Intel Turbo Memory" one from Add/remove Programs. I uninstalled the regular Intel Turbo Memory app first. After the reboots, disable the Unknown Device in device manager and windows update should ignore it.

    You know you are good when the 1.37 GB primary partition in Disk Management is gone. Can't readyboost from something that isn't there.

    Once again, I didn't notice any difference with the module in or out/software intact or removed.

    If you want to get fancy, you can replace the Turbo module with a wireless USB card. Check your model for the FRU #.

    Here's a decent link showing what changes to make in Win7 for SSD's. Take from it what you will: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67056
     
  8. hceuterpe

    hceuterpe Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    111
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If Turbo Memory were all that, Intel would keep it in the latest chipset. Except there's no sign of it, yet Intel is now dabbling in SSD technology.
    ReadyBoost was supposed to speed up HDD based systems due to the inherent latency with any rotating platter based HDD.
    Assuming Intel ain't BS'ing, their newest SSD have a latency that's less than a 1/60 of the fastest traditional 2.5" HDDs @ 7200RPM.
    So I bet you can guess why they ditched Turbo Memory ;)

    Sorry but if you have a decently fast SSD, there's really no use for your TM stick...
     
  9. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    525
    Messages:
    2,223
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    It was a great concept when spinners were the only drive option. Poorly implemented and horrible timing. NAND got cheap really fast and it's hard to accelerate a drive that already uses the same chips for all of it's storage.

    Probably gave them some experience to put into their own SSD's though. Intel came out strong with the X series.
     
  10. AndrzejS

    AndrzejS Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    :D..." It is not recommended to use Intel Turbo Memory in a system with a SSD drive.
    It would be ideal to remove the Intel Turbo Memory module from the system,
    if SSD drive is used. Refer the hardware maintenance manual.
    Or set to disable Intel Turbo Memory as follows.
    Start Intel Turbo Memory Console.
    Uncheck "Enable Windows ReadyBoost" and "Enable Windows ReadyDrive"
    ...
    from
    Intel Turbo Memory Driver for Windows 7 and Vista
    - ThinkPad Reserve Edition, R61, R400, R500, T61, T61p, T400, T400s,
    T500, W500, W700, W700ds, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet,
    X200, X200s, X200 Tablet, X300, X301
    http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-67820
    Version: 1.10.1.1002-8.9.2.1002 Release Date: 2009/11/30
    7zin85ww.exe 10,283,560 Intel Turbo Memory Driver
    7zin85ww.txt 12,654 README for Intel Turbo Memory Driver
    Document id: MIGR-67820 Last modified: 2009-12-04
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015
  11. spesler

    spesler Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Thanks. I went ahead and uninstalled the Turbo Memory driver, too. Interestingly, it now shows up as an unknown device in device manager, but still up in disk manager. If only there was a creative way to use that 2gb...