Upgrade to 120Hz panel in Y520...possible?

Title says. If possible, what panel model would you suggest? I'm considering to do it after the warranty period ends. My current LG panel has some ghosting in fast paced games like CSGO and has OKish contrast which makes dark spots sometimes can be hard to see.

 

Your card and CPU are really really meh, so you don't see 120fps anyways, I'd suggest going for a bright and good 60hz panel instead. Will make the games run smoother.

but to your question:
@t456 As the lord of panels.

 

I play CSGO and DOTA 2 at low-mid settings, always get 120+FPS.

 

I don't know about CS:GO but I can guarrantee you that you will not have stable 120fps in dota 2 unless you play on low 720p shadows off. Teamfights kill the FPS on your CPU.

 

I'm aware of this, however I'm still going for a 120Hz panel.

 

Run MonInfo and copy/paste the ' Raw data' section. We'll then check for a nice, compatible panel.

 

Is this correct:

Raw data
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,30,E4,33,05,00,00,00,00,00,1A,01,04,95,22,13,78,EA,A1,C5,94,59,57,8F,27,
20,50,54,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,2E,36,80,A0,70,38,1F,40,30,20,
35,00,58,C2,10,00,00,1A,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,FE,00,4C,
47,20,44,69,73,70,6C,61,79,0A,20,20,00,00,00,FE,00,4C,50,31,35,36,57,46,36,2D,53,50,4B,33,00,BF

Note: I adjusted some display colours, if that helps

 

Yes, perfect. It's an LP156WF6-SPK3.

Either of these two would be great:

• Chi-Mei N156HHE-GA1
• AUO B156HTN05.1

The Chi-Mei beats the AUO on almost every aspect though, so try to find that one first. Same lcd was swapped by the OP in this thread, apparently with satisfactory results:
Alienware 15 R2 gtx 980m Maxed out : not a good screen ---> swap

Make sure to read the bits about ordering panel; there's some caveats on ' compatible' and ' panel for' in the fine-print. The OP included a link for his source of an actual GA1, so you might order one from the same supplier.

Mind that you'll probably loose brightness control in Windows, this being a Lenovo system; panels are whitelisted in the bios on many of their systems and this aftermarket panel will certainly not be in that list. There's a workaround, involving soldering, but then the Y520 also needs to have a 120Hz panel whitelisted. If there isn't one then you'd get a 60Hz in return, kinda defeating the purpose.

 

Alright, thanks! What do you mean by this:

Also, do you have any IPS 120Hz panel suggestions?

 

That flashing a 60Hz edid to a 120Hz panel will result in losing standard 120Hz, of course. It's still capable, but you'll have to use something like CRU instead (which works by acting as an edid-override).

Sure, but wasn't it your original aim to get rid of ghosting? You have an IPS atm and ghosting is a side-effect of that technology.

 

Ok understand. Even IPS panels with 'fast enough' response times also has ghosting issue?

 

Some more than others; a few recent models suffer less, but a TN always beats them in this regard. For FPSs there's nothing like a high-fps, low-latency monitor. The GA1 also has an extensive gamut plus viewing angles very close to that of an IPS, close enough so you won't even notice the difference unless you look at the panel side-ways (...).

 

Do I need to calibrate the panel? I though most TN panels have blue tint due to high CCT?

 

Hi, can I get mined checked as well?

00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,0D,AE,D3,15,00,00,00,00,1A,19,01,04,95,22,13,78,02,28,65,97,59,54,8E,27,
1E,50,54,00,00,00,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,B4,3B,80,4A,71,38,34,40,50,36,
68,00,58,C1,10,00,00,18,00,00,00,FE,00,4E,31,35,36,48,43,45,2D,45,41,41,0A,20,00,00,00,FE,00,43,
4D,4E,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FE,00,4E,31,35,36,48,43,45,2D,45,41,41,0A,20,00,D8

I have a lenovo y720 and was wondering if this panel works https://www.aliexpress.com/item/B15...156HAN04-FHD-edp-30pin-120HZ/32853327211.html
Both this panel and mine is a 1920fhp 30pin edp panel and I was wondering if these are enough to determine if it is a compatible panel

 

It's a Chi-Mei N156HCE-EAA. And no, there's a few other parameters such as pin-pitch and connector location. That AUO is compatible though, but battery run time will be a little less due to its higher power consumption:
http://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=28558,36212,32204

 

Greetings. I will hijack this thread so I don't make same dubbed one.
I also have LP156WF6-SPK3 (Y520) And the time has come, I'm willing to change my screen for a better one.
And I was wondering is Chi-Mei N156HHE-GA1 still the better choice. And do you have a preferable site to buy it from?(to Europe)
And maybe something cheaper than 100 Euro, what can you suggest me?

Edit: I found this on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15-6-LAP...435082&hash=item1c94a360b8:g:gZAAAOSwPGlZ4HEw but it says finnlux, is that other name of Chi-Mei ??

 

It's the same company now; Innolux merged with Chi Mei.

And yes. There's a few other, newer models that are in the same corner, but they'll be even more expensive for a at least another year and, more importantly, that listing looks very promising; not 'fit for' or 'compatible', 'no dead pixels' specifically mentioned and it's covered. Since they sell it as an exact panel there's no problem returning it if they ship something else. Could sell the SPK3 for £40 if you don't need a backup.

 

Taking the thing 'TN bad - IPS good' How bad will be GA1 compared to my current SPK3?
I red some specifications and the GA1 beats my current in every single aspect, well only not in TN stuff but that's what I'm asking. Will there be a noticeable downgrade doing this upgrade?

 

No, because the 'TN bad, IPS good' is not true.

That yarn trumped-up because IPS-type was patented by a single manufacturer and found it's way only in high-end panels at first, whereas TNs were both high and low-end. Comparing a $20 TN to a $125 IPS then yes, obviously there's a big difference, but the only thing an IPS is better at is viewing angles and top-range TNs can reach almost* the same values yet won't suffer from the lag and ghosting that came with IPS technology.

Today there's also a few good IPS panels that can compare with TNs in that regard, so there's not so much reason anymore to pick one high-end over the other.

Spoiler: Almost*

The 'almost' because the last degrees are difficult, but you should try to remember when was the last time you looked at a screen from an 85° angle. That is, anything over 60-70° is useless anyway because you'll never, ever use it like that. Bit like those 'extras' on XKCD phones.

Btw, the 'bad TN' GA1 has actually better horizontal angles than the 'good IPS' SPK3. But, again; 12 heaphone jacks.

 

Thats more than enough information for me. I've never changed laptop screen, but I watched some videos how its done on mine, and I think I can do it myself.

Final words is it worth it? Taking in mind that I can benefit from those 120hz and lower response time.

 

I ended up oredering https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-15-6...692400?hash=item5d806ea130:g:bFYAAOSweApbcXiI But the title is confusing says 'panel LIKE' does that mean they can send me something else ?? Should I cancel right now and order the one i mentioned above?

 

If you're a gamer then certainly. Assuming the card can handle the extra Hz's then gameplay will be fluid where things were choppy before (in hindsight). Would think you'll notice the difference in gamut first of all though.

That'd be a good idea, you're likely to receive something else: ' An alternate compatible part number may be shipped'.

That's why that other listing was so unusual; not many sellers ship exact panels, most are offers for 'compatible' screens. Which is fine if you're replacing a broken one and couldn't care less about quality, but a bit of a let-down if you're thinking of upgrading.

 

Nasty... I should have paid attention to detail, I saw faster shipping and I ordered it.. Anyway I contacted the seller and now I'm waiting for his response, I hope he agrees tho..
How like is that I receive exactly the one I want?

 

Okay so the seller contacted me and said they have Chi-Mei exact product and they can send it, I confirmed it and Im gonna wait 1-2 weeks for it to come, and Ill post some updates Thanks for your help.

 

Okaay so the screen just arrived and I just installed it, everything wend good. 120Hz are present. One this is strange, the color, is there any optimized color profiles for this screen that I can use?

 

The only thing is to do a calibration, which is panel-specific and needs a colorimeter. Using a profile from someone else's calibration won't do much good; the panel series itself is already calibrated based upon an average batch from the production run, but the last details differ from panel to panel.

Hmm ... remember that your old SPK3 covered less than 60% of the sRGB spectrum whereas the GA1 does all 100% of it plus a significant part of Adobe RGB as well. Perhaps you just need to try it for a few weeks first. Recall that the first full Adobe RGB monitor really seemed far too red to me, but once you've used it for a while then everything else appears pale and dull by comparison. If, after two weeks or so, it still appears 'off' then dimply tinker with the colours in the graphics driver.

 

In my town there's a local calibration service, its 10 Euro for calibrating with some Spyder hardware. Should I go for it? And based on what does this calibration work?

 

It will create a profile that can be loaded to get a greater gamut and/or more accurate representation of the colors, white and grays. It is mostly useful for photography, but it can also diminish banding in case there's noticeable capping taking place; an intended colour can be outside of the display's spectrum, so it will get 'squashed' to nearest colour it can represent.

It's a nice-to-have, but if factory calibration was done properly then you would hardly notice the difference. That 10 Euro fee is a good deal though. The hardware isn't that expensive, but it does take some 5-10 minutes to do the calibration runs.

 

Because paypal consumer protection and ebay guarantee is in place to help you.

Just claim you didn't get what you ordered through ebay and threaten bank chargeback + fraud report to paypal.

 

The contrast+brightness looks wrong to me, I see white too bright that they loose information on some parts. The red is indeed too red.
This calibration will it calibrate gamma and other stuff or only color hue/saturation?

About these color profiles, will they reset If I reinstall my graphics driver?

 

Both and no; profiles are applied to the monitor driver. See here for some background and a quick-use tool.

Run through these great diy calibration pages and see whether you can fix things with a little tweaking of the display settings. Seems like gamma is too high ('white saturation' page), but the red may actually be correct. Most displays have a hard time there, so that's the getting-used-to-a-good-display bit. If the dark-red to bright-red transition is all visible, each band is distinguishable and steps are evenly spaced then that's really how it ought to look. It's just that most of us have never seen such colours on a monitor before, so it may appear a bit alien at first.