Urgent decision needed on lenovo

I have about 45 mins to decide between 2 laptops:

I get this spec x220 for £585:

i5-2410M(2.3GHz), 4GB RAM, 320GB 7200rpm HD, 12.5in 1366x768 LCD, Intel HD Graphics, Intel 802.11agn wireless, WWAN option, Bluetooth, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure Chip, HD Camera, 6c Li-Ion, Win7 Ultimate, MS office pro plus, 3 year onsite warranty

Or I get this spec x201 for about £430:

ThinkPad X201 (3680-HB6)
i5-540M(2.53GHz),
2GB RM, 320GB 7200rpm HD,
12.1in 1280x800 LCD,
Intel HD Graphics,
Intel 802.11agn wireless,
WWAN option,
Bluetooth, Modem,
1Gb Ethernet,
UltraNav,
Secure Chip,
Fingerprint reader,
Camera,
6c Li-Ion,
Win7 Pro 32
MS Office 2010
Warranty until 21/12/2013.

 

Does the X220 have the IPS screen? Even without it the X220 would be worth it. That's a pretty small price difference.

 

defintely go for the X220. even if it dosent have the IPS display its a good deal for 585. depends how tight your budget is really.

 

oh, do you need to run any special medical software on it? that processor on the X220 dosent have certain encryption and virtualisation features.

 

I dont thankfully. My budget can afford it as long as the laptop is worth it - it clearly is though - I didnt expect such a onesided responseD

 

congrats. is it an auction or a buy it now thing? it is 100 quid more than the X121 but i think you know its probably worth it considering you've seen it in person

 

I haggled him down from £650 and got the removal of postage.

 

x220 all the way!

you're getting a massive massive discount on the x220, like a good 30% before tax @_@

 

even factoring in the 7.5mm compatibility issue (which vinuneuro has the best hack remedy for), getting x220 makes more sense. You get better battery life on it and more performance on it comparing to the x201.

 

X220 will be a better purchase.

 

The x220 has intel's sandy bridge processor. It's a pretty good upgrade over the previous chip architecture, especially in the graphics department.

 

Who put the x201?

 

Only argument I can see for the X201 is if you just can't stand 16:9 screens, or have to have 800 vertical pixels. Personally, I don't see this as a big concern, though.

 

Fair enough - I bought the x220 in the end, the offer was just too good. $2287 down to $955 was very nice, and its a very nice laptop.

 

A wise decision.

 

The only reason why i would buy a X201 was if it is cheap and if it has a WXGA+ LCD (that means you would need to get the X201s).

The X201 run hotter than my X200. So i would think the X220 with an i5 CPU or i3 CPU would prove to be the wiser choice then buying the X201 in the long run.

 

TBH the worth of that machine was nowhere close to $2287. You basically got the currently/recently going price for an X220 with ongoing coupons and deals.

 

no, he saved a ton, the x220 starts at £772.74, he bought it with higher spec for £585
that's at least a 25% discount, probably close to 35-40% after you factor in higher spec

 

We are talking english prices here - I just converted the english money to dollars for the american users on the board.

I paid £585, he said that it was ~£1400 on the website - I added it up and it was within £50 of the £1400 mark.

 

daaamn!! im so jelly

 

Wow, it's crazy that ThinkPads are over twice the price in England, then! Someone should start reselling US laptops over there. That's a ripoff, honestly. Here in the States base models have been starting at around $600 for the X and T series. Adding up your upgrades still doesn't come even close to the UK pricing.

So I'm not jealous, though I am happy for you that you got what you consider to be a good deal.

ETA: I recently read about a service where you can buy a laptop for shipping to the US, and then ship it elsewhere. Maybe you could have saved some money that way. In any event, enjoy your new ThinkPad-- the money will fade into a distant memory but the laptop will last for ages.

 

I know, its a crazy price difference. But shipping it adds 20% tax plus the shipping itself so in the end this option was the same as shipping it over.

 

As long as you are content with the purchase then it is a good purchase.

 

Not really. If someone's happy to be ripped off, that doesn't make them a good consumer.

 

Well that depends on how you view the purchase and whether the consumer is fully rational in the decision making process. Another factor you have to account for is opportunity cost, for example this person has no real knowledge about purchasing computers and if needs to get up to speed on very facet of pricing detail, he would have to spend say 20 hrs. He could use that 20 hrs to work and earn say 500 dollars, and use that to purchase a laptop that is 100 or 200 dollars above what you can save by using 20 hrs of your leisure time.

So i guess you have to weigh up the benefits and costs of the alternative transactions.

Obviously, if your 20 hrs of work does not get you 100 to 200 dollars, then you could obviously choose to use that 20 hrs of time to look through ways of saving that amount of money.

 

But I wasnt ripped off, totting up the spec it is still cheaper then buying it from lenovo in the US and UK. And definately cheaper then shipping from the US and paying 20% tax

And I am happy lead.org, thanks

 

Right, your logic makes a lot of sense. Because everyone works at a job that lets them line up as many blocks of extra time as they like. Regardless, in the end, after they get off of work after having decided to do whatever extra work they could do at the magical job, your theoretical buffoon who would take 20 hours to do a few web searches would still be able to spend time saving money by doing the web searches.

You stated, "As long as you are content with the purchase then it is a good purchase." That's as true now as when you first stated it.

 

Well at the OP is happy, which is all it matters. Or did you get a kick from badgering your views onto others?

And FYI it is not everyone's idea of fun to go and look up computer purchases after they finish work, some people have better things to do with their leisure time. Obviously some people do these researches because they enjoy it, while others do it because they have a budget restraint, then there is whom do it because they are a miser and have nothing better to do with their time.

 

... all of which doesn't suffice as a replacement for logic and common sense.

It's simply untrue that any purchase is a good purchase as long as someone's unhappy. If that were true, anyone who was ripped off would have gotten a good deal as long as they never found out.

 

What is logical to you may not be logical to another person, what your idea of fun is not the same for another person, because not everyone thinks alike. Well people constantly get ripped off buying luxury goods, but they feel good about it and that is all that matters.

If everyone lives or thinks in the same way, then we would be all like Borg.