Vista SP1 Complete

For those suffering without an SP1 for Vista:

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006433.html

 

Its completely useless of MS to finish a massive security and functionality update then sit on it for a month...

 

It's been sent to RTM. I believe that you can get it now, but not completely sure about it being final. I have somewhat came to this realization.

 

Normally these end up on MSDN right after they go RTM, however this one is a mystery on MSDN so far...

 

I heard they will release it later this week

 

I am so glad Vista SP1 is done! Now they can start on Vista SP2 to fix the bugs!

 

I don't have any bugs in my copy of vista. Do you have bugs?

 

RTM IS the final release. The version number will not be any different when it hit WU a month or two later.

 

Will this only be for 32 bit or will it work with 64 bit installs as well?

 

The remaining questions is when can we get our grubby hands on it?

Don't suppose Lenovo will offer it directly (and early?) with their own tweaks? Does using the OEM Vista count as the volume licensing customer?

 

It is available on MSDN. So is Server 2008. There is a thread about it in the Windows forum.

 

Where is it on MSDN?

 

Sorry, Server 2008 is available on MSDN. Not sure about SP1 though. However, take a look at the thread in my signature.

 

I've looked on MSDN and do not see it. I did read that thread. I saw your patch and your uncertainty about whether that's RTM SP1 or not was trouble some.

I hope to goodness that one doesn't have to do a fresh install. With all of the software I have it takes days and I have two systems.

 

Well, I am 99% sure that it's the RTM version, as the SP1 hack downloads a build of SP1 with the same build as Windows Server 2008.

 

The components must have a date on them?

 

Yes, somewhere in January this month.

 

Thank you then.

I'm going to install it.

 

Uh-oh... I just took a quick look at your patch:

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\VistaSp1 / v Beta1 /t REG_SZ /d dcf99ef8-d784-414e-b411-81a910d2761d /f

Note the Beta1 in this entry.

 

Yeah, I know, but the fact is that it needs to have that line to install it. The build number however is the one of the final version. And it's not Beta 1, because that had the version number on the desktop, had a SP version number in My Computer's properties and so on. This one has none of those.

 

Well this is interesting.

I installed your patch successfully. I did a check for new I did a check up date and installed a patch and rebooted. I then did another check for updates and another patch was installed. No reboot was required. I then did a check for updates and there were no new updates.

Is SP1 going to show up later? I am aware that there is a latency.

 

It is now updatting, however what is going on is unclear. It is called SP1 Release Candidate 1 - BUT the publication date is Jan28th.

 

This really does appear to be release Candidate I and not the real SP1.

 

It's not RC1. The fact of the matter is that after you install it you have the 18000 build number well hidden (you can read it with Everest). It looks RTM to me.

 

Installed updates shows SP1 Release Candidate I

Also at the very beggining of the install on the installation panel there was a link to Additional information about this service pack. The page was to a webpage for SP1 Release candidate 1.

The System information panel in control panel shows simply SP1.

 

It may show that, but it's the same build number as the RTM, which doesn't make it a RC.

 

Caution Renee - I wouldn't apply this patch to your second machine. This is exactly why I stopped installing MSDN stuff. Even though it may be the final build, they did not know that for sure when they made the package for MSDN (sometimes there are last minute changes). It was therefore coded as an RC1, or late beta, and probably has a time limit embedded in it (or at least that is what happened to me once), even though it may be the same build as what finally went to manufacturing. Often, there is no free lunch...

 

Hi bsodder,

I'm nervous about my second machine as it is 64 bits. So I have not applied it and I also have a fresh Complete PC BackUp which is only a month old. Since I use multiple partitions, my system disk is rather static.

But I will say this....

Everything is more responsive. I use DSL and browser response is very noticeably snappier.

As far as what I should do, I really don't know. It's my desktop that has sp1 in it. It's much better off. My desktop has 4 gigs of memory but it's a 32 bit system. I have been considering taking it to 64 bits but there are two reasons why I haven't. For a developer there are advantages to having a 32 bit system and 64 bits, with it's two program files section is a bit of a pain. At first, I really like the snappyness of the 64bit browser but it has no flash support.

But here I am with this SP1 whatever it is and it is a noticeable difference.

 

"But here I am with this SP1 whatever it is and it is a noticeable difference." I am gonna rep you just for writing the first part of the sentence.
My belief is that it is a mislabeled build or they decided to make it the final one. Either way, they knew what they were doing as they haven't pushed the beta signs all over the place. You really don't have that word or the version number anymore.
I might be on to something.

 

Erm, you can "rep me" all you like. I don't "rep" well.

I'm not a mind reader. You might be right. Who knows? But it is marked RC1 in several places of the install.

 

Like? I can't remember now.
PS: Rep = give a reputation point, but I guess you know that...

 

Oh... I thought it was reprimand.......

 

Hi Renee,

Heh! It would be funny if we could give reprimands too, er... maybe not. Think of the flame wars. Seems like you should just sit tight with your desktop, since you have already done it, and you are liking the changes. If it times out, or won't update, then you will have to roll back or go 64 bit. You just never know with MS. I debate daily whether its time to go 64 bit - I really think that 32 bit Vista was just an interim kludge to get by while everything got up to speed with V64. But for me, everything isn't there yet. Sounds like SP1 is going to be a big improvement.

 

"I really think that 32 bit Vista was just an interim kludge to get by while everything got up to speed with V64. But for me, everything isn't there yet. Sounds like SP1 is going to be a big improvement."

As a developer, this makes sense. It's late afternoon for 32 bits and it's before dawn for 64 bits. As for you....

I'd recommend that you go for it. I see the slight performance difference in 64 bit. It's nice and snappy.

 

yeah - thanks, maybe it is time to take the plunge. I think, though that I will try it on my desktop first. Easy to just plug a spare disk in there and rev it up...

 

Here's the thing.....

With Complete PC Backup.... All you have to do is to back up your system disk. It will require about 1/2 the capacity of the allocated disk space on your disk. I use Dual layered DVDs (2) for 30 GB of disk space

Then you have a permanent backup. You can format your current system disk and install V64. At any time, you need it, you are only one hour away from your old system. (All of this assumes you have Vista Business at a minimum) as well as a bootable Vista DVD.

Good Luck !!