I am Thors.Hammer, only better-looking.![]()
Yes, you can buy RAM sticks from Newegg.com and install them yourself. Corsair Vengeance is generally considered good. Tell you what, when you spend serious money to get a serious workstation like the W530, you do serious thing like this:
Pick the brand you like. Find the price you like. Buy 2 pairs (2 x 8GB + 2 x 8GB) of the same brand, making sure that they are 204-pin DDR3 1600MHz.
Neat, don't you agree?
(What about that stock 8GB RAM stick? Donate it to the real Thors.Hammer.)
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Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast
Until recently you could order with a single 4GB or 2 x 4GB or some other combination that are essentially throwaways. I have a memory junkyard like a lot of people here. I also have a HDD junkyard. And soon, the SSD junkyard will start to fill.
Kaso is better looking. No doubt.
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Final made the decision to order the W530. With the following specs:
Intel Core i7-3940XM Processor Extreme Edition (8M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz)
Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready with color calibration sensor
NVIDIA Quadro K2000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
16 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (4 DIMM)
UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader for Color Sensor, Smart Card Reader
500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 AGN
Just a few more question. I intend to add the adata msata and change the Ram upon arrival of the said unit. Ive decided to go for the Corsair Vengance. Could you suggest which of the following is applicable for the unit ordered.
1. CORSAIR Vengeance Performance 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 Laptop Memory CMSX16GX3M2A1866C10
or this
2. CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model CMSX16GX3M2A1600C10.
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Might as well get option 2.
If you have PC3-12800 in the machine and install faster memory, the faster memory runs at the slower speed. At least that is my understanding. -
and last thing. so sorry for this stupid question. what does 4 dimm means? 4 slots? or all w530 has 4 slots for ram.. coz some has 2 dimm or 4 dimm or even 1 dimm
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It used to be that the dual core W series had only had two memory slots, but all new W530s come with a quad core so all should have four memory slots. You might find some pre-configured W530s or ones in the outlet with a dual core. Those I think would still have two memory slots.
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Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type): 32 GB
Memory Types: DDR3/L/-RS 1333/1600
Are you going to replace two stock RAM sticks with 2 x 8GB to get 2 x 4GB + 2 x 8GB = 24GB total? Or are you going to replace all of them with 2 x 8GB + 2 x 8GB = 32GB total? Or do you intend to be happy with 4 x 4GB = 16GB for the time being?
Why don't you order the ridiculously minimum RAM and then occupy the 4 slots as you wish with what you want?
BTW, that's a very nice config. If you happen to have some spare changes, please order another one just like that and donate to Kaso. -
Its a good thing to have choices though sometimes it is confusing to those who has limited know how... oh well, one has to try for one to know.
Thanks everyone for the comment and suggestion, i hope this would be a good start for me learn...i hope. -
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I would remove (and then snap back) the display bezel to see what it is and take it out completely. Check the T/W530 Hardware Maintenance Manual, pages 104 and 105. It's fairly straightforward -- I've done it a few times.
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It is encouraging to see that people are actually receiving the W530s they ordered. I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and I check the order status every day. Every day the ship date is pushed back an additional day or two. I have had 8 consecutive schedule slips. Any secret to how you all received your machines? I am starting to get a bad feeling about this.
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Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast
Anything unusual about the config your ordered?
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Processor Intel Core i7-3630QM
Operating system Windows 7 Home Premium 64
Operating system Language Win7 HP64 English
Total memory 16 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (4 DIMM)
Hard drive 500GB HDD 7200rpm
Optical device DVD Recordable, UBE w/SWR
Battery 9cell LI Battery TWL70++
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 w/ antenna
WiFi wireless LAN adapters Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
Wireless WAN accessories Mobile Broadband upgradable
Warranty Type 1 Year Depot/Express Warranty
Custom images NONE
AC Adapter and Power Cord 170W Slim AC Adpt US (2pin)
Accessible Optimized Preload NONE
Adobe Acrobat NONE
Adobe Elements NONE
Adobe Lightroom NONE
Camera TW530 720p HD Camera Mic
Color Sensor W530 Color Sensor
Custom Image Language No Preload
Display Panel W530 15.6FHD AntiGlare WWAN CS
ITC - Enhanced Service NONE
ITC - Harddrive Encryption NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 1 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 2 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 3 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 4 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 5 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 6 NONE
ITC - Project Type NONE
ITC - Solution using SmartImg NONE
ITC - Vpro Provisioning (VPRO) NONE
ITC - Who Created The Image NONE
Keyboard Language KYB (Backlit) US English
Language Interface Packs NONE
Microsoft Office NONE
Microsoft Windows 7 XP Mode NONE
Pointing device TW530 UNav w/ FPR for CS, SCR
Protection Services NONE
Publication Language Pub; US English
RAID Setting Internal RAID - Not Enabled
Reserved Char 1 NONE
SIM Card for WWAN 2 NONE
Security Chip 2 Security Chip Enabled
Shipping Country USA
Software Application NONE
Storage Adapter 16GB Micro SSD SATA3
System Unit W530 NVIDIA Quadro K1000M 2GB
System expansion slots TW530 Exp CS & 4-1 CR & SMT CR
Windows 7 Recovery DVD NONE
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I too have seen slips in my estimated shipping/delivery dates. I ordered my W530 on March 21 and my estimated ship date is now April 2nd, estimated delivery date is now April 9th. Although my UltraBay adapter should arrive on Monday.
I do not think my order is unusual:
Processor Intel Core i7-3740QM
Operating system Windows 7 Professional 64
Operating system Language Win7 P64 English
Total memory 8 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1 DIMM)
Hard drive 500GB HDD 7200rpm
Optical device DVD Recordable, UBE w/SWR
Battery 9cell LI Battery TWL70++
Bluetooth NONE
WiFi wireless LAN adapters ThinkPad 1x1 b/g/n
Wireless WAN accessories Mobile Broadband upgradable
Warranty Type 1 Year Depot/Express Warranty
Custom images NONE
AC Adapter and Power Cord 170W Slim AC Adpt US (2pin)
Accessible Optimized Preload NONE
Adobe Acrobat NONE
Adobe Elements NONE
Adobe Lightroom NONE
Camera TW530 720p HD Camera Mic
Color Sensor TW530 No Color Sensor
Custom Image Language No Preload
Display Panel TW530 15.6FHD Anti-Glare, WWAN
ITC - Enhanced Service NONE
ITC - Harddrive Encryption NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 1 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 2 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 3 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 4 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 5 NONE
ITC - Imaging Service 6 NONE
ITC - Project Type NONE
ITC - Solution using SmartImg NONE
ITC - Vpro Provisioning (VPRO) NONE
ITC - Who Created The Image NONE
Keyboard Language KYB (Backlit) US English
Language Interface Packs NONE
Microsoft Office NONE
Microsoft Windows 7 XP Mode NONE
Pointing device TW530 UNav w/ FPR
Protection Services NONE
Publication Language Pub; US English
RAID Setting Internal RAID - Not Enabled
Reserved Char 1 NONE
SIM Card for WWAN 2 NONE
Security Chip 2 Security Chip Enabled
Shipping Country Canada
Software Application NONE
Storage Adapter 16GB Micro SSD SATA3
System Unit W530 NVIDIA Quadro K1000M 2GB
System expansion slots TW530 Exp CS & 4-1 CR
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Now my estimated ship date is April 5th (was April 2nd) and estimated delivery date is April 11 (was April 9th). Current status of my machine is 'In Production'. My original order date was March 21.
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Online purchase of w530 order has been moved from april 08 to april 16, 2013 delivery.
While awaiting for said delivery I would like to inquire and ask for some idea in a Dummy way as possible the process of installing, checking and others. Here's my w530 specification
Intel Core i7-3940XM Processor Extreme Edition (8M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz)
Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready with color calibration sensor
NVIDIA Quadro K2000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
8 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (2 DIMM)
UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader for Color Sensor, Smart Card Reader
500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 AGN
4 pcs - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory
2 pcs - SSD 512G SAMSUNG 840 pro
1 pc - ADATA XPG SX300 ASX300S3-256GM-C mSATA 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
1 pc - True Image Acronis 2013 DVD
1 pc - 2.5" sata to usb cable
1 pc - 2.5" HDD/SDD external enclosure esata/ firewire connection
1 pc - Express Card for e data.
1 pc - NewMode US w530 hhd/ ssd caddy
Hope you can enlighten me to where and what to start upon arrival of said laptop. And here's a sample of my order of what i am going to do.
1. Upon arrival, open box and insert battery and plug unit.
2. Check unit overall specs according to the my purchase. if all is good. Insert DVD acornis true image, Run and Save the software.
3. Turnoff unit and remove battery, then install ADATA msata memory, install 4 pcs 8gb ram, Install Samsung 840 SSD in the Caddy.
4. Clone??? the hdd drive to Msata using the Acronis then turn off then remove the HDD memory and install the other Samsang 840ssd.
5. Restart the computer and change the msata as the primary drive and the two ssd as a storage drive.
6. Install other softwares like Autocad, Sketchup, 3dMAX/ Vray, Photoshop, Lightroom, Office, VLC, Norton Antivirus???, Winrar, DVD drivers and others
7. Calibrate w530 screen using its own calibration. Though I am still researching on how to use the screen calibration of w530.
8. SSd 1 for personal office and photo files
SSd 2 for Work. auto cad, sketchup, Rendering product files
msata for primary/ boot/ softwares drive
9. Few other question. do i need to re align the ssd and msata drives... since i do see some post regarding this matter.
10. Is my order of installation correct?
Hope anyone could shed light me on this matter before the computer arrive so i could try to make it myself to work. thanks so much -
Your steps are good.
Step 2: In addition to visual inspection, I would use HWiNFO64 (free download) to have a detailed report. You could always use Acronis for making backups, but initially I would use Lenovo procedure to create a set of factory recovery discs (1 boot CD + 3 data DVDs).
Step 4: Yes, you can use Acronis to clone the stock HDD image onto the mSATA SSD. (Alternatively, you can "recover" from the just-created factory recovery discs onto the mSATA SSD. In this case, you should physically remove the stock HDD before starting the procedure to avoid confusion. Also, this procedure allows you to verify if the factory recovery discs work fine.)
Step 5: In BIOS, you simply indicate mSATA drive as boot. The other two drives are automagically treated as storage.
Step 6: I would stay away from Norton. I find Microsoft Security Essentials (free download) good enough. Also, you may want to uninstall certain applications that come with the factory image.
Step 9: No no no. The "SSD alignment" concern is so... 2000!
Enjoy your W530. (Get me one just like that, upgrades and all, when you happen to be in generous mood, will you?) -
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, my W530 has been pushed back a few more days. Now I am looking at April 7th and April 14th respectively. I'll keep my fingers crossed, however, I expect further slips before it finally shipped. For all the time it is taking, I hope they are building/testing it good.
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But what I did after I'd copied the original drive image was to go ahead and run the install on the original hard drive for a "practice setup". I went ahead and added my RAM and mSata. After I was reasonably sure that all of the hardware was working and I was clear on how the updating process was working, I went ahead and put in the Samsung 830 and restored the 'pristine' initial image from the Acronis backup in order to run the 'first time' setup for real.
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Just an additional questions.
1. In the Step 2 you suggested...Using the HWinF064, a free download... this is to check on the factory hardwares that has been installed or for any other reason? Secondly, initial cloning or backup using Lenovo procedure to create a set of factory recovery discs ( 1 boot CD + 3 data DVD's ) rather than Acronis.... does it mean the CD and DVD's to create a recovery discs will act as an Installer in case there would be a problem in the future? so I can go back to a factory setting as initially shipped? In case that would be the case what is a boot CD and data DVD... can i just buy any 4 non rewritable dvd disc?
2. In step 3... i'll just do as suggested regarding the dvd/ cd lenovo procedure creating a factory discs. So would this be good... Physically check unit, Power up W530, once powered try to download thru internet the HWinF064 to check.., Follow the Lenovo procedure in creating the factory recovery discs, turn off then install the 4 rams, msata, two sssd samsung , and remove the HHD. Power up again and change the bios...msata as boot drive and the other 2 sssd as storage. then install the Recovery disc created. then restart to check if boot drive is ok. if all is ok, install acorns true image and other software needed in msata drive... then after all is installed use the acronis true image to back up all installer installed in an external drive so in the event something went wrong with the computer you can install all of the softwares i have installed??? would this be good?
3. in step 6, i'll follow the Microsoft security essential free download. Could you enlighten me on how to uninstall totally certain application? and what applications would you suggest that comes in the factory image that I would not be needing?
4. Thanks for the SSD alignment thing.
5. I hope i will enjoy the w530... i better be!!! Been a mac user for quite sometime. Honestly, mac has been so friendly in term of installation and other stuff like this. but happen to be using a unit not made for my work and just been justifying it to be ok...oh well i hope i'm right about this, for i sold a lot of stuff just for this... in case... just in case, i would be really be disappointed with everything ive done...maybe ill pm you ...hehehe
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From what i understand, upon initial start up of your computer, you installed a Acronis then copy a full image of the factory HHD drive to a CD/DVD? or and external HHD? then after you copy a full image, you tried practice installing on the factory HHD then after you think all is ok... you installed the RAM and mSATA. then installed the restored initial image from acronis back up in msata or Samasung 830 SSD ???
a Few questions:
1. what is updating process working and what are the things that needs updating?
2. Did you still use the HHD original? if so, did you reformat the original HHD after?
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The great advantage of Acronis is that, at later points in time, you can create backup file s of your main drive, each of which reflects all the changes and updates to the system up to that point.
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When you first turn on the computer, you can hit "Enter", which will bring up a menu from which you can get to the boot order menu. I selected the USB stick as the boot device and booted Acronis Recovery. Then I backed up the Hard Drive to the USB External Drive so I would always have the original image of the HDD before it goes through the "Running Windows for the very first time" process where you set user name, etc.
As for as updating, it's pretty simple. Windows Update will want to do some updates and restart the computer once or twice. In my case, there were also several Lenovo ThinkVantage software updates to go through as well.
After I was reasonably comfortable with the installation and after I'd made the 4 DVD recovery set, I pulled out the original HDD and put in my SSD. I restored the initial backup I'd made onto my SSD and started over.
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1. I bought a Acronis True image DVD CD, not downloaded thru internet software. How can i put a bootable version of Acronis in USB Flash stick?
2. Before the first power up of the computer, insert the an old used USB stick and External HDD ( to put the back up ), power on the unit then press enter to go the menu, use the USB stick as the boot device and boot the Acronis Recovery. Back up the factory HDD to the usb connected HDD. After the Back up process, make a Windows Update and lenovo think Vantage software update on the factory original HDD, then make a 4 DVD recovery set using the lenovo procedure. Try installing and practice after a bit comfotable, remove the factory HDD and put in the mSata, Rams, 2 new SSD 2.5" then turn on the computer, then restore the initial backup i made from old used USB connected HDD to my msata. after restart computer then go the BIOS by pressing f12 then make the changes... msata for boot drive and 2 SSD for storage...then after... install all softwares needed like the lightroom, CAD, photoshop, sketchup, office...and others. Then connect the original factory HDD thru a 2.5 usb enclosure and format it with no partition, then use the Acronis to back up all new, new changes and updated softwares installed. Then start to load files in the storage ssd like work, photos, office doc files and others, then start using the computer..... WOULD THIS be a good process??? -
1. Before you install the mSATA SSD, you will have had 2 backups of the Lenovo factory image on the stock HDD: one in the form of Acronis backup file, sitting on an external HDD; the other in the form of a set of DVDs (1 boot disc + 3 data discs), conforming to the traditional ThinkPad approach.
2. After you install the mSATA SSD, you use Acronis to restore the factory image from the saved backup file onto the SSD.
3. After you set up your computing environment just the way you like it (settings, applications, etc.), you use Acronis to create a backup of your initial system image. You can have subsequent backups at intervals that you decide.
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Thanks again Kaso. Copy you on that.
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Hey all, looking at buying a W530 tomorrow or Monday, or a W520 quad core, to replace the one in my sig.
My question(s) and concerns to help me decide are:
The W530 I can afford comes with Win 8. I don't want win8 and will do a fresh install of 7.
BUT it seems lenovo pulled all the win8 machines and offers them in 7 now, mostly anyways.
Is this due to problems ? Issues of some sort ?
Even more important and concerning is isn't Win 8 somehow 'embedded' in the board, bios, cpu ???
I helped a friend with a new Ideapad core i3 recently that came with Win 8.
There was no coa sticker on the bottom and a genuine win 7 install disc would not run in the dvd drive no matter what.
Had to fresh install win 7 via an external dvd drive.
Is that some sort of MS drm protection of some sort ? On the dvd drive or freakin bios ??
Seems like they try to lock down the pc with win 8.
I got 7 to install on that ideapad but never felt right about it....
So bottom line, does the W530 that comes with win 8 preinstalled have the same deal or not ?
Will i be able to install win 7 glitch free ?
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thanks Kaso
lenovo has what i want with w7 but for 300 more dollars and 4 weeks shipping time than a new w530 coming with w8 that i can have nib delivered in 2 days from a reseller
i want it faster and cheaper but am real leary of the w8 embed into bios, even if its the keycode, lord knows its also more MS 'code' than a 25 digit #
also concerned their is 'code' tied into the dvd drive, maybe even other ports with a w8 machine, having to do with drm of some sort
really want the backlit kb and ivy bridge :-/
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Uninstalling certain applications that come with the factory image? Anybody can share regarding this matter...which you feel is ok to remove???
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china spies ? perhaps
its the ones from Redmond, WA that concern me
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a friend of mine is selling a brand nib W530 with FHD screen for $1250 usd
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Windows 7 Professional 64bit
3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3630M(2.4Ghz, 6mb cache) w/TurboBoost up to 3.4Ghz
2GB DDR3 Nvidia Quadro K1000M Graphics(dedicated)
8GB DDR3 System Memory(2 dimm)
15.6" FHD(1920x1080) LED Backlight w/720p HD Camera
UltraNav (Trackpoint & Touchpad) w/Fingerprint Reader
500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
DVD Recordable
9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (3x3 AGN)
Bluetooth
Backlit Keyboard
One Year Lenovo Warranty(warranty runs through 03-27-2014)
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I went ahead and got the W530 nib with win8
should have it on Tuesday
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Can anyone help me on this....
I bought a Acronis True image DVD CD, not downloaded thru internet software. How can i put a bootable version of Acronis in USB Flash stick? -
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Does anyone know the memory timing, voltage and CAS Latency of the W530 shipped memory? I know the machine I ordered has 'PC3-12800 DDR3'. That is the speed. But that doesn't say anything about the timing or CAS Latency. I want add memory to the machine when I get it next week.
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1. READ: Convert the contents of such a CD/DVD to an ISO file, using a program like "ImgBurner".
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