The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    W701/W701ds...here it comes...

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by CrunchDude, Mar 23, 2010.

  1. CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    303
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Lenovo is releasing several updated ThinkVantage tools and drivers for the new W701 and W701ds models, which will be available starting one week from today, March 31, 2010.

    Who is getting one here? Any W700/ds owners who are wanting to upgrade? I, for one, am psyched. :)
     
  2. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If the T410s is any indication, prepare for these to ship in approximately October.
     
  3. CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    303
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Try one week from today. ;)
     
  4. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Here you can get some specs, lol.
    But my...17" Anti-glare RGB LED....yummy.
     
  5. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Oh man, that's so cute that you think Lenovo "available to purchase date" equals Lenovo "actual ship date." Its so sweet, please don't ever lose your innocence.
     
  6. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    119
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I have pre-ordered W701 (820QM/Q2800M) from my local Authorized Reseller (for its RGB LED display - the old style keyboard layout is a bonus though).
     
  7. aperture science

    aperture science Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    im sure there will be an overwhelming demand for a bumpgrade of their lowest selling model.
     
  8. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Does anyone know if the W701 is built completely from plastic or are there any metal parts (chassis) like anodized aluminum in AW and Dell Precision series as well unibody MACs?
     
  9. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,389
    Messages:
    10,552
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    It should be similar to the W510 you have in production. They have magnesium internal roll cages but the outside is a form of reinforced plastic.
     
  10. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Sounds good. I'm sure this config will also reduce the weight and be fairly durable. I might return the W510 and order the W701. The Anti Glare RGB LED is a very very impressive screen! Hopefully it's not as expensive as the Dell M6500 when similarly speced...Dreams...
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,389
    Messages:
    10,552
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    HP's 8740w is supposed to have an IPS screen which should be much better than any current TN panel on the market, but it will probably also cost an arm and a leg.
     
  12. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Yes, but also the overall quality is a question. Though that new FirePro M7820 is so tempting together with the IPS screen and a docking for 5 external monitors....Oh my...
     
  13. tigereat

    tigereat Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    6
    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I dont understand this what it is for? 25 packs of ram?

    "Extra SDRAM low-halogen SODIMM memory is the lowest-cost way to boost system performance. Grab a 25-pack for an even lower per-unit cost and reduced packaging.
    "
     
  14. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,389
    Messages:
    10,552
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    Whose quality are you questioning? The business models from Dell, HP, and Lenovo are all top notch.
     
  15. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I think you're right, but HP earned a somewhat dubious reputation in all IT departments that I was involved in.
    Time change definitely, and it's nice to see a new system entering the "bleeding edge" with all bells and whistles and a little extra (IPS screen).
     
  16. CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    303
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Alright, so it looks like the HP 8740w will have IPS in the upcoming DreamColor 2 display. This report (of sorts) claims the pricetag for the IPS "option" will be $550.

    On HP's website under the Configure-To-Order (CTO) section, I did find the option for $550 for a "DreamColor WVA" display, and WVA stands for wide viewing angle, one of the core benefits of IPS technology. It also lists the same display for $570 for those who want the camera option.

    If it takes until late April/early May, I'm ok with that, and I'm also ok with the price. HP's website leaves a lot to be desired and is confusing at best.

    I was hoping not to have to go with a MacBook Pro, but somehow Steve Jobs and Apple are able to come up with IPS, including even for their 9.7" LED-backlit IPS display on the iPad. :rolleyes:
     
  17. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Finally!!!! I was about to give up on waiting on this thing and was seriously looking at Dell M6500 and HP 8740w.
    Now I wonder what will the actual ship dates will be like once it goes up for sale.
     
  18. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Yes: does anyone know what this means?
     
  19. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    119
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It looks like we have another delay:
     
  20. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    So there are 2 ways to look at yet another delay:

    1) This gives us a glimpse into actual delivery dates.
    2) They are fixing all the issues that we would have found as early adopters. They are also building up stock to avoid the delivery issues they had with the other new releases.

    Should we take a poll? ;)
     
  21. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

    Reputations:
    1,571
    Messages:
    8,107
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    231
    this is probably for the corporate customers... buy parts in bulk..... or it could be just Lenovo ram chewing gum...
     
  22. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    It seems W701 is finally out. Yupeee??? :confused:

    Anyone ordering one or waiting out for other trailblazers? ;)
     
  23. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Not me. Not until they offer new ATI cards and IPS screen as an option.
     
  24. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I am assuming the BL at the end of the screen name means backlighting.
    Is that no good?

    Did they say they will offer IPS?

    P.S. What is with +$1300 to get the top processor? I think on the HP and Dell it is something like +$700
     
  25. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I hope they mean RGB LED screen, and if not - they should. That's the high-end standard for notebook workstations.

    They never said anything about IPS, but HP has those already and I assume Lenovo will follow.

    Yeah, the +1300$ for the 920XM is way too high. It should only cost about 600$ more than 720QM.
     
  26. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    119
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  27. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I'm talking about the new 8740w with the Dream Color2 and 30-bit panels (10 per colour). Those should be IPS. I have see one on a presentation a few days ago and it's not a "regular" RGB LED. It has perfect (almost 180 degrees) horizontal viewing angles and the colours appear too real even for the 100% RGB (IMHO of course). Look here.
     
  28. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    119
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I would like to finally see IPS displays in premium laptops (at least), however, there is no word in the 8740w announcement that this incarnation of DC is indeed IPS-based.
    Strange, isn't it? I would have heralded it everywhere...
     
  29. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

    Reputations:
    4,071
    Messages:
    4,208
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    As for now, speculations are that it's a 10-bit TN panel, not an actual IPS.
     
  30. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I've "heard" those speculations but also seen the presentation model and there's no way it's a TN panel. IMO of course.
     
  31. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

    Reputations:
    4,071
    Messages:
    4,208
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    That doesn't mean it's an IPS panel.
    Have you seen an IPS panel before?

    Also there are TN panels that look really good, a lot better than the normal TN panels.
     
  32. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

    Reputations:
    5,955
    Messages:
    10,196
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Not in a laptop.
    But I have a calibrated RGB LED (M17X) and can tell you - that HP was above my RGB the same way as the RGB is above my W510 (HD+).
    It's a rookie comparison, but still impressive enough for me to become curious.
     
  33. utopian3

    utopian3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    What do you guys think? There is a W700 in lenovo outlet with Core2 Extreme X9100, fx 3700m and WUXGA for $1934. I am just waiting for the 20% off coupon.
     
  34. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

    Reputations:
    1,571
    Messages:
    8,107
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    231
    i would just get the W700, it is just as good and cost cheaper than the new W701.
     
  35. peon01

    peon01 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Forgive my ignorance but what is: Pantone Color Sensor + WACOM Digitizer w/ Stylus ? And do I want that?

    Also I see they dropped i7-920XM to $1200 from $1300+. Good to see it is going the right way. :)
     
  36. menos

    menos Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    119
    Messages:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30