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    WSXGA+ vs WUXGA

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by wsmarty, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. wsmarty

    wsmarty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does anyone have an opinion on whether WSXGA+ or WUXGA is better? WSXGA+ would seem to have better legibility versus WUXGA having more screen real estate. I'm debating grabbing a fully packed WSXGA+ but wondering if I'm blowing it without waiting for the WUXGA to come back or go to CDW and grab one.

    Also, are they any other major differences or limitations in going to the t61p WSXGA+ instead of WUXGA?

    Anyone? Anyone?
     
  2. Tailic

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    I find WSXGA+ very comfortable to use and doesn't require to much dpi adjustment.

    I haven't seen a WUXGA screen but I would imagine it would need the dpi jacked pretty high up to be comfortable to use.

    I think its pretty much just a matter of seeing one in person and seeing if it fits your tastes.
     
  3. LAPU-LAPU

    LAPU-LAPU Notebook Guru

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    If you are going for the 15.4" T61P, then WSXGA is pretty good for a 15.4" screen.......now if you want the WUXGA on the 15.4" T61P then you better hope you have a pretty darn good vision.....it is true that you have more desktop space on the WUXGA but it will just strain your eyes on a 15.4" screen since the icons and text are really small ( u can lower the res though - but why get the WUXGA if you are going to lower the res)..........You should be very satisfied with the WSXGA on the 15.4".
    I would recommend the WUXGA on a 17" notebook.........but then again, it all comes down to personal preference.........Good luck!!!!! :D
     
  4. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    What resolution and size monitor are you used to?
     
  5. snype

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    I know this may seem stupid, but can't you just increase your font and icon sizes? Or can we not do that in Vista? Sorry, been on linux for the past 7 years.
     
  6. odin243

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    Yup, vista has very good DPI settings.
     
  7. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    I wonder will Lenovo ever make the 17'' Thinkpad ??? :D
     
  8. pacmandelight

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    Linux and Vista do a pretty good job. XP does a mediocre job as there are GUI bugs when increasing DPI.
     
  9. lefty

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    what are the nits of each?

    WUXGA = 175
    WSXGA+ = 200

    edit - found the pdf with this info here. and yes, those numbers are correct according to the doc.
     
  10. odin243

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    Yes, I believe that's correct.
     
  11. cccoltsicehockey

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    ok I am new to widescreen laptops and currently have a thinkpad t42p with UXGA 1600x1200 resolution and love it. Which resolution would be closer WSXGA+ or WUXGA. I want to keep my same amount of real estate as I have now as long as text wont be much smaller.
     
  12. MEK

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    The closest one would be WSXGA+, it is 1680*1050, WUXGA is 1920*1200.

    Actually, forget what I said, I just got confused myself by my own answer. Sorry
     
  13. cccoltsicehockey

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    I was originally thinking the same however isnt widescreen and inch or so wider than 15 inch standard screen.
     
  14. mcbrided

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    Yes it is slightly less in height and slightly more in width. If you are used to a UXGA, you will probably really enjoy the wsxga+ as soon as you adjust to a widescreen format rather than the 4:3
     
  15. aadadams

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    I had 1600x1200 on my HP and moved to 1920x1200 on the T61p. I am very happy I did. Without adjusting dpi for fonts the size is very similar though it is a bit smaller. IMNSHO, if you are happy with UXGA then WUXGA is the way to go. It was for me.
     
  16. odin243

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    If you're used to UXGA on a 15" standard screen, the closest to that in terms of text size and such would be WSXGA+ on a 15.4" wide screen or SXGA+ on a 14.1" standard screen.
     
  17. cccoltsicehockey

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    ok but will the font be a large amount smaller if I go with WUXGA. I do a lot of photo work and graphic on my laptop.
     
  18. aadadams

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    The size difference is minimal to me.
     
  19. eyecon82

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    I find eve the wxga+ to be difficult to read on a 15"
     
  20. odin243

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    If you go with WUXGA, by default text and icons will appear about 10% smaller. However, if you're planning on using Vista or Linux, you can always change the DPI settings so that text and icons appear at a size comfortable for you.
     
  21. tobius

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    you will pay more and wait longer for the wuxga. on such a small screen the wuxga is a very high pixel count, for some this is better for some it is not so good. i had ordered one with wuxga and canceled to get the computer faster, in the process i saved 200 dollars after upgrading my wireless card to agn. hope this helps.
     
  22. wilsonywx

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    IMO WUXGA is only useful if you are going to do a lot of video/photo editing that requires high definition displays, or you are watching hd movies (but there's no hd/blue-ray dvd drives in the t61p so why bother?). Even then this is a really high pixel count in such a small area (compared to big hd tvs) that I don't see the point of spending extra $$ getting it.
     
  23. ponicg

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    DPI Info

    WUXGA 1920x1200 @ 15.4" (16:10) ~= 147 dpi
    UXGA 1600x1200 @ 15" (4:3) ~= 133 dpi
    SXGA+ 1400x1050 @ 14.1" (4:3) ~= 124 dpi
    WSXGA+ 1680x1050 @ 15.4" (16:10) ~= 128 dpi
    WXGA+ 1440x900 @ 14.1" (16:10) ~= 120 dpi
    WXGA 1280x800 @ 14.1" (16:10) ~= 107 dpi
    XGA 1024x768 @ 14.1" (4:3) ~= 91 dpi

    So WSXGA+ is closest to the UXGA res... and WUXGA is about 10% more dpi than UXGA.
     
  24. cccoltsicehockey

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    ok thank you for that information it very helpful. so essentially I am cutting about 1.5in off the top of my screen and gain .5in if I go from UXGA to WSXGA+.
     
  25. halobox

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    For most people’s eyes, WUXGA is perfect on a 17" laptop, and WSXGA+ is perfect on the 15.4".

    Unfortunately, the rest of the world still runs 1024x768. It's still the most prevalent resolution used... sigh... losers... :D
     
  26. cccoltsicehockey

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    I went to bestbuy today and they had a 1680x1050 so I was able to see what it was. It was on an Acer laptop but I am pretty sure text should be the same on all 15.4in widescreens running 1680x1050. Hope I am right cause that is what I ordered.
     
  27. MonsterMaxx

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    I got the WUXGA 15.4" from Lenovo.

    for my purposes (CAD) the extreme high resolution is OK, but to read any text is impossible at that resolution. Characters at on websites like CNN are less than .100" tall.
    Combined with a screen that's about as bright as a 10w light bulb and it's completely unreadable.

    If you are doing high res stuff, go for it, if you want to be able to read anything on the screen forget the Lenovo WUXGA.

    Add in really bad light leakage which Lenovo claims is to specification, normal and expected with this screen and I'd say this is a screen to be avoided at all costs.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10145&d=1188928170
     
  28. Sneaky_Chopsticks

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    Let me get this straight, WSXGA has the larger resolution, and the WUXGA has a smaller resolution, resulting the WUXGA has better battery life? :confused:
     
  29. eyecon82

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    I even find the wxga+ on the 15" too high...i cant even imagine the wuxga and wsxga+
     
  30. mcbrided

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    Resolution refers to the number of distinct pixels that can be displayed...

    wuxga has a higher resolution
    wsxga+ has a lower resolution

    I doubt one or the other is going to make any large differences with battery life.
     
  31. odin243

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    There actually is a battery life difference, but not because of the resoultion, but because of the fact the two different resolution panels have different brightness ratings.
     
  32. mcbrided

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    That would make sense... :) thanks for the clarification!
     
  33. MonsterMaxx

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    :cool: In that case the WUXGA should be better since it's brightness is so low.
     
  34. fusion2007

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    but then which ones brighter? wouldnt having more pixels be brighter?
     
  35. braddd

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    nope. brightness has to do with the actual physical light behind the screen.
     
  36. fusion2007

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    oh i c..thank you. so then the wxsga is brighter?right
     
  37. odin243

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    Yes, the WSXGA+ is the brighter panel.
     
  38. fusion2007

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    thanks..and sorry for botherin you i have one more question is like alot brighter or just a little bit?
     
  39. odin243

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    Well, the WUXGA is rated at 175 nits while the WSXGA+ is rated at 200 nits. You really have to see some screens to get an idea of how bright they are, it's hard to convey in words.
     
  40. clyde1

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    I have T60 with WSXGA+, and even with it I find some of the print hard to read. I've been playing around with the DPI settings, and this helps in a lot of cases, but it doesn't really change how a lot of web pages are rendered on the screen. So I still have to squint to read some of the text. Running Vista Business by the way.

    I'm starting to think that a 14.1" widescreen display with 1280 x 800 resolution might be a good combination.

    To me, changing the display to a lower resolution doesn't work well at all. Anytime I move away from the max resolution on the WSXGA+, it makes everything bigger, but the sharpness is terrible, so I'd rather squint than see low quality. Other than that, I find the WSXGA+ screen to be stunning.

    Since it is ~ 20% more screen area than a 14.1" display, is it safe to say it reduces battery life by about 10% compared to having a 14.1" ? In other words, is the display using about half the power?
     
  41. timd75

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    You can use control+ & control- to zoom in/out of webpages, saves on squinting. :)
    I use a 1920x1200 15.4" T61p, with the standard dpi, and sometimes need to zoom in on web pages..
     
  42. odin243

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    If you have Vista or Linux, try playing with the DPI settings instead of lowering the resolution. It will increase the size of text and icons while still giving you the sharpness associated with your native rez.