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    WUXGA Vs WSXGA+

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by TravisBean, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. TravisBean

    TravisBean Notebook Evangelist

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    I have seen posts by several people that they actually like the WSXGA+ 15.4 better than the WUXGA 15.4 screen and that I should try to view one for myself before making a decision on which one to get. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a 15.4 inch with such a high resolution to preview. I would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions and descriptions of these 2 screens and the pros and cons of each one, and why you might think one does or does not have better video quality than the other. And we thank you for your support.
     
  2. nicodemus

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    They have different native resolutions with WUXGA being higher. Using a non-native resolution (e.g. using WSXGA+ resolution on WUXGA) results in a more blurry image. So if you intend to use a 15.4" notebook at WSXGA+ resoultions anyway, you should just get WSXGA+.
     
  3. TravisBean

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    Lenovo recommends the WSXGA+, so I am guessing that most of the time the lower resolution screen is native to most applications?? ( either that or they just have a surplus of the WSXGA+ screens )
     
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    bluepojo Notebook Guru

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    Unless it's a full screen game or something similar, you're not going to have the applications defining your resolution.
     
  5. t30power

    t30power Notebook Deity

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    Maybe the WUXGA would be most suitable on a 17" laptop such as the W700, maybe in the 15.4" everything would look too small.

    Anyways, in the future I'd like to posses a WUXGA Thinkpad.
     
  6. pufftissue

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    1920x1200 is extremely small on a 15.4" screen, in my opinion.
    Very small. I would not go any higher than 1680 x 1050 on a 15.4" screen.
     
  7. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    hey i have a 15.4" WUXGA screen. i actually took some screenies for another member that has a similar dilema. i took some screenies of my desk top at 1920 x 1200 resolution and then scaled down to 1440 x 900.

    check out post #5 in this thread.

    hope that helps :D
     
  8. sefk

    sefk Notebook Consultant

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    A higher screen resolution has 2 advantages:
    1: larger desktop space, which is not always useful since at WUXGA things start to be too small for a lot of people.
    2: Better for HD movies. But IMO, a 15.4 inch screen is too small for a satisfying cinematic experience even with a high-res screen.
     
  9. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    u can actually customize most of yur settings tho. u can change OS font/icon sizes via DPI settings. web pages can also be saved to open at whatever size u save it at. ctrl + wheel scroll is always a real nice short cut to have if u need to increase web page's font/image sizes.
     
  10. sefk

    sefk Notebook Consultant

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    But does it worth the extra $$? IMO, no.
     
  11. geauxtigers

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    IMO WUXGA is not worth it at all unless you absolutely need the space for coding or Photoshop. My WSXGA+ screen is even too small for me, I wish I could have gotten WXGA+ on the 15.4"
     
  12. Mackan

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    Why is it that the res. goes so high only on notebook screens? On standard standalone screens, I have never seen anything go higher than 1440*900 on a 19'', which I think is a nice resolution for that screen.

    WUXGA on 15'' seems crazy to me, and I have seen it. But that's just my opinion.
     
  13. Skry

    Skry Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe as one sits/works much closer to a notebook's screen than a normal/ typical desktop screen, smaller fonts in WUXGA 15.4" may not be so bad, after all.
    Its a personal choice -why they call them personal computers <grin>

    Skry
     
  14. dlhuss

    dlhuss Notebook Consultant

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    Download the screenshots and look at the jpegs fullscreen. You can judge the size of the print, but the resolution, of course is different. I also requested screenshots in an earlier thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=275472

    Anybody that thinks WUXGA on a 15.4" is too small or not worth it is just stating their opinion, which I respect, but with which I totally disagree.

    You have to decide for yourself. I personally love seeing two pages on documents and my digital photos look beautiful at 1920x1200 and of course, HD video is only HD video on 1920x1200. If your eyes are good enough and you get used to it, anything else looks like a toy, in comparison.
     
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    Image quality on the WUXGA is far superior to the WSXGA+ in terms of actually clarity simply due to the fact that there are more pixels in the same amount of space.

    If your worry is that things will appear small, Vista is able to increase the DPI on icons, system fonts, etc very effectively. It is a huge pain though at the start when you are adjusting sizes for all sorts of applications that you use and some fonts in certain applications (e.g. captions in Firefox) are permanently ultra-small or are cropped in weird places.
     
  16. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    That is up to the picture itself, if you have the right resolution, they all look nice. If you put a WXGA resolution picture on a WUXGA, you'll get one word, "craptastic"
    However, the quality of the panel itself is far from superior.
     
  17. yoyodyne

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    I have wuxga and it's ok. I am going to be using it for development and wanted the extra space (and it was actually cheaper than wsxga+ at the Lenovo outlet).
    If you don't need to have lots of windows open, go with wsxga+...
     
  18. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    that is all up to the buyer, as it is a *personal* decision.

    my m1530 is the first 15.4" WUXGA screen i have ever owned. i usually sit about an arm's length (about 3 feet) or more, from my screen. i just customized all my settings to accommodate my viewing preference. i can honestly say that i will never go back to a lower res-screen. again, the decision is totally up to the buyer.

    in terms of picture quality, its like comparin a 1080p LCD tv to a 720p LCD tv. most consumers will never really know the difference between the 2. if u want some extra real estate on screen and prefer a more vivid picture for movie viewing. check the WUXGA screen out. for the average consumer, WSXGA or even a lower res-screen will suffice just fine. icon, text, and webpage sizes can all be customized to yur liking.

    edit: these are my current firefox settings. this should give u an idea of how u can customize webpages and fonts.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. bsodder

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    This is eerie houstoned - I have the same font, and skins for Firefox and Winamp - totally different playlist though... I love my wuxga, and my vision is not all that great. The sharpness of the display and adjustability under Vista more than make up for the smaller pixels.
     
  20. TravisBean

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    Is there a severe lack of adjustability in XP Pro?
     
  21. jmeissen

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    I have a Z61p (same as the T61p) with the WUXGA screen. I don't ever want to go back.

    I had a Compaq 15" laptop (not widescreen) several years ago with UXGA resolution (1600x1200), and loved it. They had other issues, though, and after it died I spent a long time trying to find something better than 1024x768. Eventually I found an Asus with WSXGA+ resolution, which was still less than my old Compaq, and used that for a couple of years.

    I had to get a new laptop for work, and found the Lenovo with the WUXGA display. I absolutely love it.

    People look at it and comment "how can you read that small text?" But I find that at a comfortable laptop typing distance I don't have any trouble reading the text at all. And I love being able to see entire pages of text at a time. I don't see how anyone can use the 1280x800 resolution of the standard crap in the stores.

    I've heard that the higher resolution screens are not as bright. My Asus WSXGA+ screen was definitely brighter. I was able to use it in sunlight conditions that the Lenovo is unreadable in. But I don't know if that's related to the resolution, or the display panels used by the two manufacturers.

    All other things being equal, I would say go with the higher resolution. But if you're comfortable with the WSXGA+ you might want to see if there's really a difference in brightness.
     
  22. TravisBean

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    Much Thanks to evryone who responded to my inquiry, and I am still not sure as to what screen resolution would be best for me, so once again I strolled on down to my local Best Buy Electronics Emporium,and wow and behold, when I asked 3 different sales representatives to see an example of a WUXGA 15.4 inch screen, all 3 had no idea what a WUXGA screen was, and to add insult to injury, they didn't even let up that they didn't know until they had nervously walked me around to several different laptops and then probed me for hints as to what WUXGA resolution is. I guess its to much to ask that sales people be knowledgeable about the products in thier department , after all, they need to have a legitimate reason for charging you that 15% restocking fee for products that they didn't know how to demo to begin with.
     
  23. The Fire Snake

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    I am not surprised in the least. I had the same thing happen to me, they are idiots. A lot of those sales people have no clue, they lie and on top of it they are arrogant. Don't bother asking them anything, they will just confuse you. This web is the best.

    It can be real hard to find WUXGA in any store. I tried desperately to find one to look at with no luck. I did however get to take a look at 2 WSXGA+ machines a Z61 thinkpad and an ASUS, but even that was difficult. All they have is 1280x800. I have WSXGA+ right now and will probably go for WUXGA next time. I am real happy with my screen but even more real estate would be nice. In my opinion the only thing that would be very small with the WUXGA is the system tray in windows(clock etc - no big deal) and text(browser and word processor). The menus and desktop items are all icons of some sort and are not hard to see. With the text you can just zoom. That way you can have the really high res for movies, pictures and icons and zoom for the text so it is comfortable to read. The only thing that kept me away from WUXGA is that I read many people say that the WUXGA 15.4" panel on the T61p was too dim - 175 nits. I figured that the super high res along with a dim screen might make the screen unusable.
     
  24. houstoned

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    what can i say...u have good taste! :D

    if u are gonna use yur notebook in an outdoor environment, then i would probably recommend a LED backlit screen. WUXGA screens are generally not as bright, but the picture quality is more sharp and vivid. most people that use LED backlit screens, indoors, usually have to turn their brightness down.

    u would definitely have to check out a higher-end computer store for a WUXGA screen. the general consumer will have little to no knowledge about them.
     
  25. Elite Cataphract

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    The W500 is a 15.4" notebook, and there are two display options currently available:
    15.4" WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight \
    15.4" WUXGA TFT
    The WSXGA+ display is only 200 nits, while the WUXGA display is 400 nits. Should I choose quality over resolution? WUXGA seems too much for a 15.4" notebook.
     
  26. Mackan

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    According to the tabook the WUXGA is 175 nits...
     
  27. Elite Cataphract

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    Then they lied to me. :mad: I actually had a chat with Lenovo customer support.
     
  28. Han Bao Quan

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    W700 has 400 nit, not the W500.