What happens to t510 models when t520 arrives?

I was wondering what happens to all t510 models when t520 are released.

On Lenovo website I can see only current ones so I would anticipate that once t520 are out, t510 will disappear. And I'm afraid that if t520 will be to expensive for my budget then I wouldn't be able to go for cheaper t510 anymore..

Does anyone have any insights on buying smart when new models are released?

Right now I am able to buy pretty sweet configuration of t510 for $1180 after web special discount and 35% coupon, taxes included shipped to Canada. Would you think once t520 arrive at their website, the prices of t510 will go even more down?

 

They go away.

Usually the outgoing model will be sold for an additional month or two (or until they sell out) for a discounted price , while the newer model will be sold at a premium.

 

Alright, so would you say it's safe for me to wait until the end of March to see t520 configurations and prices and then make up my mind?

(I'm so eager to buy t510 now, but I don't want to kick myself for it afterwards if t520 is going to be more cost effective)

 

I am in same position as you are. W510 for ~1300 for i7-820 with all the goodies. But kind a sure W520 won't be in same price even if new chipsets are more powerful.

Price difference will come down to goodies e.g. FHD screen, hard drive size/speed, graphics card etc cost a lot with new model where as old model include them with price.

 

They get heavily discounted/refurbished?

 

I would wait it out, and see what happens.

There is also the Lenovo Outlet store as well, which sometimes you can find some GREAT deals on (refurbished / laptops that were ordered but returned but never open, etc.).

But, like I said, for now, I'd just wait it out, and see how much the new T520 laptops will sell for, and how much $$$ Lenovo will cut the outgoing T510 by.

 

Chances are when the T520 comes out, you're not gonna want a T510 lol.

 

They instantly become completely worthless.

Oh, sorry, my mistake. Actually, they become an even better value proposition, as most users simply don't have taxing enough workloads to justify the performance increases of the T520, and the T510 will be heavily discounted.

 

t520 will let you obtain a t510 for MUCH cheaper. One of the best times to buy a computer as you can get the replaced model for cheap or the new model for full price.

 

lol that's not always the case. I mean you aren't going to get 80% off a T510, it is going to slowly drop in price. I remember when the E6410 came out, funny enough the older E6400 was more expensive through Dell Outlet..

 

Much cheaper doesnt equate to 80%!

 

Yeah not beyond 60%..after all margin of profit is very thin in PC business.

Also lenovo is smart by hiking base price when they have sale & float some big discount coupons & make people think they are getting discount on OLD model.

Outlet is always expensive for old model in NEW condition. (might be refurbish cheaper)

Even we don't know OLD model will be available from lenovo when new series comes out (chances are less of overlap or both will stay for long time)

 

Doesn't it depend on their stocks. Whether t510 is still being produced or not.
How many of them are left. I wish they were incredibly overstocked on X201s.

 

I wonder when Lenovo gonna release a major update (Design factor)to the T-series, just don't wanna buy me a T510/T520 knowing that in 2012 they're gonna release a whole new design to their T-series, which gonna make the current T-series looks ancient!

 

You are worry about how it look with Thinkpad. Unless they are a Thinkpad fan, most people can't tell the difference between the 5 year old Thinkpad from the newer one. They're just black bento with only slight difference.

 

But if you look closely into the the Thinkpad X220 Tablet and compare it to X201 Tablet you'll notice a difference in the buttons below the screen, that's what I meant.

 

The sky is falling!!!

 

If you are looking for a MAJOR T/W series redesign, I think you will be waiting for a LONG time lol

The keyboard was already updated a year or two ago, and the roll cage is fairly new (well, ok, started back in 2008), but in "Thinkpad years" that's fairly new lol They don't update the Thinkpad design ( well, a "major" hardware upgrade that is, minus the new processors) that much, as you can tell (heck, just look at a model that's 6-8 years old lol).

The only thing I would consider to be the next (hopefully) major upgrade will be the IPS coming to the T/W series next year. That to me, would be WELL worth the year or so wait for the next T/W series alone.

 

Grrr!

X201 Tablet



VS

X220 Tablet

 

The T-Series Design as you know has been here since 2007 (T61 started it), it's too long to have the same design without even a minor tweak to it for 4 years, I believe it's time even to redesign the power/non-keyboard buttons at least (New X220 style comes to mind) to keep up with this generation of laptops (Something like the new X220 Tablet is more than enough for me in terms of design refresh).

 

There is absolutely no one on this planet or this forum that can tell you what the next ThinkPad T5xxx will look like or what it will have. No one. Then there is 2013 and god only knows what will be released then. That goes for all the other manufactures of notebooks.

Just buy what you need and save for another system later if the one you purchase today does not do what you need it to do.

 

Didn't say that anyone can, just looking at the release pattern of the T-series can give an idea about how close the next "big" T-series release.

I am planning to future-proof my next laptop, that's why I am trying to be careful here about buying me a current generation Thinkpad.

 

The best thing you can do for future-proofing is get a laptop with a fast i5, or a lower-midrange i7. There's not much extra value from getting the highest end, especially for someone who doesn't upgrade every year. Just wait for a Sandy Bridge laptop, it'll hold you over until Ivy Bridge completely blows it away with 35W quad-cores replacing i5's and i7-dual-cores in mainstream laptops.

As for how close the next "big" T-series change is, whenever Ivy Bridge mobile cpu's are released. A TDP drop from 45W to 35W for Ivy Bridge quads means that the heatsink will be a lot smaller for T5x0 and W5x0, meaning thinner 15" laptops. So, the T4x0 would probably get dragged along with an upgrade, even if dual-core TDP's don't drop(although I'd *hope* 25W dual-cores become common).

 

lol future proof and technology should be illegal in the same sentence. Buy what you need with what you have. If you need a laptop, don't wait 8-9 months just to get the newest technology. Ivy Bridge is a die shrink of Sandy Bridge, will offer 20% more performance with less heat and energy usage for the same price point. Next biggest thing will be 2012 when Intel launches Haswell.

Oh and 25 watt dual cores do exist, P series Core 2 were 25 watt.

 

They go to Lenovo heaven, and the T520's take their place. What kind of answer did you expect? The T510's will still be offered to clear out remaining inventory while the T520 will be offered at a price premium, then the T510 will be dropped and the T520 price will come down. Rinse, repeat.

 

I am not in a hurry right now, just getting fed up with my Toshiba Satellite A200-1GB which I bought back in 2007, keeps overheating and right now it's at the maintenance to fix black screen with cursor after the welcome screen of windows vista. If it's fixed and last long with me till 2012 for Ivy Bridge and "probably" Windows 8 (Or whatever the next windows OS name is) then that's the best situation for me.

And about your 2nd paragraph, it was to scientific for me to understand.

Future proofing I mean that I can install other new windows OS in the future (i.e. having a Windows 7 Thinkpad right now that I can upgrade easily to windows 8,9 etc, till the computer becomes ancient to me which is 6+ years).

Meaning that my computer will still have the recommended specs for next Windows OS releases.

Also what doesn't make Haswell offering 20% more performance and less energy consumption and heat compared to Ivy Bridge?

 

Alright!

I've planned to buy me a T510!

But gonna wait a little bit for it.

EDIT: the Nvidia 512 GPU gonna be quite low for me especially for CAD, gonna wait till I attend architecture school then I'll buy me the newest version or an old W-series by then I hope I have enough money to buy either.

 

Have you bothered to look at Lenovo Outlet - Home page - Discounted Laptops, Cheap Laptops, Refurbished Laptops, Discounted Desktops, Cheap Desktops, Refurbished Desktops ? There were some good deals on W510's there yesterday. I certainly wouldn't buy the T510 knowing you need a stronger GPU platform.

 

I've looked mostly on custom build ones only.

Checked the link you gave me, I found out good deals on T510, but not much different price for the W510 than the custom one I've built at the website (Talking about New and Refurbished).


W510 is the perfect choice for me except that I've read alot through many forums on the internet that it has overheat problem.

EDIT: Just now did a killer build for W510 for 1639$, did started to build the model with 1799$ with the same spec except I swapped for a 4GB Ram (Which I'll upgrade when I need, by then ram chip prices will be cheaper). This is the closest thing I could reach, could wait for W520 to be released so I can get the W510 for even a better deal.

I have a question though, when Lenovo release the new thinkpads, you can't custom build the previous models?

 

I highly recommend test the crap out of whatever you buy during the initial 21 day return period. If you spot a problem, exercise your return rights. I would not pay two grand for a machine and settle for something you aren't going to be happy with.

 

I like the W510 in every possible way (due to a lesser degree, retaining the same design of T510 which is awesome but less unique, but wouldn't care much about that), the size, build, specs, price and the design are almost perfect for my situation.

But it's gonna be annoying if the heating problems start late after the warranty ends, and I am not a big fan of warranties since I never got any benefit from them in all my life buying electronic gadgets.

 

First time you need to replace a screen or motherboard, you'll change you tune. Again, I would not spend upwards of $2000 to be left high and dry after day 366.

If you buy a new machine every year, that's one thing. But most people don't. I like coverage on my machine for 4 years.

To each their own.

 

I am in the same league as you, 4 years at least for me to keep my machine if it doesn't start malfunctioning on me.


But something I've learned from observing high end laptops (which some of my friends had in the past) is that it barely lasted them 2 years max (they were overheating and causing other hardware problems) then they replaced it for a low/medium speced now (by that time those low/medium speced one have better specs).


Talking about Vaio and Toshiba owners.


In conclusion, that's why I try to stay away from the high end models for two reasons:

1-Too expensive for my budget, which is 1500$ max on exceptional situation.
2-High end models are prone to overheat and hardeware malfunctioning that the heat causes.

 

I have a question.

When the new T520/W520 etc, models are released on the website, is it possible to customize and build a previous T510/W510 etc, or I am bound to the Lenovo Outlet?

 

If you want a W510, time is running out. That's a hint.

 

Just changed my mind about W510, since I won't be using CAD until after 3 years from now and most likely it will be in University studios.

Planning on a T510, but missed the special offers they were a week ago, the prices were good back then.

 

There will most likely be another sale when they release the t520.

 

There was a substantial design change going from 15.4 to 15.6 monitors last year, and the new options are not necessarily better than what gets replaced. The time of transition like right now is good to weigh the pros and cons of changes. In case of the display size changes, I definitely did not want the 15.6 format so opted for the T500 at a substantially discounted price last winter, and considered the new generation of processor a lower priority.

 

You can also give T400/T410/T400s/T410s a look if you want those 16:10 screens, the future holds 16:9 aspect ratio, which bugs the most here but me.

 

Usually with the end of line models the amount of customisation you can choose is diminished, from past experiences you will probably get to choose cpu, ram, screen, wireless card, etc. But as time wears on and heavier discounts started to roll in, then you may only get to choose the wireless card and CPU.

It really depends on how many parts are still in stock.