What makes x220 heavier than x200s?

I find my new x220 is considerably heavier than my x200s (without battery or any other accessories). I thought the direction of progress in replacing older models should be less and less weight?? What parts increased x220 weight?

 

the X220 replaced the X200, not the X200s.

it's the same weight as an X200 yet has a thinner chassis, IPS display option, and full-power CPU options.   the X200s was limited to ULV and no IPS alternatives.   the X220 is also markedly less expensive than any previous generation.

the WXGA+ model X200s was lighter due to having a CFRP lid, thinner/lighter chassis, and ULV heatsink/fan assembly.   this dropped overall weight by around 0.4lbs.   the standard WXGA X200s models were roughly 0.25lbs heavier than the WXGA+ due to the different displays, hinges, and lids.   if comparing similarly-equipped models, the weights aren't much different at all.

full-power options, better display, and thinner chassis—all for less money—seems like progress to me.

 

what happened to the x220s?

 

It never was.

 

It never existed, nor was it ever planned. The X-series and X-series "s" models have grown so similar that few users are willing to pay the premium for a slightly lighter and thinner laptop. That, along with persistent parts shortages (most notably the screen) during the X201s run resulted in the end of the X-series "s" models.

 

The X220 appears to be a complete redesign from the X201 (I have both), so it's likely that Lenovo decided to discontinue the "s" variant because of lower sales. The "s" version was always much more expensive, slower, and it's not a whole ton lighter/smaller.

The X220 is absolutely a better laptop than the X201, especially with the IPS. There are some things I'm not really happy about on the X220 (like the touchpad and the increased noise vs. the X201) but it's faster, less thick, has a better designed keyboard (F-keys in the normal locations, bigger Del key), looks nicer, has a way better screen, has the nice new ThinkPad features like the mic-mute button, light-up mute button, DisplayPort, nicer volume up/down, and it's cheaper too.

 

I may be one of the "few". Lightweight is one of the top priorities for me. "Ultra light" will be more important than "ultra slim" for me (i.e. bigger but lighter is OK).

P.s. If I am one of the "few", then it's not few.

 

most bought the X200s for the WXGA+ display, not the weight reduction.   very few X200s models sold in volume with the standard WXGA display.

on the topic of weight... given that an mSATA SSD would reduce the weight of an X220 by a couple ounces and a ULV processor by an ounce, you could build a 2.8 lb system quite easily.   the best i've seen an X200s weigh on a calibrated scale with full-size SSD, wifi, and two memory modules was ~2.65 lbs.   0.15 lbs would be inconsequential (to most, anyway ).

 

i really wish the x220 came with switchable graphics, that and the screen bother me to no end.
i would have been willing to pay 250 more for a Raedon 6630M and HD+ display

 

Didn't realise the Hitachi 320GB HDD was contributing so much to the overall weight until I removed it the other day. Almost makes me question the wisdom of going the mSATA- HDD route, although it's a great set up in all other regards.

 

There's not enough liked minded individuals to move the market. $250 seems awfully low for what you want. The Sony Z is probably the closest to what you want and that's an expensive notebooks.

 

I am willing to pay premium for lighter weight. I will be so pissed off if X220s is released, making my choice of X220 look like a fool.

 

I love my x200s with 1440x900. Unfortunately, the LV processor in the x200s is too slow for some of my current work.

I am willing to pay a premium for lighter weight and higher resolution. However, I am not willing to pay 3 times the price for them.

I ordered an x220 yesterday for $900 instead of a Sony Z2 for $2700. I'll be a fool along with you if an x220s comes out soon!

 

well maybe the next iteration of the ThinkPad x1 ought to fill the void that the x2x0s left behind.

 

I'd guess the "X2" will have the footprint of a W520 but with a 13.3" 1366x768 screen and 2 inches of bezel all the way around. But it will be as thin as a MacBook Air

 

I think it would be more like Ultrabook thinness and dimensionally it should also be slightly smaller. Just my guess.

 

i would have settled for a u300s with a matte HD+ TN or matte IPS 1366x768