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    When is the next lenovo refresh coming?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Lakjin, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. Lakjin

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    Iv been hearing around about it, but never really caught onto the final release date. If its soon ill cancel my gateway order and wait for a lenovo...

    anyone know?
     
  2. Mu Zeta

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    It's only rumors at this point but they'll probably come out in 2-3 months.
     
  3. ssnseawolf

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    Intel delayed the platform that Lenovo's next-gen laptops are based on until mid-July. It's anyone's guess as previously mentioned, but I would guess units will start showing up at doorsteps in September.
     
  4. Lakjin

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    meh, who wants to wait that long XD
     
  5. thepreacha619

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    If that's true, then they are going to lose out on so many sales this fall. damn shame.
     
  6. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    Or they can release the new models with AMD new platform, PUMA.
     
  7. Mu Zeta

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    Then so is everyone else.
     
  8. ssnseawolf

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    I think AMD needs to get their wattage and performance under control before they become a viable platform.

    It's a shame. The consumer could use some AMD/Intel competition these days.
     
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    What's wrong with AMD's power consumption on the Puma platform? They're using more advanced and aggressive CPU throttling / power saving methods than the current Core2 processors, and I also believe the new Montevina chips.

    AMD's Turion 64 Ultra X2s can switch off their CPUs or throttle it down to 300Mhz, and then step it. This will conserve power. It's not based on the disappointing power schematics of the Phenom processors and is based off the more power efficient last-generation chips.

    Furthermore, AMD's desktop chipsets (780) have proven to be not only feature filled but power efficient in comparison to Intels current solutions.

    All this, taken with AMD's hybrid graphics approach that will not only provide greater power but flexibility, with no significant drop in battery life, to my knowledge. Just look at the desktop HD 3650s and their more powerful parts in the same series, they have been considered far more efficient than Nvidia's counterparts.

    Finally, AMD's Puma platform, pre-review we must see as encouraging. It won't be a Centrino beater, they're largely aimed at different markets - Centrino being for business or higher end. I think we'll find Puma solutions being very competitive in the consumer oriented notebooks.
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You work for AMD?

    Boy I really want to buy a fast processor so it can downclock and do nothing while it saves energy.

    What about when the thing is sucking juice?

    Intel 45nm turns off cores and can overclock / underclock single cores. So if you are doing a intensive single threaded task, 1 core off, 1 core overclocked.

    Intel's desktop chips are using less power than AMD's notebook chips.
     
  12. ssnseawolf

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    Actually, it appears he made a very valid point about the Turion power consumption. Having given Turion line up for dead long ago, I looked up the TDPs and the lower-end chips do a respectable 31 TDP. In that respect they indeed offer a power-usage advantage over Intel's current non-LV offerings (assuming AMD's TDP metrics are similar to Intel's).

    But the problem is still the performance-per watt. For Joe Sixpack, that doesn't matter a lick, but for the power/prosumer user that does make a difference.

    More importantly, the majority Intel's new Penryn chips arriving soon will have a TDP of 25W, rendering the Turion line inferior in both performance-per-watt and outright performance.

    There's indeed a case to be made for using Turion processors today if you really need to save that extra four watts and don't need as much horsepower with a low-end chip, but there remains little reason to go AMD.

    They do have sexy chipsets and IGPs in the pipeline but that's cold comfort to their processor division.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for the link.

    The information is old, however. Now that AMD is having trouble keeping their processors cool they may have altered their testing methodology.

    I haven't completely read the article yet, but back in the Northwood era Intel's TDP measurements were based on sustained 80% processor usage. Of course, that may have changed in the Prescott era as TDPs got out of hand and yet again with the current Core architecture.
     
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    Hi, if i purchase a x61 right now, can i return it maybe a week later free of charge? I want to take advantage of the 25% discount(which apparantly expires in 40minutes) but I want to see what new line product has to offer..

    thanks in advance
     
  16. ssnseawolf

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    You will be charged a 15% restocking fee, even if it is unopened (if it was a custom built-to-order). If you want to wait you could try ordering the unit with a part that pushes back the build time.
     
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    so if i cancel it before they ship it (build it? how will i know?) they won't charge the 15% restocking fee?
     
  18. ssnseawolf

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    They won't charge you if they haven't started building it. But the kicker is if the are in the process of building it, they will ship it to you and you will have to return it with the restocking fee. So even if it hasn't shipped, they may still charge you if the build has started.
     
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    bleh! for all I know they could *accidently* miss my cancellation request and just start building it only to realize it too late and charge me late fee! I hope they update their process of production or something online..

    Any idea on father's day sale based on previous trend?

    Thanks for the help so far.
     
  20. ssnseawolf

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    I've canceled two orders with no problems at all. They send you an email (and it's not even a standardized email, the rep just fires off whatever they choose to say) and are fairly prompt. It takes about a day or two to cancel.
     
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    I don't want to hijack the thread but because you mentioned that you canceled an order before, how long does it usually take to get a notebook from Lenovo? I ordered one 6/1 and it says estimated ship date is 6/23. Do you think it will take that long for a t61p? None of the parts I customized it with said that they will delay shipping or anything.
     
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