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    When will lenovo response the GPU issue?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by snk, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. snk

    snk Notebook Guru

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    When will lenovo response the GPU issue?
    (nvidia defective GPU issue)
     
  2. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    What issue?
     
  3. czhang

    czhang Notebook Consultant

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    If they aren't responding to it I think its safe to say that their products aren't affected.
     
  4. PocketAces21

    PocketAces21 Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you referring to the crashes during gaming on T61p's? I haven't heard much about that issue in a while (I had it a while back). The only way to fix it is to send it in and get it repaired.
     
  5. snk

    snk Notebook Guru

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    (nvidia defective GPU issue)
     
  6. Lew

    Lew Notebook Deity

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    How is it affecting you?
     
  7. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    I haven't heard of very many problems with GPUs. I doubt Lenovo will say anything if they aren't experiencing major problems. It would be a bad public relations move for them. They are using ATI cards for the T400/T500/W500 now.
    Tim
     
  8. Paul386

    Paul386 Notebook Evangelist

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    I am willing to bet that the Quadro cards are less affected compared to the GeForce cards. Also, not all cards are defective, as Nvidia fixed the mistake some time ago and all cards manufactured after that date are okay.
     
  9. josar

    josar Notebook Enthusiast

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    isnt the hardware on the quadro cards the same as the geforce cards... maybe your complaining about the lack of drivers?? you can easily convert your quadro over to newer geforce drivers (currently running 177.89 for my NVS 140m)
     
  10. webdtc

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    I wonder why Lenovo switched to ATI cards?

    Makes me feel bad that I got the last batch of Nvidia cards that made them want to switch to ATI :)

    I do have the 2 dimm gaming issue. That can be fixed by sending the laptop in and getting the motherboard replaced. Although the official cause has something to do with the motherboard not being able to handle voltages from the graphics card. Which from my view is a problem with the graphics card as much as the mb.

    There was also that report a month or two ago that said the number one cause of BSOD was from Nvidia.

    And then there is the current issue where Nvidia admits that pretty much all their chips manufactured over the past 2 years are defective. Common thought is that this includes the Quadro chips which are the same as the GeForce versions, but that was never officially confirmed and I have not heard anything about people's Quadros failing yet. Right now it's all worries. But, it would be awful if they were also defective as warranties will start to run out.

    I bought a T61 because I believed it was a superior product that would last at least 4 years. If the graphics card is indeed defective then that won't be the case and it's likely the failure will happen after my warranty is done. It would be nice to have an official statement saying whether the quadros are affected to give current buyers some piece of mind or options.

    I think all these issues with Nvidia's cards is one of the reasons a lot of machines are using ATI now.
     
  11. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    The cooling system in thinkpad is one of the best, unlink dell or HP that has to update the BIOS for the fan. I'd say thinkpad has the lowest risk of failing.
     
  12. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well it is important to remember that it was the packaging and not the cards themselves that caused the problem. The cards are fine as long as they were packaged correctly.
    Tim
     
  13. miro_gt

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    my so called defective 140m overclocks as hell (and is stable), performing side by side with other much more powerful cards .. ahahaha.
     
  14. Elite Cataphract

    Elite Cataphract Notebook Evangelist

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    So you would recommend the Quadro FX graphics cards over the GeForce? I though Quadro FX GPUs weren't as good.
     
  15. Arki

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    It depends on what you plan to do with your notebook. The Quadro series are for professional work such as CAD or DCC. The GeForce is for gaming. You could "hack" the Quadro card by installing its counterpart GeForce driver which enables it to run games 99% as well as it's GeForce brother.

    Example, the Quadro FX 570M is the business equivalent of the GeForce 8600M GT. If you installed 8600M GT drivers on a system with the 570M, the 570M will perform 99% as well as the 8600M GT. At least that's what I've read.
     
  16. dohuy

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    I don't know. It looks like my Quadro card might be overheating. Take a look at my temperatures in the attached screenshot. The heat from the Quadro card seems to be affecting processor temps as well. I managed to get these temperature readings while going for about an hour on Half Life 2: Deathmatch. The only thing, despite what I think are high temperatures, is that the computer remains 100% stable. Anyone want to shed some light on whether or not these readings are typical? Don't mind the MIN temperatures because I wasn't using HWMonitor when my computer was idle.
     

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    ^ that's what I get for my GPU while overclocked. With AC working in the room, it maxes out at 80 deg C with the laptop being put on 1/4 inch stands. The overclock is at 648/900 MHz core/memory
     
  18. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah that is normal dohuy. If you want to cool your laptop a little bit (which is always a good idea even if you don't have an overheating problem) check out the cooling guide. I recommend a notebook cooler and undervolting. Make sure you blow out your fans with compressed air too.
    Tim