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    Which IBM is this?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by kobe_24, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. kobe_24

    kobe_24 Notebook Deity

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    I need your help. Someone is selling this notebook, and I need to know which model it is. There's a picture of it, it looks like the T60 but I'm not sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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  2. XX55XX

    XX55XX Notebook Evangelist

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    T4x, I believe. With the x standing for either a 0, 1, 2, or 3.
     
  3. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    Looks like a R60 or T60 to me since the Centrino Duo sticker comes from the Napa era so it's either of those but you could just ask the seller what model it is since its displayed on the LCD Bezel.
     
  4. kobe_24

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    I just talked with the seller, she's at work. Of course that was one of the first questions I did ask, but she didn't know. I don't believe she has too much knowledge of computers, so I didn't want to ask too many leading questions. :D

    She said it powers on but doesn't go into windows, so I'll gladly take that off her hands! 6pm is still a long ways off, I just hope she doesn't change her mind or do something foolish like searching through eBay or something. :eek:

    The R60 never crossed my mind, I think that is exactly what it is. Eitherway, I'll let you know tonight, thanks for the input!
     
  5. grodem

    grodem Notebook Guru

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    Circa ??? Just Curious
     
  6. turqoisegirl08

    turqoisegirl08 Notebook Evangelist

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    Judging by the lack of red and blue accents on the buttons above the trackpad, the keyboard layout, and 4:3 screen ratio I would guess T/R 60 series.
     
  7. Thors.Hammer

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    Looks like a T60p with the 15" screen to me.
     
  8. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    4:3 T60. Could be 14 or 15" hard to tell without more photos.
     
  9. not.sure

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    Ironically, if it's 14" and "1050p" it's significantly better than any lenovo 14" you can buy today. sigh :/
     
  10. Thors.Hammer

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    What is 1050p?
     
  11. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    T42/T43/T60/T61 14-inch "High Definition" 1480x1050 screen.
     
  12. Thors.Hammer

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    I think you mean 1400x1050 (SXGA+) or 1680x1050 (WSXGA+). I don't believe any ThinkPad has ever been sold with a 1480x1050 screen.

    Certainly one has never been marketed as 1050p.
     
  13. mochaultimate

    mochaultimate Notebook Consultant

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    Obviously one has never been marketed as 1050p, that nomenclature hadn't been invented yet.

    The poster already stated "1050p" in this post which presumably means that he is aware of this.

    What exactly is the point of your posts? "1050p" would quite clearly mean 1050 vertical pixels, not sure why you'd feel the need to police this forum thus?
     
  14. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    Eh, google/bing that anytime.

    Yeah, humor carries the day.

    A "wise" "mod" (note the quotes) in the making?
     
  15. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Police? I asked what 1050p was because I had never heard of it, and like the saying goes, you can learn something new every day.

    Then 1480x1050 was thrown out there so I decided to check the ThinkPad WIKI to see what beast of a machine used a LCD panel like that.

    I didn't see one so I felt it would be prudent to point out the correct information so that someone else wasn't learning inaccurate information.

    Man, you took that to the gutter.
     
  16. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    This part is interesting:

     
  17. kobe_24

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    $40

    Sorry I waited so long, but I was testing battery life. It is indeed a r60. I'll start with the good, which is plenty. The notebook is in pristine condition, 9 cell battery is new, keyboard new, even the stickers on the palm rest are new. I took it apart briefly to add 2x2GB RAM and to ensure there was no dust or faulty parts inside the machine. I installed windows 7, which works flawlessly on this machine. I downloaded and played this video from GD Studios (Quakelive tournament), it is almost 5 hours long. I played the video while on battery power and it played the full video and I still had 20 percent battery life left..WTH??????? :D

    Now the bad. I have two display options, 800x600 and 1024x768! :eek: I literally laughed my butt off! :D

    I guess the 1024x768 display, T2300 CPU and the GMA Graphics Unit allows this system to run off battery power for extended periods of time.

    All in all, a very good deal for my new road warrior!

    QUESTION

    Anyway to use a different IDE DVD drive with IBM? The IDE connector on the IBM DVD rom is different than that of the non IBM IDE DVD rom drives. I just want to add a DVD burner and ditch the DVD read only drive.
     
  18. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    Congratulations!

    Regarding a replacement DVD burner, this might work.
     
  19. kobe_24

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    I'm sure that would work, but I was wondering if there's something I can do to make the others work? Like disassemble the IBM DVD drive, extract or dismount the IDE connector from it and add it to one of the many other non IBM Burners I have?


    BTW...that burner is almost half of what I paid for the complete system! :D


    Ok, I took apart 5 different drives and all of them had different size zif connectors, so it doesn't work. If the zif connectors were the same size, it would be easy as just removing/exchanging the pcb boards. :|
     
  20. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    I guess you could. But would $20 save a lot of trouble? (Ah, half the price of the jewel you've just found. :D)
     
  21. ThinkRob

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    And on that note:

    Referring to SXGA+ as "1050p" when referring to a laptop LCD screen is (to say the least) unusual, as the "p" suffix would indicate "progressive scan" -- something which itself makes little sense to specify when you're talking about a notebook screen.

    The trend of describing laptop screens as "1080p" comes from the fact that most consumers know or care little about display specifications past wanting "the best" for as little as they can pay. Most people vaguely recognize "1080p" as something desirable from the world of HDTVs (where i/p actually does matter), thus laptop vendors have seized on the use of the term as a sort of shorthand for 1920x1080.

    Now, back on topic...

    You should be able to pick up pretty much any 12.5" PATA bay drive and use it as they're pretty standardized. About the only thing that will differ siginificantly is the presence or absence of a spacer on the back of the drive (you can re-use the one from the existing drive) or the faceplate. The faceplate mounting should be standard too, so you should be able to just pop one off of your old drive (assuming the replacement is a tray-loader). Failing that, it's Dremel time! ;)
     
  22. kobe_24

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    I thought the same thing ThinkRob, but it is not the case. The DVD rom drives for ThinkPad(s) R50, R50p, R51, R52, R60, R61, R61i, Z60m, Z61e, Z61m, and the Z61p differ from the standard IDE connector.
     
  23. ThinkRob

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    No, they don't.

    They're not IDE connectors like you'd find inside a desktop, but they *are* standard for bay drives. Pretty much any ODM-made laptop from that time period with a swappable drive will use that connector; Sony, Dell, IBM, Lenovo -- assuming the height and the faceplates fit you can pretty much swap any drive into any laptop from that period.

    This connector is the one I'm referring to: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5329/2510popticaldriveconnecv.jpg
     
  24. kobe_24

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    I've been tearing apart notebooks since I was 12 ThinkRob (I believe that is how old I was when I joined this site), so I would definitely know what you're referring to. I will never forget my mom scolding me for taking apart her company issued T61, I was hooked on phonics, I mean destroying stuff ever since. :eek:

    Anyway...here's a picture of a few drives, guess which one belongs to the ThinkPad r60? I threw in a SATA drive just for heck of it.

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    Cheat

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