Why Isn't Lenovo Stepping up their Game?

Seriously the x250 has got more or less the same power cpu/ram/everything as 3generation older x220
Same goes for other lenovo ''business'' class laptops, more or less same specs just in a little bit different case every time.. What's wrong with you lenovo?

 

This is the same for all laptops, Moore's law died 3 three years ago.

http://techland.time.com/2012/05/01/the-collapse-of-moores-law-physicist-says-its-already-happening/

 

Yea, it's funny how the T420 I am currently using docked still kicks butt. i7-2640QM, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Optimus graphics, ultrabay, driving three external monitors. The 1600x600 screen is rather lame but usable when needed. Hoping to replace it soon with a T450p, T450s, X1 Carbon Gen 3, or maybe something else.

Problem is, they all have some tradeoff right now.

1. T450 lacks a good FHD IPS screen option.
2. T450s is close to perfect but is a little limited on RAM unless I buy a 16GB SODIMM.
3. T450p is still unannounced so who knows what specs it will have.
4. I don't like the keyboards on the new W5xx machines otherwise I'd consider one. Plus they are just too heavy.
   
5. X1 docking seems problematic. I would like to know if the chassis mini DP connection will run at 2560x1440 when using the Onelink Dock Pro to drive two other displays. In other words, can you drive three external displays?

Maybe the rumored mystery notebook will be perfect.

 

Several valid points you've certainly made. I'd say that the current X1C is by far the most interesting offering from Lenovo's business class this year. However, non-upgradeable 8GB RAM cap is just outright laughable in my opinion.

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

Yea, 8GB is a problem for me as well. At least the price has come down and the gen 3 is much better than the gen 1 and 2. Those were jokes.

 

I find the L450 to be my favorite ThinkPad this round, though I was always a R series kind of guy. While 3/4 heavier than the T450s, it's $200 less expensive and I'm more into saving money than weight.

I think most end users of the X series would prefer battery life to performance, which is you're seeing ULV CPUs and limited memory options.

 

I was somewhat disappointed at the newly released T450s. Considering the fact that I am still using my 9-year old T60 (w/SSD), and it's still serving me well, do you guys think there will be noticeable improvement if I upgrade to T450s?

By the way, I tried to configure a T450 and a T450s today, and interestingly with the exact same configuration, the T450s was actually cheaper than the T450 by about 20 bucks, it seems like a no brainer to go with the T450s, will I miss anything by not going with the T450?

 

While the T450 supports 32GB RAM, the T450s only supports 20GB.

 

True, but the FHD IPS panel is not offered on the T450 and that's the only LCD worth having on a 14" ThinkPad nowadays, at least IMO. If the T450p ever shows up, it should be able to resolve this "dilemma"...

It's definitely a more powerful system than your T60p. You may or may not like the feel and build of the newer T-series, since they're very different from what you're used to.

 

You're just seeing the changing landscape of business computing, and computing in general. For 95% of users, current ULV CPUs offer more than enough computing power for their needs: the new benchmarks in a world where many business users rely on tablets as primary on-the-go computing are battery life and size/weight. Lenovo's just catering to that need.

If I were to buy a brand new Thinkpad today, I'd probably be going for the X1C.

 

most of the workers at corporations are probably fine with the CPU from the X220. CPU design is driven more by energy saving than by outright processing power. My X220 i7 with 1 tb SSD and 16 gigs of ram feels faster than the T440s that i have. I would consider upgrading to the X250 because it has the same battery life as my X220 with the slice, and the FHD LCD is what i need.

 

Lead_org it only feels faster because of the SSD.. honestly i5 and i7 is just marketing thing,they have got exactly the same power for these lenovo laptops ,ok maybe i7 is ~5-10% faster but that's about it.
However most of the people think that it's like super huge jump because there's also huuge jump in price just because of the name, seriously feel sorry for people who fall for this

 

The big jump is from dual to quad cores for certain chores like video encoding. The extra horsepower is really apparent then.

 

Profit margin is probably higher for them with the recent lineups, them losing a few thousand die hard fans isn't going to put a dent in their accounts. The recent scandal with the adware will have an affect on the p/l but they still have numerous contracts with businesses although the u.s. govt. dropped them. Difficult finding a replacement, I like HP but the IPS displays on TP is a real plus.

 

except no i7 for lenovo has got quad core, all of them are dual cores!

 

What do you call http://ark.intel.com/products/70847/Intel-Core-i7-3740QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz then???

 

which lenovo have these?
w530 seems to have them..well I stand corrected than!
Looks like nice laptop but still not much point upgrading from my current x230 with 16gb ram/500gb ssd

 

My guess would be W530 to begin with, closely followed by T530.

 

People that use quad core thinkpads with 32gb of ram typically need them. Encoding in the field far from a real desktop makes you appreciate a portable quad workstation. Virtualization is the big ram suck.
Trust me, I know all about both.

 

Heck, even I have a "old" (2011) Lenovo Y470, with a i7-2630QM (4 cores, 8 threads), 8 GB RAM.

What do I do with the power? Satellite imaging, and converting videos.

No really! Moar Power is crucial for J-Track.

http://science.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html/

 

I was using a T60 (normal HD) until last year when I got the T440s. My T60 just couldn't handle modern multimedia stuff anymore - stuttering in online videos, netflix, etc. I hate the new click pad, but that won't be an issue any more. Even the LG screen is an improvement on the screen on my T60 - it's mostly annoying when doing tasks with white background windows. The battery life is better, but has definitely deteriorated since I bought it - it seems really sensitive to load, so I guess when it's mostly idling it's pretty efficient. They've FINALLY sorted out the wireless drivers, though I get very occasional random drops still. I can play modernish games, though I mostly get stuff from GOG.com - however, things like the first Witcher, or ARMA 2 ran pretty well.