Widescreen T, detailed spec?

As the new x60 tablet arrived, the widescreen T should be very close. I heard rumors that it will be released shortly after the Thanksgiving.

Anyone knows the upcoming machine's spec? particularly the screen and the graphic card. Will it be IPS or the same screen as Z? The graphic card, will it have a non-professionaly card more powerful than the x1400?

An IPS screen and x1600 on the widescreen T would be dream come true!!

 

I think if anyone had that info we'd have it posted already.

 

would a widescreen T basically just be a lightweight Z?

 

Likely with a better build and components, yes.

 

I don't know if the specs are going to change outside of it being a widescreen version of the T series. I'm not sure what better components they could install in it unless they offer a faster video card like the X1600 but that's probably unlikely since these are business class notebooks and the P series already has the high-end workstation graphics card. I don't think the build quality of the T series is any better than the Z series. I have a Z61m now and I don't see anything with the T series that is better constructed. If anything the Z series is better built than the T series because the Z61m is pretty solid. Anyways, the new T series widescreen laptops will be released on November 28th for those who are waiting to order one.

 

There is no such thing as a widescreen IPS....so don't waste time hoping for it.

 

This is EXACTLY what I am waiting for. If anyone has anymore info, please chime in!

 

I got a quote about a week ago and I really want to purchase the T60 i configured at a good price. The ONLY reason I have not purchased it is because of all the negative comments I read on here about the 14.1" screen. My quote lasts past 11/28 and im hoping that the screen or graphics card will improve.

QUESTION: Is the screen on the Z series 14" significantly better then that of the T60? Is it worth waiting for the widescreen 14" even if it has the same screen as a Z.

By the way my quote right now is

T60 Core 2 duo 7200
14.1" SXGA
80GB 5300 hardrive
CD/DVD drive
802.11 a/b/g/n
1400X ATI
1.5 G RAM
6 cell battery

For $1184 after taxes.


I think I got a good deal

Can I get some feedback on my quote?
Also what brand (make) is the best 14.1" screen?
Is there anything i can say to my represenative to guarantee me a the better make of screen?

 

That is a good quote. About the screen, can't say, will likely be similar to that of Z.

 

Would you say the Z screen is much better then the 14.1" T screen?

 

There are a number of larger desktop widescreen LCD's that use S-IPS technology so I don't know why they couldn't make a smaller widescreen version if they can make a standard 4:3 one. I wouldn't bother personally though because for the cost of the upgrade you can buy a nice 20.1" widescreen LCD to run dual display with your laptop.

 

I should have stated that a little clearer...I mean't a widescreen 14.1" IPS screen is highly, highly unlikely.

 

Is the Z screen better than T? Can't say, haven't compared the two. Look at reviews for both.

What video card (if any) or resolution is needed to do external dual display?

 

Two external displays, while still using the notebook monitor, or no?

 

Well, both scenerios (so I guess that would mean 3 monitors if you include the laptop dispolay). Two external OR one external, one laptop display.

 

I would think the X1400 would be the minum for 3 displays.
Integrated can do a desktop extension and clone, but I think thats it.

 

I'm holding out for a 15.4" IPS screen; regarding screen quality on Z vs. T, I purchased a Z61M and returned it b/c I thought the display was quite lackluster (granted, I'm being rather critical, using the machine for photography and design); in short, I'm waiting for the 28th with crossed fingers.......

btw, I have heard/read rumors that a widescreen 15.4 T60P w/IPS is to be announced (knock on wood.....)

 

why can't people be contented with the new x-series tablet and find for widescreened-T that should not be widescreened?

oh, why can't they make a thinner Z-series... like Z62p? hehe

 

OR.. Why dont they just release a Z60t with a darn x1400 or x1600 and then the floodgates would open. Ive been sitting here for a month waiting on this supposed 11/28 announcement. Everytime i read that notebookreview.com review on the T60 14.1 screen I just cant get myself to purchase. Its soo frustrating.

 

no one's saying a widescreen T-series would mean the end of the fullscreen ones, just an option

this almost makes more sense, and I'd be just as content if they made the Z series more T-ish (thinner, better build quality, and get rid of that awful Titanium lid)

I actually want the Intel GMA video for various reasons (battery life, better linux support, open sourced drivers) and will be pretty P.O.ed if the widescreen T winds up happening without an option for GMA graphics.



People keep saying (particularly in this forum) that there is no need or use for a widescreen display, but i disagree. Bypassing the obvious movies argument, I actually find myself often wishing that I had a widescreen display rather than my current SXGA+ 4:3 display. The reason is that I do a lot of programming (CECS major and part time software developer) and my usual configuration is to have two text editors side by side so that together they take up the entire screen. (This comes in handy if I have to reference another class while writing another) sometimes, I'll even have an AIM/Jabber/Whatever window open to the right of those windows if I'm talking to any of the other project's developers while I'm coding. As you might imagine, this leads to very tall, narrow wndows, and lines of code can be particularly long, and I dislike word-wrapping code (with how often during testing/debugging line and column numbers are mentioned, it makes no sense to me to mess with them by wrapping lines, not using word wrap generally makes the code look neater as well.)

Anyways, long story short, given the way I work, which is horizontally arranged applications, a widescreen display would give me a better view of what I'm doing, which is why I'm holding out for the widescreen T series.

 

Question zac or anyone else with the 14.1" screen.

Im going to use my notebook primarily for business but may ocassionally watch a film. Can it be watched on a normal screen or is more like watching a dvd on a 4:3 screen.? Does the refresh rate cause a problem?

 

I tried a couple movies just to see how they would play and I get the full-screen look on my T60 w/X1400. Picture flows smoothly, with no problems.

 

I actually have a 15" screen.

But, I'm not exactly sure what you're asking? If you watch a widescreen video on a 4:3 screen, then yes, it will be letterboxed.

Just remembered another reason I'd favor widescreen: my current notebook is too tall. With the 9 cell battery, that makes the closed notebook too deep from front to back to fit into the notebook compartment of my backpack, and putting it in the main section stretches the sides of my backpack a little. Some people have told me to just buy a new backpack, but obviously upgrading my laptop is the more logical solution

 

funny, my 15" T43 barely fits in my backpack due to the width. No chance something with a screen the size of a friend's E1505 would fit.

 

I AGREE! this is the answer to all of us who wants a widescreen with a blue-button on top

and by the way, i still like the titanium

 

Here's the problem. I can't see Lenovo releasing a hot T product right in the middle of their holiday sale. Will the widescreens follow the holiday sale? Since I got such a great quote and widescreens are cheaper to make then 4:3 screens shouldnt i be able to switch screens on my laptop with no problem? Will it be available in 14"? I just want 11/28 to roll by so i can make my decision.

 

COZ007. I am in the exactly same situation as u. I really hoped that they could make more powerful graphic card or IPS available on the widescreen T. However all the information I have heard suggests that the only difference between the regular T and the widescreen T would be the screen.

Good thing is that the current holiday sale lasts until 12/11, which means we have enough time to see what will happen. I will be crying if I order a T60 now and find later that better parts are available on the widescreen T, although the chance is slim at best.

 

I honestly don't think a "widescreen T60" will happen. The widescreen T60 is the Z60. Ok? It's already here. Plus, that would kill off the Z60 if they did it, so no, most likely not.

Matt

 

There's a browser available that supports widescreen monitors 19"+
with 1440x900 resolution. It's called WSbrowser (WideScreen browser) freeware.

You'll find it here:
http://www.freewebs.com/wsbrowser

 

My rep told me that if i wanted to extend my quote he would do so past the one month mark. I think my decision will be made on or by december 1. AND I will only get the new widescreen if

A) Screen is better
B) Better graphics card is available
C) Its around the same price as the extremely low quote I just got.

Also I want a 14". Some of the rumors flying around that its only for a 15"p

What I also dont understand is why wait so looooong. Christmas is right around the corner If it takes a month to ship these darn things wouldnt they want the widescreen sales now. That way they can make some of the christmas dates.

 

It's an interesting thought that a widescreen t would possibly kill the z. That, however, is not a bad thing. There's no reason why Lenovo shouldn't be able to squeez all the features of the z61m into a thinner, lighter package. That's what I'm hoping for. The z61m is my perfect laptop except for the size/weight. I'm going to be all over this and Lenovo's website on the 28th, and if it's as good as it could be I'm buying just as soon as I've got the money.

 

Now my question is whether the Z series screen is much better then the T 4:3 screen.



From thinkpads.com forums

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: Widescreen T60 - Countdown and Rumors

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With the unavailability of the T60p's with 1600x1200 screens, I had almost purchased a Dell D820. But in the end, I've decided to just stick it out. Now I'm anxiously waiting for the arrival of the new widescreen T-series. It appears to be coming by the end of the month.. so I figured it's about time to start a thread to collect any and all news about its release. I'll start with some links:

Original rumor from Laptop Logic:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=1256

Scheduled Widescreen T-series Workshop at Harvard for 11/30:
http://www.uis.harvard.edu/technology_services/technology_workshops.php

I also spoke with a Lenovo sales rep today. He says that they just went through sales training for the new widescreen T-series, although he doesn't know exactly when they will be released just yet. But he did say that they are identical in specs to the current T-series, except that they have the widescreen.

 

No offence, but where have you been?
The rumors of the widescreen T series have been confirmed to be true.
It will happen, it's just a matter of when.

 

i'd wait for the X60 tablet with dedicated graphics card then

better yet, a T60 with touchscreen support

 

I don't think price would be a concern if such a beast were to immerge

I to have been holding off on my T60 purchase until the unveiling of this T60 with widescreen. I hope we are in for some surprises with the configs. Most likely it will be just like what you all predicted but.....

 

by the way, will lenovo think of producing 17inchers? dell, hp, apple has them. then slap them all with IPS and we have the war of titans

 

one of the people who knows where to find these things will have to tell us if anyone makes a laptop-suitable 17-inch screen. IBM doesn't make the screens, so they are limited to using IPS screens that exist.

 

Let us see what this widescreen T has to offer.

 

I would be disappointed if it is just identical to the regular T except the screens. I just noticed they changed the whole holiday sales pages' layout. Prices seem to go up too. Heck, I can't even find x1400 as an option in any T60 configuration page.

 

Really? Well you have to configure a SXGA+ screen first, in order for that option to even be available.

I'm not expecting anything different other than the screen being different. At the most, a higher end graphics card, but beyond that, what can we expect?

 

Oh, yeah. You are right. The x1400 option won't be revealed unless u select the SXGA+ screen. The whole configuration page looks kinda tricky.

The big thing I have expecting on the widescreen T is a better graphic card other than the professional firegl cards. The x1400 in T60 simply won't cut it in the future. I have seen somewhere even the high end T60P with the highest Coreduo 2.33Ghz and the firegl v5200 card only scored 4.2 in the Windowsvista beta build in benchmark. Needless to say, the bottleneck has to be the video card.

 

We don't know enough to conclude whether the machine will work flawlessly with Vista, as Vista will likely have bugs for the first year (most OSs do). I've heard of experienced individuals running Vista on a Pentium M, with X300 graphics, at the most, just fine. You don't need to worry about running Vista as much as you do 64-bit programs (which will need certain software and Vista to support them).

Vista will run fine, all aspects of Aero, with the X1400.

 

Good info to know.

 

Heck, GMA 950 will run vista fine, aero and all.

No seriously. Few believe it but it's 100% true.

 

It's believable. They just want you to spend money on the most expensive, up-to-date technology which is almost never worth purchasing. Remember the price of DVD players when they were first released? Now look at the price. Well we are still using them, and it will be a good 2 years+ before we are full-fledged blue-ray. Albiet, computer technology moves more rapidly than home theatre, but many, many people purchase computer hardware power, far in excess of what they need. The programs they run don't even utilize the hardware they have purchased, so it is a lost cause, a sunk cost.

 

I am actually considering going with the GMA this time around.

 

I could care less about Vista. I used a '00 desktop PC running Windows 98 and after it died this year I strated using XP. XP for another 5 years is the plan.

The same with 64-bit computing. I don't think it will improve my email and Web surfing experience.

 

You're right in that respect.

 

When they talk about more "real estate" for the widescreen, I wonder if they are talking only about the 15" model, or that they are better on the fact that 14" model will have wsxga+ screen.

From the look at the Z model, I only see wsxga+ screen on the 15" model, and only with wsxga+ screen will you have more "real estate" on the 14" comparing to the sxga+ model. 1680x1050 vs 1400x1050.

If the 14" model comes with 1440x900, wouldn't you gain only 40 H. pixels in loosing 150 V. pixels.

 

Yup.
Personally, I love my, now my wifes, t60 with the 14" sxga+, but the buying point for me on the widescreens, is the form factor. I prefer a shorter screen for taking notes during class.
Just personal preference for me, though I do understand when comparing wxga to sxga, you are infact loosing screen real estate.