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    Win 10 1607 T510/T520/T530 etc. Warning

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by zephxiii, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. zephxiii

    zephxiii Notebook Geek

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    If you are running Win 10 on T510/T520/T530, T4xx equivalent, or generational equivalent:

    Make sure to install the Intel Rapid Storage Driver here:
    http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds103077

    and get all latest Cumulative Updates.

    Reason being is that the Microsoft AHCI SATA controller driver in 1607 release caused some major problems...system freezes, data corruption to the point of needing to reinstall 10 in some cases. The October Cumulative updates have fixes to resolve "Storage File System" reliability issues.

    By default 10 will use the MS AHCI SATA driver.

    On my own T510 (and 3 other machines with M500) at work i had constant problems with system freezes where the HD would be come unresponsive with Event ID 129 and 51.

    I originally though it to be a problem with the M500 SSD drive, eventually I found it to be the driver.

    I have had one other system have so much data corruption that it stopped booting into windows.

    I just had a friend's T410 just stop booting into 10 due to this issue.

    Ever since installing the Intel RST driver and getting latest Cumulative updates, all problems have gone away.

    A lot of other people have had similar problems here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/...ws_10_fully_freezes_after_anniversary_update/
     
  2. abhattal

    abhattal Notebook Enthusiast

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    For info : my T410s which was upgraded by the Microsoft process (not a wipe / clean install) has the following driver : "Intel(R) 5 Series 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller", provider "Intel", version "11.2.0.1006". Perhaps the in-place upgrade leaves this alone. Or maybe because I also have Thinkpad System Update on the box it was fixed. Anyway, I guess I'm fine.

    Which is more than can be said for the Thinkpad on-screen brightness / volume controls (missing), power manager (missing), and the sound (which is just slightly distorted - weird).
     
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  3. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Can't speak for the other programs, but Power Manager isn't compatible with Windows 10 (or 8, or 8.1)
     
  4. abhattal

    abhattal Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, offically it seems 30-series Thinkpads are the oldest supported systems for Windows 10, see https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/ht103535. This document lists incompatible applications, including Power Manager, https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/ht103615.

    Also found this on forums.lenovo.com : The [Lenovo Settings] Dependency Package is a set of prerequisite services/drivers that are needed to use the upcoming Metro app called "Lenovo Settings". Inside Lenovo Settings you'll be able to adjust power, location, camera, audio, etc settings that are specific to your thinkpad. This metro app replaces Power Manager, Communications Utility, and Access Connections that you might be used to for Win7.

    OK, so Power Manager is probably impossible and I guess Lenovo Settings won't work on a 10-series machine. I wonder if anyone has got the on-screen utilities working on 10-series Thinkpads somehow. Now that I have entitlement to Windows 10 (by upgrading), I sometimes think of going back to Windows 7, but I'll probably just put up with the irritants. It can't be that hard to port at least the on-screen volume and brightness displays to Win 10 surely :-( And why are the built-in Windows ones so awful ?.
     
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  5. freddell

    freddell Notebook Enthusiast

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    On screen volume, brightness all works fine on T400 with W10.
    Just try Lenovo Settings if you dont have it now.
    In fact apart from switchable graphics, I cant remember anything I lack on Windows 10.
    All my current thinkpads run W7 and I just gave my T410 to my sister.
     
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    abhattal Notebook Enthusiast

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    Doesn't do much for me, adding Lenovo Settings gets me a battery gauge in the task bar (which is nice), but that's it. Adjusting the volume or brightness via the hardware keys (volume) or Fn-Home and Fn-End (brightness) works as before : the unattractive little Windows vertical on-screen slider is still shown in each case (and brightness jumps in slightly annoyingly large steps). The nice horizontal Thinkpad on-screen graphics for these is still not present. It's like the on-screen part of the Thinkpad hot-key integration is missing.
     
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