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    Wireless Experts: Is this a genuine Atheros ABGN CARD and is better then my Intel 4965ABGN?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by BNHabs, May 2, 2009.

  1. BNHabs

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    Is this a genuine Atheros ABGN CARD and is better then my Intel 4965ABGN? Also, how does this compare to the Intel 5300.

    Which one do I buy? First or second Link?

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  2. erik

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    atheros cards run hot and aren't as good on battery power as intel.   if you're considering dumping your 5300 and the modded BIOS then just go back to the 4965 AGN.   there's nothing wrong with a 4965 AGN and i have yet to see any evidence proving otherwise.

    i have a 5300 in my X61s and it performs exactly the same as my 4965 AG and AGN in terms of connection quality, reliability, and speed.   the 5300 is only beneficial to those with high-speed draft-N access points.   even then, the 4965 connects at around 270 MBps, plenty for most people's use.

    rather than throwing more money at something that isn't broken, go back to a factory BIOS and your 4965 AGN.   that's my expert advice. ;)
     
  3. BNHabs

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    I appreciate your help, but that's not my question... I don't care about the money factor as well. Which would be better, Atheros ABGN or Intel 4965ABGN or Intel 5300?
     
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    i already told you three times above.   please read the following quotes carefully and you will have your answer.
     
  5. Hep!

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    Why wouldn't you want to keep the Intel 5300?
     
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    It makes my system crash, meaning the drivers are not that good for my T61. Also, I heard Atheros makes better cards.
     
  7. Renee

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    You have not told the OP anything. If the OP hadn't told you, I would have. The Atheros card is better. It has nothing to do with whether the 4965 is a bad card or not.
    -Renee
     
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    Errrrrrrrrm.
    Drivers are drivers. It's not "drivers for a 5300 for a T61."
    Install the latest official intel drivers, see if the crashing persists.
     
  9. BNHabs

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    How about Atheros ABGN and Intel 5300? Also, click the two links in my first post, which is the one I should buy?
     
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    I installed the latest Intel drivers from the Lenovo site. My T61 would randomly crash/freeze big time about every 25-40 minutes. It would freeze in such a way that you have to do a hard reboot. I also looked on a forum and another person had the same issue as me so I don't think my Intel 5300 is defective.
     
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    the 5300 uses the same drivers as the 4965.

    http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-70505

    they aren't any better.   they only run hotter and use more battery life.
     
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    Then I guess the Intel 5300 has a compatibility issue with my T61 because my 4696ABGN causes no crashes. I don't think the 5300 is defective because I found another person who had the same issue as well. I feel like doing a wireless upgrade from my 4965ABGN so if Intel 5300 does not work well then I would consider the Atheros ABGN. You are incorrect about the Atheros card BTW. It may use more battery life and run hotter but I think it's performance is unmatched according to people.
     
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    i've had better connections with my 4965 AGN than i did with my atheros ABGN card in both a T61p and an X61s.   i have yet to read any definitive evidence proving the atheros cards are better.   wireless connectivity depends on the card, the antenna system in the notebook, the access point, distances from the notebook to the access point, objects/walls in between all antennas, drivers, and power settings in the OS.   even if someone anecdotally says one is better, i take it with a grain of salt.   everything depends on way too many factors to definitively say one is markedly better than the other.
     
  14. Renee

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    Actually, I had a t61p and it needed a card. Lenovo had both an Atheros and an intel - I tried for the atheros but was unsucessful so I don't have the experience you have with the two cards. But I do have experience with the t61p and it's radiating system. But the wisdom of this forum at the time was that AN Atheros card was better than an Intel card but you are correct in it being multi-determined.
    Renee