Worried about t series 14in laptops...

Im worried that lenovo will resort to only 1366x768 screens for this segment. Way too small for that size and market IMHO.

 

I'm pretty sure there is a HD+ resolution (1600x900) for the upcoming T420? Though I agree the "standard" size of 1366x768 is not very practical if you're doing office work or designing...

 

HD+ screens are optional, just like WXGA+ was in 16:10.

 

Better than the stock WXGA (1280x800) panels from before at least, but 14" will also most likely have a HD+ (1600x900) panel, which is also better than their previous WXGA+ (1440x900) panel. IMO nothing to worry about...

 

Well, I don't know about 1600x900 being "better than" 1440x900, but liquidxit2 should enjoy life than having this kind of worry! Life is full of choices and options.

 

Lets hope they open this option up on the 1420

100% disagree. 1280x800 is ALOT better then 1366x768.

I would say in this case it is, but its not better then the 1680x1050 it replaced. I know there are bigger fish to fry, but Im just worried about my next purchase and what options will be available. Seems like alot of business modesl are dropping high resolution options.

 

I gotta agree 1280x800 is better than 1368x768. Business professionals do not need more horizontal real estate, we don't plan on watching movies all the time on our laptops.

1600x900 I think should be the bare minimum for 14" now as 1368x768 is unacceptable.

 

100% Agree.

 

I'm really not too broken up about 1368x768. Yeah, it's not great -- but not too long ago XGA was the standard for 14.1" notebooks, and remembering that makes this easier to take in stride.

Obviously I'd prefer the highest-resolution screen that I can get. Still, considering that my software environment is quite flexible, and that most of what I do is text-only, even XGA is tolerable with some tweaking.

 

1366x768 is OK in 12in and lower where I expect to have that type of resolution. But it still is painful for development or sys admin work. While I was able to do things fine on my m11x it was because it was an 11in screen that I was OK with it.

Thinking back on XGA type resolutions doesnt make me like the new resolutions because back then UI's were scaled for those resolutions. Todays UI's work better on a healthy amount of vertical resolution.

 

Here is my opinion of what the minimum resolutions should be:

10.1"
1366x768 (1024x600 sucks)

11.6"
1366x768

12.1"
1366x768

13.1/13.3"
1366x768 w/ options up to 1600x900 (1920x1080 for things like Vaio Z)

14.0"
1600x900 (possibly w/ options up to 1920x1080)

15.6"
1600x900 w/ options up to 2048x1152

16.4"-17.3"
1920x1080 w/ options up to 2048x1152

18.4"
1920x1080 w/ options up to 2560x1440


But yes, the new T420 series laptops will get an option for HD+. Lenovo's website even says so.
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/ww/wci/us/ww/pdf/t420_t520_datasheet.pdf

 

1368x768 is acceptable on 13.3" and smaller. My Latitude 13 is my multimedia/on the go laptop and I mean it isn't the greatest resolution but it is okay. Some higher end netbooks have 1368x768 resolution which is better than 1024x600.

 

Why is this shift in resolution (and consequent user-orientation) of the screen taking place? Is it primarily driven by the need to cater to increasingly multi-media consuming habits of the users - so emphasis on watching videos etc.?

I wonder if this shift is eventually going to affect how we work which, as someone pointed out above, albeit indirectly, is currently more oriented to vertically oriented screen estate - think spreadsheets, word documents etc.

 

No it's cause people scream for faster and cheaper laptops so quality goes down the drain. 4:3 screens died quickly in favor of 16:10, then 16:9 took over. At the rate we are going we are gonna hit 8:1 in a matter of 2 years.

Though Apple still use 16:10 so there are still manufacturers of 16:10 screens, just every other company has switched to 16:9 (HP, Dell) so Lenovo has no reason to stick to 16:10.

 

Maybe by then we would not need word documents or spreadsheets or other such like programs to work!!!!!

I am just not getting it!

 

For me the following:

12 and bellow 1366x768 at the very least with an option of 1600x900

13-14 require 1600x900 with options for 1080p

15+ 1920x1080 or higher.

I dont see why 1080p is the highest resolution available. There are so many of us that would LOVE something higher and pay for it. If there was something higher Id get back into the 17in segment probably.

As for work goes anything other then watching a movie sub 1600x900 is painful. Even then 900 vertical pixels can be a PITA. Trying to go through line after line of a less or more command, trying to code past 20 lines, documents, etc. For singel screen OS' multitasking can be quite a pain. For me I use the cube in linux so multitasking is fine for WXGA and WXGA+, but still vertical resolution is still effecting me.

I just hope for the sake of those of us that rely on work more then watching a movie and browsing the web that they will offer better resolution options. 1080p in a 14in would be perfect for the size and with the cost reduction of 16:9 it should be an option.

 

I bought a T410s to avoid the next generation's 1366 x 768, which I find next to useless for documents.

1600 x 900 may sound good to the young'uns here, but for an old dude like me I don't think my eyes could handle it.

 

1600x900 would be nice for a 14in, but I still want to see 1080p in a 14in thinkpad.

 

Well I don't understand why they couldn't leave 14.1, 15.4, and 17" and just have a different bezel for people who wanted 16:9 and left 16:10 alone and charged extra for 16:10.

 

You can't refer to a resolution without the context of a physical screen size. Plus, one must make personal assessments based on actual viewings and usage patterns.

In my design lab at work, I can line up an X201 12.1" 1280x800, a T410 14" 1440x900, a T510 15.6" 1920x1080, a Precision M6500 17" 1920x1200 and an EliteBook 8740w 17" 1920x1200. Display quality aside, those size-resolution combos are quite good - to my eyes.

A 1920x1080 resolution on a 13" or 14" screen would be too dense. Even with 1920x1080 on my T510, I have to enlarge the contents in Chrome and Word in order to read the texts comfortably - with my eyes.

The other night, I took out my Inspiron 1501 to clean it up before giving it to a relative. The screen, 15.4" 16:10 at 1280x800, looks really nice. I'm sure the quality (brightness, contrast, vivid colors) has a lot to do with my pleasant surprise, but the resolution of 1280x800 does not make - certainly has not made - the notebook unfit for productivity. The icons of Photoshop, Illustrator, Visio and ACDSee are still on the desktop!

 

Those resolutions sound so excessive. Desktop monitors in the 20-23 inch range are usually 1920x1080 or 1680x1050. Why would you want such a high resolution on a 14 inch laptop? Everything would be so tiny. You would definitely have to scale up font sizes, and so in the end, your usable area does not increase.

 

Different strokes for different folks. I remember WUXGA 15in laptops and loved that idea. The sony Z series is a great idea, but I cannot afford nor would I buy a sony (other then a viao p).

Again personal preference. I have great eyesight and would benefit greatly from a 1080p screen in a 14in laptop. On my 15.6 1080p screen I have everything scaled down. From web browsers to icons everything is much smaller then what it shipped as.

 

My (old, but still functioning quite well) T43p 15" 1600x1200 Flexview is great for graphics design, but texts tend to be too small. Anyhow, I always qualify my notes with "to my eyes ".

For those who love WUXGA: Lenovo ThinkPad T61p Laptop 15.4" WUXGA WIDESCREEN .

 

I agree wholly with Kaso. !5' is my size. I'm very sorry they are cutting the vertical space out.

Renee

 

For those who love QXGA: IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60 15" QXGA T7600/3GB/64G SSD T60P - eBay (item 250776948501 end time Mar-22-11 10:50:32 PDT)

Normally you sit further away from a desktop monitor, and normally desktop monitors can "afford" to be bigger in physical size. Also, a lot of people don't have to scale up the fonts. I don't on either of my laptops (15.4" 1920x1200, 15" 2048x1536)

 

Saw that a while back. Earlier, same seller listed a T60p/61p mod for over $1800.

 

Wow that t60 looks awesome. Id rock that as a desktop.