X1 Carbon Gen 2 (Haswell)

There's a hotspot from Verizon that has 15 hour battery. Plus the 9 hour battery of X1C and there's half of your problems solved. But yeah, each to his own.

 

Yeah, I currently use an ipad, which works pretty well as a hot spot, but I'm pretty mobile, so pulling over to the side of a road for a quick email, or over lunch, or in an appt, it's just nice to have one device to turn on, etc. Not huge, just what I'm used to.

 

According to Sierra Wireless the EM7355 does support Verizon. Look at the table on the second page.

 

I currently have the configuration I want except for the processor. The Canadian configuration currently only allows either the i5-4200U or i5-4300U. I want the i7-4600U.

Can anyone comment on the advantages (other then the processing speed) of the i7-4600U over the i5-4300U?

 

Can anyone verify this? With the X1C Gen 1, they also said it was Verizon compatible, but when I took it into Verizon, they couldn't get it to work (multiple stores)

 

Order it and try. There's no restocking fee so it's worth a shot. Maybe someone from Lenovo will give some insight:

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/bd-p/X_Series_Thinkpads

 

Hey guys! I have been following this thread for a couple of months (you all have been very helpful) and have been waiting for the customizable option to arrive, which is finally here. My question is regarding the screen choice. I 100% want Windows 7 Pro on this laptop, NOT windows 8 (I hate it). Will the 2560x1440 WQHD IPS touch screen work properly with Windows 7? I know because it is a touch screen it is meant to be used with Windows 8, but I want the better screen with Windows 7? Anyone know if this combo would present an issue? Or will I need to use the lower quality non IPS 1600x900 screen with Windows 7? Also, this may be a stupid question, but if I am using Windows 7 with the touch screen, will I be able to use the touch screen, or that only would work with Windows 8? Thanks in advance for any help!!

 

I plugged in my Sierra Wireless MiFi and leave it on 24/7 xD

 

I just tether with my phone, which I always have with me, so I don't need a 3rd device.

 

The HD5000 will go with I7-4550U. The I7-4550U/512G SSD model has already been on sale in Japan for two weeks.

 

You could use the touchscreen with Windows 7 just fine. However, you can get the WQHD screen with non-touch (and of course with Windows 7), so there's no reason to get the touch screen if you don't want it. That's what I would do, anyway.

 

As of current, the touchscreen version in the US is actually cheaper than the non-touch WQHD. My question is: which screen will be of higher quality? I know that there is presumably a layer over the touchscreen which may add glare, but does it increase or decrease the glittery screen door effect? Or might that layer provide a more crisp picture? Also, the touchscreen is rated at less NITS than the nontouch if I recall, so it is less bright? Any help or comparison would be appreciated.

 

I would go matte non touch. Glare is a PITA, in my opinion. Typically the matte layer reduces brightness slightly, but I've never had a laptop and needed max brightness on the screen.


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There should be a thread "Useless chats with Lenovo reps." You will all find this transcript humorous. I came to buy a computer and he converses with me like I have an MBA or something (I don't have an MBA). Or maybe he called my bluff in angling for a discount.

^Mohd.mubeen :
Hello, may I know your name for records?
You :
Muhammad
^Mohd.mubeen :
How are you today?
You :
Good
^Mohd.mubeen :
Glad to hear that.
^Mohd.mubeen :
How can I help you today?
You :
Why is the nontouch X1 carbon more expensive than an equivalent configured touchscreen version?
^Mohd.mubeen :
The price of the non touch version is $1,299.00 before tax for the basic configuration and the price of the touch version is $1,399.00 before tax.
You :
But why, shouldn't the nontouch be less expensive with WQHD? It costs $50 more once it is customized.
^Mohd.mubeen :
I am not getting you what you are referring to?
You :
Have you tried to configure a customized X1 Carbon Gen 2?
You :
If you configure a nontouch WQHD, the price comes out $50 more than an equivalent touch WQHD.
^Mohd.mubeen :
The prices will depend on the market risk.
^Mohd.mubeen :
Since we have not received any response from you, we will now be closing this chat session. Please visit Laptops, Notebooks & Netbooks - Laptops For Those Who Do | Lenovo | US for any queries or to get-in-touch with us.

 

For some reason I did not even see the option for non-touch WQHD but I see it now. Thanks!!

 

I have the touchscreen. It's plenty bright, non-glare, and has very good viewing angles. I think they start with a glossy IPS panel, then add a film which cuts the glare. I think this film is also present on the non-touch, but I am not certain of this.

 

My shipping date is saying March 6th. How realistic is this? Does Lenovo usually beat these targets and ship items out sooner?

 

I hate to say it, but just jumped ship for the Sony Vaio Pro 13. Good luck guys! I was waiting for this X1C for almost a year (after hating the X1C and X1CT).....couldn't wait any longer...

 

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 2) 20A7002WUS 14" WQHD Core i7-4600U / 8GB DDR3 / 256GB SSD Business Ultrabook. Lenovo 20A7002WUS

excalibur pc has the full spec'd non touch version for 1999.

 

My shipping date got bumped from 3/7 to 2/21; we'll see if that date holds or changes.

 

Some of the 20A70037US hit Ingram (distributor) this week. I have one of these on the way to evaluate as a possible replacement to my Samsung Ativ Book 9+. I love the Samsung but the QHD resolution is a problem with some apps. I am hoping the X1 with slightly lower resolution and larger screen will work better with some apps that don't handle DPI settings that well.

 

I have been checking for when Ingram will have the 512GB available. I hope soon!!

 

detailed German review:
Test Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Touch 20A8-003UGE Ultrabook - Notebookcheck.com Tests

Strangely the benchmark results are much lower than those measured by Eternal.

 

I have the feeling that the constructors have failed all the haswell line... The X1 not being the worst hopefully. On the photos, the screen looked washed despite the high contrast.

The FN keys should at least have been done with an oled display to be customizable...

 

If you ordered your X1C and they told you 5-7 days, and it got bumped to the beginning of March, call and complain. I ended up getting an additional 7% off, on top of the 18% discount I got when I placed the order.

 

I guess many of our orders jumped from March to Feb 21. and you are luck to get this discount.

 

The German test claims the Wifi is pretty bad.
When outside after 15m their connection to the Router dropped. Whereas similar devices had a connection up to 45m.

To the people who already recieved their model. Can you confirm this? How stable and which distance is your module?

 

Also important: the Notebookcheck review mentions that significant CPU throttling is taking place, making a high end CPU configuration pretty useless. It's 26% slower than a Lifebook U904 with the same i7-4600u CPU as tested by Notebookcheck. That's pretty bad. Perhaps this is just a bit too much sacrifice for thinness?

 

Another review: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2014, A Fantastic Revision - HotHardware (written review and video)

 

Well, I stopped reading after they listed a 4in1 card reader for the 2014 edition. But thanks anyway ;-)

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Well, this is a small mistake in the specs. They even say in the video that there is no card-reader. Not a reason I would consider to not-read a review.

 

I got my X1 Carbon 20A70037US yesterday and got it fully setup. So far the only issue with the unit is the screen. It's not great (this has the touch WQHD) and definitely has the "screen door" effect. The screen on my Samsung Ativ Book 9+ is much better. Of course that is a higher resolution screen but the Samsung colors are much more accurate/vibrant and it's noticeably brighter. The downside with the Samsung is that you need to set DPI to 200% due to the resolution and that does not play well with some apps. With the X1 I am able to use it with DPI set to 150%.

 

What is the screen door effect?

 

What's the lowest brightness setting like on the QHD edition?

I realize this is a strange question but as a migraine sufferer I would really appreciate an answer. Since it's rather subjective a good test it to take it in a dark room, put it on the lowest brightness and simply report back how difficult it is to read text.

 

So does this have a true matte screen?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=x1+...la:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

 

I would call it matte.

 

The touch screen on tp Yoga has a protective film which to some people looks to have the screen door effect. It is probably the same on 2nd gen X1 C.

 

Anyone has any idea why the 14.0" QHD (2560x1440) non-touch IPS screen cost $50 more than the 14.0" QHD (2560x1440) Multi-touch IPS screen?

 

LIkely manufacturing costs and quantities. Assuming that the vast majority of X1 Carbon units are sold with touchscreens rather than nontouch screens, it probably costs Lenovo MORE for the nontouch screens based on the numbers produced.

In short: Economies of scale.

 

Apart from the function keyboard, this laptop is looking pretty good to me.

Is this the only current Lenovo laptop with at least HD5000 GPU?

S

 

My QHD non touch / i7 / 256gb shipped out. Should be here tomorrow.

Still no word on the HD5000 graphics card availability? Strange they released everything else but that.

 

Notebookcheck's very thorough review of the unit...before u look at the overall good score..read the remarkably poor review in most major categories - yet they give it an 87 out of 100. But do read it because the review reads like the unit should score about 70!! Poor performing SSD, heat is an issue which causes throttling, mediocre battery at best...this is according to them not me. Its $2000 in Canada with an i5-4300U...we dont even have the option for an i7 which (with a 256 GB SSD) will surely run near $2500! for a dual core machine with this kind of mediocre review?

Review Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Touch 20A8-003UGE Ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

Really? I don´t find these points in the review - they must be coming from you.

The SSD gets good marks from them:

The battery life seems perfectly adequate for a machine with a 45 Wh battery - in the most significant battery runtime test, the WiFi test, the battery life is better than the most competitors.

 

Would love for you to comment on the nontouch screen (screen door, brightness), noise level (fan), and heat production.

 

You sound like a salesman - rather than cherry picking one point..read the review....does it not say that competitors offer 19-30% more battery time? does it not say that throttling occurs under load? does it not say that performance benchmark tests are mediocre? I could go on...but u get the point. Rather than pump up the system - let everyone read the review and decide for themselves what they like or dont like and whether or not the system is worth the price being asked for vs the competition. I will say it again, the review sounds like the system is medicore at best. At the end of the day I look at performance/price ratio and in Canada where the i5-4300U can run for $2300 - I think there are better alternatives.

 

Well, I read the review 4 days ago when it was originally puplished in German...but maybe you should read it again...

No. It does say that the X1 Carbon has 19 - 30 % less battery life in the Idle test - which is not a real-world test.

If you would have looked on the text and the charts, which you obviously not did, you could have seen this: The X1 Carbon runs 12 - 23 % longer in the WLAN test than most of the competiting machines. The WLAN test includes light web browsing, 150 nits of display-brightness and an active WLAN modem. The Idle test includes the lowest brightness, no activity at all and a disabled WLAN modem. Is this the way you would use you Notebook?

Yes. But the question is, how important are these benchmarks in reality? I guess no one would ever uses Prime95 (CPU) and Furmark (GPU) in their normal workflow at the same time...and as the reviews says:
"But while the benchmark results appear mediocre, the actual user experience is just great, with boot times (up to entering one's password) of just 6 seconds, near-instantaneous wake-up times from standby, fast installations and quick app starts. But then again, this is exactly what we expect from a device with a price point of around 2000 euros."
So, as I said, maybe you should read it again.

I am not trying to defend Lenovo on this: It is true that they could have done a better job with that, as always, you have the tradeoff of heat and fan noise. But they still can fix the throtteling with BIOS updates etc., I would not consider something like this as a deal braker if the machine fits me well otherwise. For others, this may be a bigger issue.

The X1 Carbon with i5-4200U in the review from hothardware performed pretty normally: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2014, A Fantastic Revision - HotHardware Might be an issue with the i7 models.

The "performance/price" ratio? Well, if you take this into your consideration, every single consumer gaming notebook has better performance for a lower price. But thats really missing the point. Business notebooks in general, whether from HP, Lenovo ir Dell is not important, should not be judged by the performance/price rating.

An example: The Fujitsu Lifebook U904 performed much better in some performance tests in the Notebookcheck review. But does that make it a better system? I don´t think so: Review Fujitsu LifeBook U904 Ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

In addition to ahmadm369 questions - I am also interested in the battery life compared to touch. I have the same config being built now albeit with i5. Curious to see if the battery life is significantly longer than touch.

 

I have the i5/256gb/non touch QWHD arriving tomorrow, ill give you details

 

When did you order? I placed my order 2 weeks ago for the pre-configured Touch model and the status is still "Order Received". I chatted with a rep and they are giving me back 5% after it ships.
In the meantime I have a 512gb M.2 doing a bad job as a paperweight. But after it arrives I've have a spare M.2 for sale...