X1 Carbon Gen 2 (Haswell)

Wow, how do you people find this stuff??

 

The Virtual Row will not be programmable. The keys actually dynamically change depending on what application your in. Say you are in IE then you will get a Virtual Row that caters to certain functions that you might need while viewing a web page. Change to skype and now the virtual row will have VOIP keys in the virtual row. However you will be able to cycle through all these rows at any given time through the use of the FN key which is used to cycle through the virtual rows.

In all honesty I have yet to bothered by the AG Film that was choosen. However you will find that at times certain FONT or Items may appear blurry but that is by no means a result of the AG Film but rather Microsoft did a poor job in handling high resolution IPS displays. Hence causing this slight distorted look.

It will be called X1 Carbon once again. However as we all know it will be the second generation but the name will not change on the actual machine.

It will indeed actually.

 

Will the new model offer an FHD display? WQHD is too small for my aging eyes and scaling doesn't look as crisp as native resolution. Sorry if this has already been answered.

 

Perfect. As long as it's a software issue with Windows and not the hardware itself. I'm really looking forward to this model. I just really hope it's not plagued with any quality issues I experienced with the X1 Carbon touch and non touch I had to return. :/

 

Well, that would mean they're hardcoded for a specific set of programms, which hopefully is not the case. I'm also interested in this, because the first thing I would do is installing linux on it, so hopefully there actually is a way to change these keys. Everything else would just be ludicrous. I really can't wait to see a video of this feature.

 

According to the specs sheet that leaked a while back, Full HD will be an option.

 

The proprietary SSD was the main reason I excluded the original X1 from consideration. Touch screen, M.2, i5 or i7 and I'm sold!

 

with the screen turned off or with mostly black content on the screen, can you clearly see your reflection and the things around you?

 

That is a bit concerning. What if you use an open source browser based on FireFox/Chrome that Lenovo hasn't heard of? or a VOIP app they haven't heard of? Would you be missing keys to refresh the page? There has to be at least some profiles maybe?

Speaking of concerns, any comments on the touchpad? I am temporarily using a Yoga 2 Pro and the touchpad is driving me insane. At issue is I sometimes press right click instead of left or left click instead of right and due to how these touchpads work when I press sometimes my finger slips due to the tilt and I missclick . So any comments on the touchpad would be appreciated as I spend hours on it a day.

 

The HD is going to be M.2 however there is no removable RAM. It is all onboard memory

Lenovo does have a very extensive list of supported applications for their Virtual Row. However missing an application is always a possibility. As far as the Clickpad goes. It is a 5 Button Clickpad but with up to date SW and FW it seems to be pretty reliable. No complaints yet.

With the screen turned on I dont have a heavy reflection of myself and the things around me. Of course with the screen off I could see a reflection but it is not very apparent due to the AG film that gives it more of a Matte look to the screen.

 

Any details on the FHD touch display?

 

Any chance of this being available by mid January? Seems unlikely

 

Like I stated before I do not see a plan for a HD+ (FHD) display for the Touch model. We will have to wait and see what is available for the public once this releases. Currently the only specs I was informed of are that of the WQHD screen for the touch model.

Should be if all goes well and there are no delays. :thumbsup:

 

No delays?? Not really the X1 Carbon forte.

 

how about for non-touch.. is there going to be an option for a truly matte screen that doesn't have a glass top layer? most business users prefer this option.

 

Will this have Iris Graphics?

 

The originally-leaked specs said FHD and QHD- not HD+??

(Im interested in the non-touch specs)

 

Looks like New X1 Carbon (2nd gen) gots some flesh and blood... Just googled it with https://www.google.com/search?q=%22thinkpad+new+x1+carbon%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t

 

Very nice. If the release is Jan 15, that makes sense with it being shortly after the CES 2014 unveiling.

I'm hoping that date is accurate for the US market as well. Pricing is hard to gauge with it being from NZ, but I think it should be similar to when the 1st gen came out.

It says the RAM is not upgradeable though, which is a bit disappointing. But B00STED confirmed this and at least said the SSD should be upgradeable, which is good.

 

what?? only with i7 4600U HD4400?? Even HP Folio 1040 comes with i7 4650U HD5000...I'll stay away

 

why are they only using 1333MHz RAM, instead of 1600? and only HD4400? both of those areas are extremely disappointing if true.

 

Yep, pretty lame configuration on a number of fronts; that just doesn't cut the mustard, with more powerful laptops in this class already being sold. Too bad, I was just starting to get interested in those Lenovos...

 

Apologies for my ignorance, but what exactly does that mean, in somewhat-layman's terms? Thank you in advance.

 

The first one refers to the "speed" of the RAM , the second one refers to the graphic chip. Basically they're newer and therefore "better and faster" components on the market than what they're using in the new X1 Carbon.

But let's see what is revealed on the 5th of January before jumping to conclusions.

 

These component seems fine for a machine that is mainly intended to be thin and light while still offering adequate processing power: The availability of a matte screen, for example, ranks much higher at least to me than the difference between two pretty slow Intel graphics units that won't be noticeable in day-to-day use and a slight difference in RAM clock speed.

 

Guess it's either something with the relationship between Lenovo and Intel preventing the supply of iris chip, or it's something related to heat design - macbook pro runs really hot. So is X1C though.
Or it can just be "nobody in mainstream really wants a high end graphical performance with the thin and light type".

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Every system has trade-offs, and you can always point to faster/cheaper/whatever features and complain they are not there, which is an endless exercise and is nothing but noise. Though I don't want to start making excuses if the specs are not what the target market needs.

 

This. I'm still stoked. My Samsung Series 9 13.3" (Ivy Bridges) has been excellent in performance. I'm more concerned with the display that will be in the X1C as well as the 8GB RAM.

I might shell out for the cheaper 180GB SSD model if I can upgrade to a 512GB SSD in the future myself.

 

I see. Thank you very much.

 

Yup SSD is upgradeable.but Im happy the specs are out since everyone was skeptical about the RAM being upgradeable after I stated it wouldnt be.

 

Specs for video is wrong. It is going to be HD Graphics 5000 not 4400

 

Ok, so I still need to figure out:
- Display options (hopefully matte with a higher resolution than 1600x900)
- Linux compatibility ( It seems there are some major problems with the T540p
Lenovo Thinkpad T540p bricked booting linux : linux
- I'm still not sure about the new clickpad in comparison to the old one. I hope they didn't render the trackpoint useless. I've never used the touchpad on a thinkpad and I don't intend to start using it now. Some users say the "trackpoint buttons" on top of the new clickpad are fine, others are complaining about it.

 

I'm with you, the trackpoint is the reason I am only currently considering a Lenovo; other laptops (including my current Dell Latitude 6350) just can't seem to get it right. By the way, thank you Boosted for all your info.

 

+1 (and ten characters)

 

Any information on what the "Ethernet extension cable" is? I was set on getting a USB 3 adapter, do Lenovo have a better solution in stock for the X3? Wired network is pretty important to me, and while a USB bridge would probably suffice, a faster "native" adapter seems like a feature I'd appreciate very much.

That sounds excellent!

 

Can anyone please confirm that the max ram is 8GB and not 12GB?

Also does BOOSTER or anyone know whether the new dynamic function row keys are in anyway compatible with linux (I still don't understand the implementation).

 

Well, like I said before the new FN keys are most likely realised via software, so we have to see if someone steps in and provides us with software for it. Basically the same as the fingerprint reader. I'm pretty sure they won't work out of the box. Does anyone know if there are other thinkpad models with the dynamic FN keys? That would increase the chances that someone provides us with software for it.

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Awesome. This machine sounds perfect. I hope we get an actual glimpse in the next few days. Thanks for the info.

 

New years eve, feh. Can we get to NDA expiration eve already?

 

Just 5 days to go! :thumbsup: CES 2014 will be nice (when it comes to ThinkPads, we will likely see the new X1 Carbon and the new ThinkPad 8, a 8" version of the TPT3).

 

Given the fact that I've listed configs based on i5-4300U and i7-4600U processors, I doubt it is possible to fit HD5000 into their silicon -- they sports HD4400, check the official description. On the other hand, I would be more than happy to see i5-4250U and i7-4650U in the list of options. Let's see official data sheet in a week or two.

 

Holy , this is not looking good. Apparently there are so many problems with the new tx40 thinkpads with Haswell that someone created a github page for all the issues; and it's not really a short one.

From permanently bricking the device when trying to install Linux (motherboard replacement required) to unusable audio quality under Linux and some other nasty stuff under Windows. But take a look for yourself

https://github.com/leoluk/thinkpad-stuff/wiki/Haswell-ThinkPad-problems

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Well, Windows User here, so I can´t have any of the Linux problems, and I don´t have a dock, but I have none of these issues listed there. Only wireless drops out sometimes at home,, but thats because our router is really old and not very good anymore.

 

This doesn't seem like that unusual a list of problems a multitude people are experiencing with a variety of new models: Just follow any new hardware thread on any tech forums, they always make it seem like everything is broken.

 

This is over-generalizing the problems in some of the defective units to all thinkpads.

 

Lot's of great info here, it took awhile to catch up. Thanks all for pooling together a good discussion, especially those with direct sources!

B00STED can you confirm the ram speed to be 1333 MHz? this bothers me more than any potential lack of HD5000, which I think is overkill for the purposes of a machine in this class. It's not a game changer for me but probably the biggest letdown thus far.

And some more questions if you don't mind...
- Is 802.11ac standard now?
- What is the hinge design like?
- Can the SSD be serviced without voiding warranty?
- Is the SSD still a SanDisk/Marvell part? it would be spectacular if there was a Sandisk Extreme II under the hood.
- Have you had a chance to test battery life in a real-world scenario?
- Do you find the fan turning on often? (and if possible, have you seen coretemp readings on it?)
- Does enabling SpeedStep cause the system to stutter? (I've seen this in the original X1C)
- Is there flexing or considerable bounceback of the screen when using touch on it?

Ah, sorry for the long list...I am too curious
Thanks for anything else you can tell us!

 

Otherwise known as Gimmick-chasers "oooo I want the iphone 15....... although not sure why".........

 

Bricking a laptop when trying to install Linux is a pretty big deal. One would expect maybe a crash then a power cycle, but we're talking about needing a motherboard replacement just for booting off a Linux CD. That's not a typical defect.

 

This is the only reason why I said its HD5000. For the non believers

 

woohoo! bravo! can't wait for CES xD