X120e with E-450 / ETA?

Anyone know of an ETA when the X120e may ship with the E-450? HP already has it in their DM1z, hoping it comes to the X120e soon?

 

I don't want to falsely accuse them, but one thing I've noticed about Lenovo lately is they don't want any notebooks to supplant their main bread and butter, the T and W series thinkpads. That's why for example we will never see an X120 with a ULV core i processor in the states. If they made other models with too good of specs, less people would be willing to purchase the more expensive T and W models. So I wouldn't be surprised if Lenovo takes their sweet time to introduce the E450 processor in the X120.
And now that I think about it, I think that's why the thinkpad edge E525 only comes with an A4 apu, and probably will for some time to come.

 

Well the E-450 is the replacement for the E-350 as in E-350 is no longer produced so they'll have to offer it before too long. It's only a marginal improvement though, but good to have the latest I guess.

In any case I found an Asus Eee 1215B with E-350 for $300, same specs. So Lenovo can keep their $450 machine that's only worth $300 anyhow IMHO.

 

I think Lenovo is just waiting for their stock of E-350s to run out. Its not exactly a huge upgrade anyways.

Also, the X120e has never been the cheapest Zacate based laptop. To say its worth $300 because there is an E-350 netbook at that price is very misleading.

 

No, because $300-$350 is really what this caliber notebook/netbook should bear. I was reluctant to buy the HP DM1z even at a little over $400.

 

Well the extra money you pay for also gets you a better customer support and wide range of warranty options. Just like you can't always compare prices between fast food restaurants and full service restaurants for the same meal offering.

 

I don't need a lecture on company support, laptop build quality etc. I've owned and used LOTS of laptops personally and professionally.

With a $300 laptop, warranty is least of my concerns. If it doesn't work in first 21 or 30 days or whatever the return period is, it's going back regardless. Otherwise my personal experience has been very very rarely do problems crop up that aren't noticed in the first month of using the product, especially if you burn it in and push it hard.

I have nothing against Thinkpad and would prefer to have owned the X120e, the matte screen was a big bonus, but not $150 more of a bonus.

If I were spending decent money, i.e. $800+ on a laptop, I'd pay an extra 10-15% for a laptop with similar specs from another company if I knew the build quality was going to be solid and get good customer support. But 50% more, no thanks.

 

So..... I don't understand then. First you seem interested in an x120e with an E-450, now you're saying you wont pay the $150 above what other similiar models (like the HP DM1) go for? So you're not interested in the x120e then?

 

I *was* interested in it, until I found a same spec machine for $300 a little later. Unless the Asus was total garbage there is nothing that the Thinkpad could offer that can convince me to spend that extra $150+. E-450 or otherwise. That's all. I don't think that's hard to fathom.

The DM1z goes for about $410-415 with tax, so it wasn't much more for a Thinkpad with matte screen, which was my initial thought.

In any case, my Asus 1215B arrived today and better than I expected actually. Screen is very bright, good build quality with a solid keyboard. Only issue is to change the HDD you have to disassemble the laptop. Otherwise it's running great. $307 shipped is a good deal.

 

I get ya. Maybe I'll check out the 1215B as well and see how it is.

 

It will be interesting to see what lenovo does with the x120 or its successor. Going intel/x121 on it would be bad, so in time perhaps they would really put an updated AMD APU in it. After all, contrary to the x100, the x120 doesn't have real weaknesses any more. Sure, the CPU is a bit wimpy, but that's more of an academic argument.

IMHO, the keyboard, the matte screen and trackpoint+3buttons are so totally worth an extra $150.

 

I guess it depends on your needs. I wanted something as cheap as possible as an "extra" laptop. My kids have commandeered my other netbook, so just wanted something to replace it, at least as powerful. My other netbook cost $250, and really didn't want to spend much more. I also bought a Samsung 5" Android "tablet" (can you call something with 5" screen a tablet? lol) which will probably get a lot more use.

In any case if the 12" notebook was going to be my primary machine I would have no doubt sprung for the Thinkpad, given that it cost about $400.

 

I just wanted to point out that the base model x120e is now widely available for $299 + shipping. Check Amazon and Google.

 

Nice. Now if only the E-350 model would cost that much they'd sell like hotcakes! Single core CPU to me is a bit slow.

 

Agreed. I was looking for a similar deal on the E350 model but no dice so far. $436 is the lowest I could find and Lenovo has them direct at $450.

It seems like they're dumping the E240s but doing just fine with the E350s.

 

no news yet for x120e with e450 ?

 

They have been cropping up on some German sites, i live in the UK and cant seem to get hold of one yet ! its the X121e NWS5XUK

 

A little redundant aye? Those looking towards Thinkpads are typically willing to fork over a little more cash specifically for the type features not.sure listed, such as myself. (who was originally shooting for a 1215)

Thanks for the clarification, though upon a search it looks like it'll be the x130e for us yanks: Laptops | Professional Grade PCs ThinkPad X Series | Mobile PC | Learn | Lenovo | (US) Hopefully they won't be too delayed this time, or consistently sold out, not to mention still available in an affordable package. (the first two being big reasons I don't yet have anything in this size range) A year's gone by & now I'm contemplating waiting a little longer for the next edition - go figure. Get'r done already Lenovo!!

 

Any real benefits going from x120e to x130e other than durability and the e-450(assuming NA will not get the icore option)?

The x130e looks a bit like a child's toy imo.

 

X130e's release probably will kill any likely updates to the X120e.

X130e is designed for school children.

 

While I realize the 130 doesn't totally follow the plain-jane Thinkpad motif, (my first was one of the original monochrome jobs), for some reason I'm a little surprised how harsh people are being on it just the same. After a little more consideration I've decided I'd prefer the 120's size & weight too, (mostly due to being disabled, which causes half a pound to be a bigger hinderence to me than most), but don't think a little extra durability is a bad thing for something in this segment either. Whichever I wind up snagging, it'll no doubt get manhandled from time to time.. especially given how annoying airports are to deal with these days, heh.

 

That X130e looks like a great laptop for my ten year old niece. Although my sister just bought my 16 y.o. niece a Fusion 15" laptop for $400 for xmas, so hard to swallow E-450 over an A6-3400m. But the ruggedness of it is appealing.