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    X200 SSD Boot Time in Win 7 64 bit

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by EspiOne, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. EspiOne

    EspiOne Notebook Consultant

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    I recently updated my HD to a A-DATA S596 ( Newegg.com - Suggested Products. I also purchased a OEM copy of Win 7 64 bit. After I loaded the OS and started it a few time, I wanted to see the actual boot time from button start up to desktop, I am getting 42 sec, 50 sec and fastest 36 sec. :mad:

    I am have followed a guide to disable, index, write cach, frefetch, superfetch, hibernate, ....etc. :confused:

    I was honestly expecting somewhere around 15 to 20 sec boot time, then am I expecting too much. :eek: :confused:

    My Specs:

    X200
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
    2.4Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo (P8600)
    8GB PC3 8500
    A-DATA 64GB SSD

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    TheBugMan Notebook Consultant

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    zephir Notebook Deity

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    I'm getting 15 sec from boot to desktop on my old X200, no idea what your problem is. Try to reduce number of startup services?
     
  4. unreal25

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    Same. Mine is around 20-25ish seconds from the time I press power-on button.

    I don't think startup services will amount to that much. Even if you load your startup folder, SSD just chews through tons of programs in a matter of seconds. Also I got almost no change in the startup time with all the tweaks.

    Check that the AHCI is chosen in BIOS. I didn't disable write caching.
     
  5. PatchySan

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    36 seconds does seem a bit slow for an SSD, my R61e with a standard Seagate 7200RPM drive boots up in 31 seconds, my T61 with SSD boots in 17. As some suggested check if the AHCI mode is on in the BIOS, it may also be worth installing the Intel Rapid Storage Technology Drivers for your SSD drive if you haven't done so, though normally its best to load these drivers first before installing the Operating System so you don't have to install the additional software on top.

    It maybe useful to see how the SSD is performing using benchmark utilties such as CrystalDiskMark so you can check if the SSD is performing within ranges.
     
  6. strangesweet

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    Mine also boots around 15 seconds

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
    2.4Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo (P8600)
    Samsung 4GB RAM
    Samsung 64 GB SSD
     
  7. EspiOne

    EspiOne Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I reinstalled Win 7 with AHCI and I seem to get the same issue. When I changed the bios to AHCI on the first install, it kept crashing, so I just reinstalled it, but the time is the same, between 30 to 40 seconds. I had not even put in the Lenovo drivers also, which might slow it down more. I did notice a snappiness (??) in opening programs. But I am truely @ a lost as to the boot speed. Is there a definite protocal for setting on this notebook for SSD?? I will let the forum know any results.
     
  8. oct

    oct Notebook Evangelist

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    There is no such switch that would turn SSD on or off on a laptop... it's a SATA drive.

    Have you tried to run CrystalDiskMark benchmarks as Hearst555 suggested? If yes, what results have you got?
     
  9. EspiOne

    EspiOne Notebook Consultant

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    Is there a definite protocal for setting on this notebook for SSD??

    I am sorry, I was not asking if you can turn "on" or "off" the SSD. I was asking if there was a setting configuration "on" the X200 that will opitmize the use of a SSD?

    I decided to get a SSD, since I read about the read speed and boot time was so fast, but now that I have one, the boot does not impress me very much.

    My wd velociraptor on my gamer system, seems to be faster then this SSD.
     
  10. turqoisegirl08

    turqoisegirl08 Notebook Evangelist

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    I was going to ask if you bought a new drive? Those Crystal Mark figures are what everyone is waiting for. One of the Crystal Mark features gives your drive a health rating (in percentage and "good," "caution," etc.)

    I'm also wondering if your installation is aligned properly or if you have that turbo boost feature on your X200? I am also sure I've read that turbo boost on some Lenovos caused slow boots on W7 installations.
     
  11. EspiOne

    EspiOne Notebook Consultant

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    Just downloaded the program.

    5 @ 1000MB
    Read/Write
    Seq 231.4/109.2
    512k 206.3/81.40
    4k 17.56/30.50
    4k (QD32) 50.51/37.02


    I really don't know what these number mean, maybe it can be explained.
    This is a new drive.
    I don't think it has turbo boost, since it is Core 2, not an i7 CPU.
     
  12. turqoisegirl08

    turqoisegirl08 Notebook Evangelist

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    Turbo memory is this.

    This post is about a problem with a booting delay with turbo memory installed. Turbo Memory and SSD.

    Not sure if this will help so I'm just throwing it out there just in case. Good luck!
     
  13. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    The CrystalDiskMark figures generally look OK to me, does your SSD have an updated firmware by any chance? Also it's a longshot but you can try tweaking the number of processors required by Windows to speed up the boot time.

    Go to the Start Orb and type in 'MSConfig'. Go to the 'Boot' tab, Advanced Options, under Number of Processors choose the highest number available and click OK. Check the "Make all boot settings permanant" box and then click OK.
     
  14. godbreath

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    Hmm.. it looks like a lot of people are getting faster boot times than I am.

    I timed my boot time and it is as follows:
    4 seconds to get to the thinkpad logo
    10 seconds to get to windows 7 logo
    36 seconds to get to desktop

    I have an agility 2 120gb, and here is my crystal disk mark benchmark
    Sequential Read : 195.904 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 135.457 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 184.235 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 132.577 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 12.891 MB/s [ 3147.1 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 30.512 MB/s [ 7449.3 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 114.751 MB/s [ 28015.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 63.289 MB/s [ 15451.3 IOPS]
     
  15. Flyersfan139

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    I just timed mine and it took 22 seconds to get to the desktop from the time I pushed the power button.

    I have an Intel 120gb X25M but I have an X201
     
  16. mooseracing

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    I'm in the same boat. My x200 with an intel X18 is about 30-40 Seconds to logon screen, down from about 1.5 mins.

    All of our T4xx's are the same way, and we are running a mix of Kingstons, Intel, and Samsung SSD's. Ours might be related to being on a domain though.
     
  17. EspiOne

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    Well.....I least, now I know that I am not the only one. I am somewhat disappionted at the results that I am getting, I am considering installing this in my X60 Tablet, maybe I would get better results on my X60 Tablet. I purchased a 640GB drive for my X60 Tablet, I can just swap them out.

    Thanks for all the input on this issue.
     
  18. erik

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    for those with 15~20 second boot times, are you running lenovo enhanced experience factory images?   clean installations of windows will probably be slower at around 30 seconds on average.   with a spinning platter hard drive, boot times will be around 60 seconds or more.

    my X200T with a clean/optimized install of 2008 R2 boots in about 30 seconds with a 160Gb intel G2 SSD.   this is normal.
     
  19. EspiOne

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    Well, after going back and forth with ADATA on thier firmware update program, I finally got my firmware updated and I am down to 25 second boot up, so with out counting the bios, maybe less then 20 seconds.

    I kept having the same issue each time I ran the firmware update program, it would not find my flash drive, I changed drive size, change drive and nothing. Then after the upteened time, it occurred to me to "ran as administrator" (not stated in the instructions) and the program recognized my flash and install the firmware. Only problem, ofcourse the wipe of the drive, so I had to do a clean install again. That was okay, I had not activated Win 7 yet. So the firmware update seem to fix the boot up speed issue.
     
  20. vinuneuro

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    These boot times sound a bit off. With a pretty full wd3200bekt I have a boot time of 27sec. When the installation was newer it was below 20sec. Nothing special optimized, all usual stuff starts up like power manager, lenovo drivers, catalyst, etc.

    I recently read somewhere that lenovo enhanced experience boots from an ssd under 10sec. Where do you get these images, win 7 must be purchased from lenovo?

    You guys might want to disable devices you don't use in the bios. It helps boot a little faster as well as save power when on battery.
     
  21. realwarder

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    I would really really suggest that you just let Windows 7 do what it does best, which is to optimize startup time itself.

    If you have an SSD, Windows will disable things itself if it believes they are best disabled... Support and Q&A for Solid-State Drives - Engineering Windows 7

    Things you can do are to stop other programs loading on startup, other than that I'd undo any 'tweaks' you made.

    In the words of Microsoft, 'we’ve found the vast majority of “registry tweak” recommendations to be bogus.'
     
  22. stevenp88

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    Mine is X61
    I have this situation before in OCZ, I'm not sure this can help u or not.
    Before install Window, Unallocated the SSD first in other computer, (not format), make sure u cannot c the ssd in [My computer], only can c it in [disk management], after that suck it back into your X200 & install window.
     
  23. altecX

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    WHy did you disable all of that? Windows 7 does what it needs to for SSD's. It's possible some of that slowed your boot down.
     
  24. unreal25

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    I disabled all what you wrote, except Write Caching.