X220 IPS = yellow tint?

Received my X220 last week w/ IPS screen upgrade. Almost everything is superb about the X220 but I was questioning whether or not the IPS screen is known to have a yellow tint or not.

I've adjusted my color profiles via the Intel display, but it does lead to potential color shift problems with other colors. If anyone could provide their RGB values too, that would be helpful for me to at least try them out on my unit.

Knowing whether or not the X220 is supposed to have a yellow-tinted IPS display will make me sleep better at night.

Thanks in advance.

 

Not sure which monitor you are comparing the X220 IPS to. My X220 IPS is not warmer than my Dell U2410, and it's a lot cooler than Dell U3011 REV.A07.

 

My X220's IPS screen does seem slightly warm. When I calibrated it using Spyder4 it is definitely cooler and the whites are whiter, instead of almost yellowish.

 

Doesn't the IMac use to have this problem when it first laumched (there was an outrage on the blog-sphere) , it seem might be a bad batch. Since I am doesn't have experience with either product I am not sure if it is the case.

Check out the following link. Blue Tint vs Yellow Tint Iphone 4 Screen - Short Review/Comparison (Shocker Alert) - MacRumors Forums
Not sure if this range true for the X220 as it did for the IPhone

 

Iron Eagle - Would you mind sharing your ICC monitor file?

 

I too would be interested in this as I don't have something to calibrate with.

 

if you're running windows 7 then this might help: http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...st-your-thinkpad-display-fix-windows-7-a.html

sharing ICC profiles isn't ideal since every display will have different color cast, output, backlight color, etc.   perceptual color cast is easy to fix and you don't need someone's random ICC or a hardware colorimeter.

 

I am aware sharing an ICC profile would not be ideal due to manufacturing tolerances, but I would still be very much interested in trying out a calibrated profile.

 

Just wanted to reply that the yellow tint has significantly been reduced after performing a clean install of Windows 7 and not installing the Lenovo monitor profiles. I was holding off until receiving my Hitachi Z5K500 drive, but being that it has been on backorder for a few weeks, I just went ahead with wiping the stock drive.

 

Just took delivery Lenovo x220 IPS earlier this month. Screen a little on the warm side.

 

I apologize versello, it completely slipped my mind to post the .icm profile. Anyways, here is my profile calibrated using the new Spyder4. It is more neutral than the default one, which is more on the warm side.

Please note that this is a quick calibration, i.e. I did not change any of the settings in Spyder4 and just left them as the default. I have yet to find some time to play with the advanced settings.

Let me know how this works out for you guys!

 

Did you get a reading of the screen before calibration? What did it say the native temperature was? The X220 IPS screen is much warmer than Thinkpad TN screens only because they are extremely blue biased. It's still either cool or neutral imo.

 

I'm looking at a tn x220 right now beside a lenovo g460 and hp dv6000, the tn panel is on the warm side as well. The hp dv6000 using lpl tn panel has a good white but the brightness is low as it's an old cfl screen, the g460's is nice and crisp but definitely on the blue side, the tn x220 is 20% on the warm side.

 

You guys are right. I went into the Windows screen calibration utility and one look at the grayscale with the Lenovo profile makes it obvious it's two warm. Even the standard srgb profile is slightly too red biased. Thanks Iron Eagle, yours is much more neutral than anything else.

How do you rate your X220's IPS screen compared to the AFFS in your X200?

 

You, sir, are my hero. Thanks.

 

I never calibrated the AFFS in my X200 but I would say the color reproduction on it was very good. The max brightness, however, is lower than that of the X220. I usually use my X220 at max brightness.

Sounds like you got it working according to your taste. I'm glad to hear.

 

Yup, whites look more white rather than biege. Greys (ie - the greys all over notebookreview.com) look grey and not light-brown. Thanks again.

My tip for any others using this or any other ICC profile, make sure you disable the Intel igfxtray and persistence apps from Windows 7's startup, otherwise the icc profile settings revert back to defaults every time the PC goes to sleep.

 

I'm a little freakin' out with my new x220 ips screen and I can see that there is some help for me here but I'm not able to actually do any of it since I don't know how to start, or how to go on for that matter.

When I show this chart on my new x220 ips screen the two greens are the same color as are the two reds whereas on my old x30 the colors in the pie are all different. I think this might be the crux of my color problem. I tried the windows 7 color calibration but I can't get the greens and reds to differentiate.
http://theworkingwardrobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/486465_thumbnail.jpg

I'd like to try Iron Eagle's zip file but I have no idea how, and this is an equal mystery: "My tip for any others using this or any other ICC profile, make sure you disable the Intel igfxtray and persistence apps from Windows 7's startup, otherwise the icc profile settings revert back to defaults every time the PC goes to sleep."

Anyone willing to walk me through this? Thank You!

 

1: open the "color management" control panel
2: check the box next to "use my settings for this device"
3: click the "add..." button
4: scroll down about halfway and select "sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and click "ok"
5: select "sRGB IEC61966-2.1" on the ICC profile list and click "set as default profile"
6: select any other profiles on the list and delete them
7: log off and back on, or restart your system
8: if absolutely necessary, tweak colors using the win 7 utility ( instructions)

using this process you shouldn't need anyone else's ICC profile.

 

I made my way to Color Management. There are three tabs. On the Devices tab the add is greyed out, on the All Profiles tab add doesn't bring me to choices, on the Advanced tab there isn't an add and the default profile is sent to sRGB IEC61966-2.1. Does that mean it's already the way you are suggesting? Thanks!

btw-I had already tried the win 7 utility and was not able to make the two greens or the two reds differentiate.

 

i updated the instructions.   you need to check the box next to "use my settings for this device".   i forgot this wasn't the default.

also, you need to remove the thinkpad monitor file so that your monitor displays as "generic PnP monitor - intel HD graphics family".   i suspect this is why you might still be seeing undesirable effects.

winkey+R > devmgmt.msc > expand "monitors" > remove the thinkpad monitor device

or, locate "device manager" in the control panel and follow the same process.

 

This may help you as well:

Windows Color Management Revisited & Solution | Keith Slagerman Photo & Design

 

Expanding "monitors" I see "Wide view angle & High density FlexView Display1366x768", clicking on it and then going to "Action" gives me the choice to Update, Disable, Uninstall so I suppose "remove" means uninstall? I'd like to confirm before doing that! And once this is done then I go back into the previous directions about Color Management and all will be well?

I'm going to read the Keith Slagerman link now, thanks.

 

OK!

I just did the new Color Management instructions (thank you Eric) and the greens are nicely separated now. The red and orange are still about the same but I did read (probably here) that that's just the way it is. Here's the link again if anyone else wants to have a look: http://theworkingwardrobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/486465_thumbnail.jpg

I didn't do the Device Manager instructions yet as I'd like to confirm on my previous #23 post first. Thank you!

The Keith Slagerman article seems to respond to the problem of the profile reverting to default? I haven't made a thorough enough study of it. Iron Eagle, may I ask you please what I should do with regards to this. Should I just follow the instructions (that were quite specific I should add)? Thank you!

 

I just got my X220 IPS display replaced. Before, I had the original revision (with the infamous ghosting issues), but without any tint. Now I've got the new revision (no ghosting), but a yellow tint. But the profile by Iron Eagle solves that quite nicely. Thanks!