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    X220: New Fan

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Pintu, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    Not sure if this is widely known or covered, but I thought it's worth sharing:

    My X220 with core i5 did become increasingly warmer, with top temperature of 96° reached very easily and the CPU throtteling down. I've now received a replacement fan, and temperatures are much lower - under full load 78°, idle 50°, more than 20° less than before.

    First I thought the issue was dust, but the old fan was not dusty at all. It looks like Lenovo is using a newer fan generation (probably the same ones as the X230). The old one just has metal at the top, the newer has copper:

    Old: 621428095_tp.jpg
    New: 506245886_794.jpg

    So if anyone wants to get a cooler X220, consider replacing your fan with the newer model.
     
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  2. iCrazyNoob

    iCrazyNoob Notebook Guru

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    chances are... all you need was new thermal paste replacement, the ones from factory are terrible.
    also turbo boost at full load will make the cpu reach 96C. I keep my settings on balanced along with arctic silver 5 runs nice and cool even under full load with stock cooler.
     
  3. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I wouldn't always say stock TIM is bad, HP and Dell I know use Dow Corning thermal paste, which is actually quite good. The problem is factory thermal paste sometimes is applied poorly, usually resulting in poor surface area contact.
     
  4. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    Well, the engineer didn't clean the CPU, so have a layer of old paste mixed with the new :(.

    But even so and with turbo boost the CPU now reaches 82° max (without throtteling). So a massive improvement.
     
  5. sciencefair

    sciencefair Notebook Consultant

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    I suppose this would be a good thread to ask in:
    How difficult would it be to replace the fan in an X220 myself and how much does the part typically cost? Just wondering in case things go south in the future with this laptop.
     
  6. iCrazyNoob

    iCrazyNoob Notebook Guru

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    yea lol thats what i meant it was badly applied x.x my had way too much paste on the cpu when i took it apart the first time.

    My T420 also got a quad core 45W CPU instead of the old dual core 35W so that's one reason I had to keep the turbo boost off to keep temp in check

    X220 Service Manual

    It shouldnt be very hard to take apart, follow the manual and common sense and you should be good. fans with heat sinks are probably 20-50 bucks on ebay.
     
  7. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    While it is certainly possible to do yourself, it is far beyond replacing a harddrive or keyboard. On this particular machine you have to completely disassemble it. I was so surprised by this that I took a picture...(on a T410 it's a 1 minute job...).

    2013-10-14 12.46.21.jpg
     
  8. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    I was contemplating on doing this, but never mind.
     
  9. takeabyte

    takeabyte Notebook Evangelist

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    Same here..too much work! I have also noticed my X220 getting hotter than usual. I might not have a choice.
     
  10. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    On X series machines - starting with X60 from what I recall - the heatsink replacement is a PITA. Having said that. if you take your time and perform it with an open HMM, it's really not that bad.

    My $0.02 only...
     
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  11. JohnsonDelBrat

    JohnsonDelBrat Notebook Evangelist

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    Does the new fan whine like the old ones at full RPMs?
     
  12. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    What does "PITA" and "HMM" mean?
     
  13. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    PITA = Pain in the A_ _ (just google it), and HMM = Hardware Maintenance Manual.
     
  14. silencer51

    silencer51 Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is interesting. My i7 x220 does reach temps over 90 degrees which is a little worrisome.

    I've been contemplating taking it apart and replacing the stock TIM with some Arctic Silver 5 but from what I've read online its not worth the hassle (a couple of degrees lower temp at best).

    But this new fan design sounds good (perhaps too good). I wonder whether it runs at higher RPM. Did they replace the fan only or the entire heatsink assembly
     
  15. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    My understanding is that the whole heatsink was replaced.

    If one goes "by the book", they always replace the heatsink, and not just the fan itself.

     
  16. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    The entire unit, so fan and heatsink have been replaced. I don't think that's due to higher RPM - that's controlled by the motherboard, not by the fan, isn't it? So how would the MB know to run higher RPM's for that new CPU fan?

    As I type CPU temp is 49° with the new fan..before the lowest temperature reached was somewhere in high 60ies. And for the first time in a long while the HDD is louder than the fan.

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  17. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    I think it is a little less prone to whining. But I did not find the 'old' fan particularly whining at high temperatures...so either I had a good unit or I don't hear whining as other people do.
     
  18. JohnsonDelBrat

    JohnsonDelBrat Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Sorry if I missed it, but did you just buy the new fan from Lenovo?
     
  19. Pintu

    Pintu Notebook Consultant

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    I have on-site warranty, so an IBM engineer supplied and replaced it for me.
     
  20. karazi

    karazi Notebook Enthusiast

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    I replaced the fan on a t420s the other day which is a very similar procedure. I've never met a device so easy and straightforward to disassemble. They use like 4 or 5 screw types total in specific areas so it's hard to lose track of what goes where especially if you are reasonably organized. Tearing down an iPhone is a more difficult procedure than Thinkpads. I may do this with my i7 x220 since it does get quite warm under load, though the fan is relatively quiet. To those on the fence, just do it, it's not bad at all and you just need a set of small screwdrivers and that's it.
     
  21. jonmlee

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    what is the part number? thanks
     
  22. ekam

    ekam Notebook Consultant

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    According to the ebay auction, it's "0B67715 04W6931 04W8923 04W6931".

    I just ordered it for my i7 X220 since it has been idling at 55-60C and go as high as 80C on 22C ambient indoor room temp.