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    X220T specs are out

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by erik, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. erik

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    BAH, I was praying to see the HD+ screen. Too bad.
     
  3. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Will Lenovo ever add or change stuff later on?

    Looks like the ultrabase is still Spartan..
     
  4. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    Yeah. 300-nit IPS with Multitouch. Bah. Who would EVER want that. Complete disappointment.
     
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    Sunee Newbie

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    I was considering the X220 tablet, but now having doubts, as there is no USB 3.0 listed, even on the i7 version!

    @unreal25: is 300-nit IPS with Multitouch not good?
     
  6. MidnightSun

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    Is USB 3.0 that important? I'd be willing to bet that you don't have any USB 3.0 devices at the moment. Also, if you really must have it, I believe it's possible to find a flush USB 3.0 ExpressCard.

    And I'm pretty sure unreal25 was being sarcastic :rolleyes:
     
  7. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    Yeah I was. :D I mean it's supposed to be an amazing screen - it's far better than anything else available on laptops in this category. Or actually it's better than the screen MOST laptops have in ANY category.

    Btw just took another look at that PDF and saw a great carrying bag for the tablet. I. Want. It. :)
     
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    Sunee Newbie

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    coldmack Notebook Virtuoso

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    So Gorilla glass only comes on the multi-touch tablets?
     
  10. WyrmHF

    WyrmHF Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks, Erik. Do you by any chance know what "mSATA SSD - None" means. Does it mean "not supplied that way" or is it "not possible to install an SSD at all"? There is also no info on the supported SSDs in the tabook. Will X25-M G3 be offered as an option or just G2?

    On the outdoor screen only:

    Outdoor:
    12.5" (317.5mm) HD (1366x768) TFT color, anti-glare, LED backlight, 300 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 500:1 contrast ratio, 1.2% refl ectivity, multiple anti-reflectivity layers, IPS, Scratch Resistant Gorilla Glass Display

    MultiTouch:
    12.5" (317.5mm) HD (1366x768) TFT color, anti-glare, LED backlight, 300 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 500:1 contrast ratio, IPS, MultiTouch screen supports pen & five-finger gesture

    It also answers your previous question: the difference between the outdoor and indoor screens is extra anti-reflectivity layers in the outdoor screen rather than its brightness/contrast. And Erik commented that the multitouch screen was "not optimized for outdoor use". Granted that the screen is better than what most other laptops ship with, it may still be usable outdoors in a shade. Hard to make a call at this time if you need the multitouch feature. It would really help to see a side-by-side comparison near a window with bright sunlight shining in. In addition, I suspect the multitouch will be some $200 more expensive.
     
  11. coldmack

    coldmack Notebook Virtuoso

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    They both seem to be outdoor as the nits are the same, no? I thought on the X20x tablet the outdoor had higher nit screen.
     
  12. Aluminum

    Aluminum Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, I know that the guys that make the main part used for the "DIY desktop gpu dock" have at least two models.

    Personally having an expresscard slot is far more useful than a lone usb 3.0 port. (54 even! I really hope its 2.0 as well)

    It gives you many more options: esata, firewire, tuners, high power wifi cards with external antenna leads, crazy desktop gpu docks, etc :D


    I've been looking at the tablet version carefully and its tempting to wait for...

    Whats the real difference between the two tablet monitor options, if you don't care about multitouch? I would only ever use a stylus so whichever has the best overall quality is ideal.
     
  13. WyrmHF

    WyrmHF Notebook Consultant

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    I am not an expert on the topic. However, I believe you are missing an important component in your consideration.

    The light coming off a panel consists of the photons that the screen radiates (actual picture on the screen) plus the photons reflected by the screen (noise). The quality of the picture is proportional to the ratio: number of useful photons / number of noisy photons (all counted per second). In a dark room the number of noisy/reflected photons is small, ratio is high and you can enjoy a clear picture. Outdoors, the number of noisy/reflected photons is high, ratio is low and you have a hard time seeing the picture on the screen even though your eyes are bombarded with high intensity light.

    You can improve picture quality by:
    (a) Increasing screen brightness (NIT). This is equivalent to increasing the number of useful photons generated by the panel. But it has negative implications: low battery life and LCD burnout.
    (b) Decreasing reflected noise. In that case the ratio will improve even if you keep screen NIT same, so you will see a clearer picture. This is done with anti-reflectivity layers. Tabook reports reflectivity reduced to 1.2% on the outdoor panels. Unfortunately, it doesn't mention reflectivity of indoor panels. But I suspect that, in general, reducing reflectivity is a more efficient way of improving picture quality than increasing brightness. Also, due to extra layers it is probably hard to add multitouch to such screens.
     
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    vēer Notebook Deity

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    I wonder if GG could be used to make regular laptop screens sturdier? For example, added as layer on X220 etc? Not sure if its on-topic tho.

    Either way, its great to see such options on X220 tablet, lots of choice!
     
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    RickReno Notebook Guru

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  16. erik

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    "mSATA SSD / None" means it's not supplied that way.   future preconfigured models will likely be released with mSATA SSDs already installed.   all X220T models will accept an mSATA SSD.   keep in mind that what's in the PSREF sheets isn't always indicative of CTO options available on lenovo.com.

    G3 drives aren't on the market yet so you'll have to wait for their release to see if they become an option.

    anything is possible. ;)
     
  17. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    IKNOWRITE?
     
  18. coldmack

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    The TR review pretty much sold me on the tablet, I think. Now the question arises, should I get the multi-touch screen or go for the Gorilla Glass that has surprised me how much of beating it can take on my Droid 2. Now only if I could get both options in one.
     
  19. Mech0z

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    Any chance a mSATA can be mounted in my X201T? (If it has 2 slots, dont want to loose my wireless)
     
  20. rishu_pepper

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    I'm liking the tablet version, but I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of it over the non-tablet version.

    I'm a photographer who uses Photoshop sometimes on location, but nothing heavy. Tablet would be nice to show pictures to clients, but is it really necessary?

    I'll need the IPS anyway and since the tablet version comes with IPS and the non-tablet needs the IPS option added on, I'm guessing the price difference isn't much after all it's said and done?
     
  21. erik

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    it can't be done.   mSATA uses different physical leads that aren't connected in your X201T's mPCIe sockets.
     
  22. Mech0z

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    Bah, do we know yet if its only Lenovo that supports it or if Elitebooks support it as well (The sandy bridge models)
     
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    Sweet. I've read on this board that people recommend getting a dual drive setup: putting an OS and most important software on the SSD (for example, mSATA) and keeping large HDD for large data files. Then, I can get this X220t tricked up with a few other cool features like a slice battery, i7 CPU, outdoor IPS screen, etc and it'll be one hell of a tablet. :cool:
     
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    Hey, everyone. I've been hearing that the X220T will come out in April, not "summer", e.g. like 4 days. Can anyone confirm this? I also read on the specs sheet that hybrid drive sets will be available. Anyone know if this is supported on custom-built models, or only for packaged, pre-built deals? I'm buying this for college, btw, so I'd like to have an SSD to put the OS and apps on so it'll be less susceptible to BSOD and data corruption and such :p
     
  25. kimck99

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    Hi,

    This may seem like silly question but worth asking. Given that Windows 8 will be out sometime next year (beta, RC, or RTM, I'll try them all :D ), with the "Mosh" UI for tablets, does anyone think that the x220T will support the Mosh (or Metro) UI?

    I realize that we won't know until the Win8 bits are released but I am planning to purchase a laptop within the next month and I'm on the fence between teh X220 or X220T. I wish there was more information on the Mosh UI and whether current (or soon to be released X220T) will support the UI.

    I know that no one will have a definitive answer but it would be great to understand what people think.

    Thanks.