Y50 Thread

Lenovo takes a swing at the MacBook Pro Retina, introduces the Ultra HD 4K Y50 | News | TechRadar

Wow such slim very red much y500 wow.

R9 M270+3840x2160+4702HQ+16GB, 999$ base config

Oh, and it's under an inch thick :



3840x2160, you heard me right, highest laptop display on the market right now. QFHD Glory. However this will be optional and you can still get a standard FHD display.

Y40 is also confirmed, but it's screen resolution is not, so it could be 1600x900, 1920x1080 or even 3200x1800.

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y50-touch/

Also this laptop will have touch. RIP glorious matte display that the Y510p was praised for.

Above picture appears to be the Y40. Also, rear placed usb ports!

 

So they put the Y510p/yY410p on an extreme diet, added a 4K screen, R9 M270 = 7870M, hiked up the price, and it probably overheats even more now?

Meh.

 

From the looks of it, yeah. Guess they are ditching the whole gaming laptop thing and focusing on multimedia instead.

 

This 4K notebook crap feels like a pis5ing contest. PPI of 1080p on 15.6" is fine. Screen size is so small that you're gonna be running 200% DPI scaling anyway, so the screen real estate is gonna be the same whether you quadruple the resolution or not. It'll be nice if it's IPS but the screen on the Y510p isn't horrible to begin with. Why not make improvements in areas that make an actual difference, e.g. build quality and thermals? If this is being marketed as a gaming Ultrabook, don't they know that we're gonna be gaming at 1080p or lower with that GPU anyway?

 

Link's down. Dem leaks.

@Octi

They are targeting this at the Apple crowd, it seems. While 4K is far too much for 15 inch, QHD (2560x1440) can be adequate.

 

And I don't agree with that. For a gaming notebook, I think 1080p is the practical limit for a 15" considering physical screen size and GPU horsepower. 1440p only makes sense to me for 17" and 18" with SLI/CrossFire.

 

There's a page on the Lenovo website, but no content yet.

IdeaPad Y50 Touch | Lenovo | (US)
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edit: oh my bad, didn't see

 

Thanks, but i've already linked it in the OP.

 

Wow, that's a pretty impressive multimedia machine for a grand. Agree with everyone, don't think the R9 M270 will be able to push any 4K gaming "nicely", but shouldn't have a problem @1080P. Think the 4K abilities will mostly be photo/videos.

 

Not even 1080p. More like 900p. The 270M is most likely a rebranded 8790M, which is tied with the 755M. So in the performance department, the Y50 is not much of an upgrade from the current laptops, i'd even say a downgrade considering the 4702HQ is weaker than the 4700MQ.

 

Coming over from the y510p thread....I think the 4k screen is a bit of an overkill. Won't mind my laptop being a bit thinner, but frankly that's not why I bought my laptop (wouldn't have gotten a y510p if I wanted a thin laptop). It looks like the ultrabay concept is gone, which kinda sucks. No ultrabay and graphic cards in SLI would definitely solve the heating issues though.

It also looks like it'll either have a hybrid drive of 1TB + 8gb cache or a 512gb SSD.....this probably means no separate M2 SSD like the current gen y510p...

 

It's like one step forward and two steps back...

 

It will be interesting how the pricing structure is set up......I'm not sure if they'll be able to sell the 4K screen + 512 ssd + GTX Nvidia (probably GTX860) for 999....

 

At 999$ i see FHD+R270+1TB HDD.

 

Found this: Lenovo Y50 Touch - Laptops - CNET Reviews

This thing looks beautiful, but besides the screen and the size, its not really much of an upgrade.

 

No it wouldn't because the main heat issue with the current design is the shared fan between CPU and main GPU, hence no one seems to be able to run his i7-4700MQ at full speed using ThrottleStop without overheating. Those overheating Ultrabays are probably just a fluke, a manufacturing defect, since there's no conceivable reason that the second GPU should run 20C hotter than the first considering its dedicated fan and proximity from the main heat source. My Ultrabay has never had an issue from day one even before repasting, and after repasting everything it still runs cooler than the CPU and main GPU.

I sure hope that crack team of engineers at Lenovo had the sense to decouple the CPU and GPU fan this time around considering the thinness of that chassis and the single hotter GPU's it'll be using.

It's a downgrade in gaming performance if you already have one of the SLI models.

 

Also does this mean that the Y50 is the Y600? The only reason I think it may not be is because the Y600 is still on Lenovo's site. Maybe the Y50 is supposed to go back to just a multimedia laptop and then the Y600 will be their gaming series? I thought it was just something to note and think about.

 

Pretty sure the Y600 was scrapped, a concept from a couple years ago that never saw the light of day. Last I checked it had something ridonculous like 680M SLI.

 

i think the article says y50 will have nvidia and y40 will have the the nvidia or amd graphics card, i think you will see the base model for $999 and depending on which card you decide to get, started at $1200 with the video card, screen looks amazing though, this might be a macbook killer, as the dedicated card would be excellent for graphical work as long as the display is accurate.

 

Really nice design finally. Even for a GTX860m, 1440p is a definite overkill. Though if the scaling of Win 8.1 or 8.2 by May brings flawless transition into say 1080p gaming, they will have my $.

 

I joined this forum just to post in this thread. I'm so pumped for this thing, it just looks so damn amazing. The Y40 and the Y50 look like stellar machines, and personally I'm glad they dumped the whole mid range SLI thing. However, there is some weird reporting going on w/ the pricing. Some outlets are saying 599, others 999. I'm pretty sure it's 599 for the revamped Z series and 999 starting for the Y series, right?
EDIT:
Also read something that a lot of manufacturers are looking into replacing sata with mpcie for storage duties. Could open up a lot of opportunities for Egpus, eh?

 

Sweet looking notebook. Excellent value versus rMBP. Even if the the 270 is only as fast as a 755m, it offers much better value than the rMBP.

1080p should look fine on that monitor. But agree that a 755 is better suited to 900p.

Hopefully the 270 is a pleasant surprise. With Intel breathing down the backs of the AMD and NV's midstream parts hopefully they get their act together.

 

Can the gtx 860m really compete with the 755m SLI ?
I just hope its not too significant a downgrade in performance....
and is the starting price 500 $ (pcper) or 999 $ (cnet)...

 

It can't

Considering 860M is a rebadge of 760M and 760M is considerably slower than 650M/750M/755M SLI, I'd say there's not much hope.

 

Well then...what was lenovo bloody thinking ??!
there are tons of competitors in the thin + light gaming : clevo w230st, msi ge40
but the y510p was in a class of it's own, in it's price range.

 

Following Nvidia's rebranding during the evolutionary upgrades, gtx860m should be around gtx765 in terms of performance. This is still about 20-25% less than SLI 755m but you won't have the micro-stuttering effect which is evident in most sli-setups.

On top of that, we really can't tell if its the gtx860m Lenovo will be using or not...
GTX865m for e.g. should roughly reach the speeds of gtx770m. In such case, Y50 can be easily considered promising in terms of gaming performance.

 

There's not much to speculate about. You switch the first 7 to an 8 and they're all rebadges of existing products. AMD did this exact same thing from Radeon 7xxxM to 8xxxM. 860M/865M matching 770M levels of performance is still a distant dream when they're bottlenecked by the 128-bit memory bus.

 

Yeah, it's gonna have some serious competition against the QHD+ IPS W230 w/860M.

On the bright side, Y40 with FHD looks like a winner, assuming they keep the cool 800$ price tag. Best of all, NO TOUCHSCREEN on the Y40

Also, Cnet states the laptops will have an Optical drive. Go figure.

 

Frankly they are switching away from a gaming machine to a multimedia machine. That's fine, but I'm happy that I got in on the SLI before they are scrapping it in the Y50.

RIP Ultrabay....great concept, not so great execution (Lenovo could have done SO much with this, but all the ultrabay supply problems was a huge issue).

 

Lenovo Y50 Gaming Laptop (Geforce GTX 8X0M) @ CES 2014 - YouTube

the lenovo rep at the end of the video confirms the price to be starting from 699 $. In my mind that's great value.

 

This 4K resolution is perfect for 15", if there is any software trouble just scale down natively to Full HD! And I suppose many people actually prefer a setup that can use Optimus vs. SLI.

And to people claiming the 8xx series would be the same as 7xx, let's just wait. 6xx to 7xx has surely brought some improvements.

 

That's probably with a 1366x768 display however, i see a 100$ display upgrade as a bare minimum to use the laptop.

 

I've read somewhere that the 1080p display will be basic. However, the rep in the vid said up to gtx graphics, up to touch display, and up to an I7. Hopefully the 860m and an I7 with 1080p will be under the 1000 mark. Maybe Lenovo will introduce a snazzy configurator on their website like HP and other PC sellers do.

I see the y50 going after the XPS 15's neck with that 4k screen though.

 

how good is the AMD R9 M270?
Dont know much about it.

 

Implying it is a rebranded 8790M, it's about 10% weaker than the 755M:

AMD Radeon HD 8790M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

This is understandeable due to the Y40 being thinner, thus having less thermal headroom.

 

What scaling, are you saying that any notebook even the one in my signature will play games crisper on a screen resolution other than the native one (similar to the infamous xbox cod scaling from 540p to 1080p)?

 

Technically, 1080p is "kinda" native on a 4K panel, due to the 4K panel having exactly 4 times the pixels. Hence why lots of Mac users game at 1200x800.

 

If Dell continues to have ridiculous shipping dates come February, I'll just wait for this.

The only downside seems to be that there's no dual HDD option.

CNET days the Y50 has an optical drive but I don't think so. What have you guys seen?

And I wonder if the Y50 will have mSATA or M.2? If there is only a single drive option I'll have to go with the XPS regardless as I refuse to attempt video editing on just one hard drive.

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ive heard on this site the y40 will be level with 7870m??? kinda thought that was a bit insane. but the y50 with 860m will be around 770m or even faster. but defo ahead of the 765m.

 

Lol @the people saying that this will not be much of an upgrade.
Sure in raw gaming power maybe not.. but considering that 90% if people don't want a laptop to just sit on their desk this is a HUGE improvement.. they shaved 1/3 of the weight and arround 2/5 of the thickness off of this.
Also it adresses one of my biggest issues with the y510...they removed that horrible glossy keyboard deck that was just waiting for scratches &amp; fingerprints. I still see some high gloss next to the speakers but at least i won't be touching that part continuously.

Also hopefully if they removed the sli it will not have so many issues with heat dissipation.
Here's hoping to an IPS screen with good contrast and luminosity and I will start screeming LENOVO TAKE MY MONEEEEY!!

Later edit: If it actually has a dvd drive like it says in some info floating arround then this baby is just asking for a caddy and SSD alongside that 1 TB Hdd

 

In the video the rep says that the y50 he is holding will be available in Q1 of 2014.

Anyone know about the y40? I'm currently typing on a 1 day old y410p and would love to return it and order a y40. the y410p is much heavier then I thought it would be.

 

Both laptops availability has beeen annoinced as may 2014... dunno if this will be with all the gpu options though

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The y40 will be a pound lighter, however it won't have an optical drive so you will most likely be limited to a single drive. With this said, let's hope Lenovo *does not* recycle the T440p IPS panels into the Y40, because it has some bleeding and yellowing issues.

 

@Jobine, yes let's hope!

Everything I've found so far has indicated a May time frame for release of the y40. It looks like I'll keep the y410p (i like it actually a lot, just wish it was tigher/lighter) and attempt to sell it this summer!

 

Well, everything I've been reading is pointing to this:

$699 base Y40 price.
$999 base Y50 price.

The Radeon/Nvidia graphics are optional, however.

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So that prices are with the Intel IGP with no deditaced GPU? it seems like a joke to me

 

Ya seems like you woulf buy a thinner laptop desogned for iGPU.

 

That's what it seems like. But, chances are, it will be the 'normal' price on Lenovo.com, which isn't too bad. Lenovo is always running promotions, so you could possibly get the dedicated for those prices 95% of the time.

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699$ is a great price for a laptop with that look + quad-core + FHD display.

 

I totally forgot about the display, maybe the y40 is not so expensive, but the Y50 is for a IGP laptop