Y50 Thread

Nah, i see 999$ for Y50 with FHD/860M

This is Lenovo's consumer line we are talking about.

 

Yeah, probably.
But exactly how powerful will the 860M be? OC 765M? Is that worthy enough of an upgrade from the 770M-rivaling SLI setup? I mean, don't get me wrong, it looks amazing, plus a 4K display, but it had better be enough to run BF4 on 1080, high settings (and keep cool, which wasn't the predecessor's forte).

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I don't think it will run cool, and asking for Y510p level performance in a smaller chassis is not the best idea, thermally speaking.

 

Well, as long as it is Decently powerful, quiet, and not scalding to the touch, this will probably be my next laptop (unless I find a hell of a deal on that new Aorus X7).

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No it's a downgrade as I've said before. Even if it's an overclocked 765M it'll still be bottlenecked by its lack of memory bandwidth at 900p and higher. The 128-bit bus is the main thing that kills performance on the 765M. You keep shader performance the same but add more ROPs and 192-bit bus and you get a massive increase in performance, e.g. 650 Ti to 650 Ti Boost. At 4K, that 128-bit bus is a joke considering it's already a bottleneck at 900p.

 

Well it's not confirmed yet wether the 860 is a rebrand. For one I'm expecting nvidia to launch 840 850 and 860 as a new maxwell chip on 28nm but we'll see. Maybe they'll go full out rebrands who knows.

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840M (which will appear in the new Z40/Z50) is a confirmed 750M rebrand (which in turn is a 660M rebrand).

 

Maybe that's the reason why the z50 is available much earlier I'm still hoping fir 860/850 broadwell.
Also let's be serious ...no one is going to game at 4k. 1080p is basically also a native resolution as it is exactly 1/4 the screen real estate and thus each pixel will be comprised of exactly 4 smaller pixels thus eliminating any chance of the blurriness you usually use for downscaling

 

You are confusing Broadwell and Maxwell. Broadwell is Intel's 5th Gen Core i series processor line.

4K is gimmicky in the sense that 3K is the preferred resolution for workstation jobs, and 1080p is the best resolution for gaming.

 

My bad about broadwell...i knew that one so i dunno why i made that mistake
I even said maxwell on the post before that.

4k will be the new fullHD in a few years but since it is 4x1080p you won't see any blur when downscaling to that resolution for gaming.

That was the whole idea behind my post...that you are essentially future prooofing(for media content and such) your laptop when choosing a 4k screen while still being able to play at 1080p without any drawbacks

 

I was close to pulling the trigger on a t540p or ativ 8 for photo editing. However, the Y50 looks pretty damn good. Do you guys think I'll have any issues for my use if I get the Y50 with 4k display and the quad core?

The only reason I didn't consider the y510 was due to the thickness.

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Well it seriously depends on the quality of the panel that they will use... if it won't have a good color gamut then photo editing will not be really viable.

P.S. just to correct some false info floating arround ... this thing WILL NOT have an optical drive. You can clearly see this in the following hands-on video.

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49hhTRbxJXM

However from the big cooling intake on the bottom an the 2 exhausts on the back flanking the screen(reminescent of the asus G series) it looks like it will have pretty good cooling. Probably a dual fan system from the looks of it. That coupled with the lack of a SLI setup means that this thing will probably run cooler than the y510p

 

Here's another video with a Lenovo rep talking about the 2 laptops

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzJRkwuozow

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Looks to have a sealed battery as well?

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Yeah definetly internal battery so they can make the laptop sleeker. Also i'm guessing that round thingy on the bottom next to the cooling air intake is a subwoofer so this laptop should turn out to be a fully loaded multimedia machine

Here's another video of these two babies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5FGHCqyhto

I have some more videoa if people want to see them but for the moment I'll stop here unless someone specifically asks for them

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If you could, please post em all. Or PM me. I'm very interested in this one.

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These are the last 2 I have found in english.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdam_lpziw0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xJ2wtEqE2s

I have some more in turkish and czezh if you want them but those i'll pm you if you want them

P.S.The only things that could pull this notebook down is if they won't include an mSata port additional to the normal Sata III and if they release it with throttling issues that can not be fixed by slight undervolting of the CPU , Throttlestop software and changing the fan profiles. .

If they don't screw that up and the display will be as good as it looks right now then this thing will top the sales charts even if it will need some tinkering to run at good temps.

Until few days ago I wanted to buy the n56 refresh with gt760m but this thing convinced me to wait.
Even if it's not going to be a massive leap in performance this thing looks WICKED SICK compared to the bussinessy-look of the n56/n550 while not being over the top and bulky like the alienware and msi gaming laptops.

It has just the right amount of BLING to it an just the right ammount of power to size/weight IMO )

LENOVO don't let me down !!!!

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Internal battery, no dvd drive, too thin so not that good cooling, gtx 860m, touchscreen ? Where is the gpuz ?
Too much is still unknown or not really attractive about this y50..

 

All that you have mentioned as unattractive is what is attractive to me.

Touchscreen is an option so you can still have the matte version.

Too thin?!? 2.4 cm is not too thin...razer blade has 1.7cm and excelent cooling for a simillar gpu, samsung ativ book 8 has 2.4 cm and radeon hd8870 with absolutely no throttling. Also if you look closely at the exhaust it has a dual fan cooling solution so the chances are it will be ok

Internal battery...how many people actually have a second battery and carry it with them...I for one am fully happy that they reduced some of the clunkyness of this laptop by making a non removable battery

Gtx860 worst case scenario is a OC rebranded gtx765 wich is still on par with SLI750 without all the HEAT , microstuttering and driver dependency.

Lack of dvd will only be an issue if they will not have an msata slot on the mainboard....that's presuming you want to switch it with a caddy. Otherwise an external odd is 50$

But for me the addition of a touchscreen and 4k display is what will really set this laptop apart from the other contenders in it's class as you will be futureproofing your rig with these options.

If you want pure gaming power then you should definetly look at some clevos or msi gaming rigs. This one is in the small category of gaming multimedia hybrids that in my opinion will flourish during the following years as there are alot of casual gamers out there that would like their notebooks to be somewhat more portable

Disclaimer: Ofcourse it can still turn out to be a total failure )

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Even if it won't have an mSATA slot, it's still awesome. Of course dual drives would be nice, but nowadays with 512 gig SSDs a standalone SSD can also be sufficient. As long as the battery life doesn't suck too much (hope for >4 hours), I'll be waiting for this and disregarding the ativ 8 and xps 15.

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Looks like I nailed it...dual fans solution. What I didn't nail is the exhaust...looks like it's behind the display hinge.

The video is in german but the guy is running the presentation video on the laptop and you can see on the screen the dual fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycY63kCGXs

Looks like there might also be an y70 coming.

Also I just saw in another video that the y40 is equipped with a TN panel because it has crappy viewing angles

 

Sorry double post

 

*hands the leadership of the thread to -Jinx-*

 

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A 17" laptop that looks like a super slim Y510 procreated with a Macbook Air? Sign me up for that monstrosity.

 

10 char post answer
Sorry for the english..

 

You could wait... or get a MSI GS70, i've seen some for like 1299$ on Newegg.

 

I understand what you are saying. This laptop might not be right for you then... that doesn't mean it won't be an awesome laptop for thousands of other people.

P.S. what country are you from....just so i know and never go there )

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Think I'll wait for the Y70, if it's coming, especially if it keeps the sleek looks of the Y50. Otherwise I'll probably just upgrade to the Y50. I don't need it for super intensive gaming. I do want a 4K screen to match the screen I'll buy for my desktop and I don't need an optical drive. Plus is just looks so prettah.

 

I still can't understand those people who upgrade their laptops yearly. Still got another 2 years here before i even think of a laptop upgrade.

 

Hehe...same here. My rig is a 4 year old MSI that's barely running. I want to get either the asus n56jr or the lenovo y50 when it comes out and keep it for aprox 3-4 years.

But yeah...it does look preetah!!! )

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Upgrading mostly because the--unless it has changed as I haven't posted in a while--GT750M ultrabay never came out for the Y400. Plus I'm a technophile. If I didn't upgrade this than it would be something else and I've already gotten a Nexus 5; so it won't be my phone.

 

Just joined the forum to ask this question.

Did anybody confirm if the panel is gonna be TN or IPS? Was planning to grab a Sony Flip 15 but saw this coming out and deciding if I should wait or not. Mostly gonna be use as a multimedia and only light gaming. The panel not being an IPS would be a deal breaker for me.

 

The panel on the y50 is confirmed to be IPS whilst the y40 is a TN

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Confirmed where? 4K at this price point is almost guaranteed to be TN.

 

I think the german video Jinx posted earlier had the guy say IPS. If anybody can translate that section? XD

Also what is the case made out of? I'm guessing some type of carbon from the video?

 

There is no pricepoint for 4k...4k is an option that will drive up the price. 999$ is the starting point for the standard 1080p screen....probably no touch also at this price. If you want all the bells and whistles you'll have to pay extra.

It's confirmed in the german video by the guy and it's confirmed by me from the EXTREME viewing angles that are visible in ALL the videos.

Check out 00:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYRVeDLIMzA

Also at this point in time there are no known 4k TN panels for laptops at least to my knowledge but I could be wrong.

The one that LOOKS like carbon is the y40. My educated guess is that it's probably aluminum with a special coating as carbon would be much too expensive and would be heavily advertised.The Y50 is the one with brushed aluminum case.

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Alright, thx for the info!

 

Since when did genuine curiosity turn into "slamming your posts?" Oversensitive much? Oh wait, you must be new here.

 

Ok so slamming might not be the right word for it...and i might have overreacted a little...ok alot ) .. but contradicting someone just for the sake of doing it without any actual proof ain't ok in my book. If you would have had any argument whatsoever for what you said I wouldn't have been so touchy.

Moving on..Jobine tomorrow I'm going to post summary of all the things that are known about this machine so if you would be so kind as to include them in your original post at the start of this thread it would be much easier for newcomers.

 

How do you know it will have a matte option?

 

Matte was a wrong word....i didn't find matte anywhere...what I found is that the touchscreen is optional.... so you can get a non-touch version.

That being said I seriously doubt they will use a glossy panel on this...they learned the lesson from the y580 (I think )..the one with the 560m single gpu wich had a horrible glossy panel everyone complained about. The predecessor of the y500

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The Y580 had a 660M. What a hypocrite.

 

That really has nothing to do with the idea behind my answer does it ) especially after i clearly specified that I don't know for sure if that's even the name of the laptop.
Raging much are we? )

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No but if you want to act like a jerk I'll be more than happy to oblige.

 

The smiley face after the comment that you quoted FROM ANOTHER THREAD about wrong info clearly suggests a joke....especially after admitting that I overreacted earlier with the "slamming". A joke in response to which you used insulting language that i will not quote here (but I have reported you for it )
Also I have a feeling you would not be so brave as to use that kind of language face to face with me or anyone else you little internet warrior you )

Cheers and have a nice evening! (Or morning ..dunno where you live)

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Why do you doubt they will use a glossy panel? The y580 had a glossy, yes. But so did it's successor the y500. Lenovo.com sold a matte y510p for a short while, but now it seems like they only sell glossy.

And so far ALL the vids I've seen for the y50 have glossy panels.

Odds are it's gonna be a glossy only screen...after all they are gunning for the MacBook, which also is a glossy only machine.

 

All the videos show a glossy screen because they are touch...there is no such thing as matte touch...at least none that I have heard about.

About the y50 non-touch being glossy or matte...we'll just have to wait an see I guess.

Later Edit: looks like lenovo online shop is indeed selling y510p glossy... this was new for me...everyone that i know and has this lappy has a matte panel. I really thought lenovo had learned it's lesson after all the poor reviews.

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If there was going to be a matte y50, Lenovo would have been bragging about it in their press releases. This will be a glossy laptop.

 

What you are saying makes absolutely no sense.

Why would they "brag"...matte is not something expensive or special...it's the same screen with a cheap treatment applied to it... it's a choice they make and each has it's own advantages and disadvantages(glossy has better color reproduction and matte has the advantage of no reflectability). There are no bragging rights to get for this.

And where did you get the idea that lenovo is gunning for mac... there is absolutely nothing in common between those laptops.

Macbooks are bussinessy laptops with bland looks ,mediocre specs(new macbook does not even have dedicated gpu from my understanding) and good build quality.... they are in a whole other segment.

Dell XPS is a contender for the macbook not the y50.

The y50 will be competing more with Razer blade type laptops and gigabyte.

They are GAMING laptops although slimmed down versions. To compete with the macbook would mean it intends to steal their customers... but as no serious gamer would buy a mac it means there are no customers to steal

If you're talking about the whole 4k ...that has NOTHING to do with macbooks... it's just the direction in wich multimedia machines and content are moving right now and because 4k screens scale perfectly back to 1080p there is no disadvantage for gaming.

Conclusion...no one can say for sure if th y50 will have a glossy or matte display for it's non-touch version.

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