Y50 Thread

Well it wasn't a statistic...just my personal belief. (therefor the "i believe that..." in that sentence)

Anyway as you say...it's just a matter of personal tastes.

I just hope that this clears any previously aquired differences that we had in the past. For the most part I find you a knowledgeable poster...just that we don't share some points of view.

Also I am willing to admit that I have been too "personal" with some of my previous posts and would like to say sorry for that.

 

I just had a long chat with Lenovo rep. It seems they are going to launch z40,z50 and z70 in the month of July and the Y50 in the month of May.

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^Obed Masih: Thank you for contacting Lenovo Sales Chat. My name is Obed and my Rep ID is 2900716280. Happy to help you today.
^Obed Masih: Hello Marcus.
Marcus: I am interested in Lenovo Ideapad Y50.
Marcus: It is already the last week of April. When it is going to be released?
^Obed Masih: Sure, I will be glad to help you with that information.
^Obed Masih: Please give me a moment, while I check this for you.
^Obed Masih: Thank you.
Marcus: Please take your moment.
^Obed Masih: Thank you.
^Obed Masih: Y50 is due in the month of May.
^Obed Masih: I do not have the date so far.
Marcus: Thank you for that information. I am also interested to know, are there more upcoming 4k laptops from Lenovo?
^Obed Masih: You are welcome, Let me check this for you.
Marcus: Please check it.
^Obed Masih: Thank you for your time.
^Obed Masih: There will be some new machine in the month of July.
^Obed Masih: I am not sure if it will be 4k or not.
^Obed Masih: As do not have that information.
Marcus: Ok. Is there any chance of having a graphics card (gpu) of gtx 880m. I am really interested in buying that.
^Obed Masih: We do not have that graphic card as this time.
Marcus: Maybe in the future or next year?
^Obed Masih: Yes, there will be new graphic card available shortly.
Marcus: Can you please tell us some information (little bit will do) about the new machine you were talking about in the month of July?
^Obed Masih: Z40, Z50 and Z70 will launch.
^Obed Masih: Please check the link below.
The agent is sending you to Lenovo Z40 Laptop | 14" Multimedia Notebook PC | Lenovo (US).
The agent is sending you to Lenovo Z50 Laptop | 15.6" Multimedia Notebook PC | Lenovo (US).
^Obed Masih: Thank you.
Marcus: Is this the machine you were talking about in the month of July?
^Obed Masih: Yes, you are right.
The agent is sending you to Lenovo Horizon 2 Table PC | Multi-User Fun | Lenovo (US).
Marcus: I am interested in buying a 4k laptop with gtx 880m. Is there any hope of 4k laptop with this graphic card (gpu) gtx 880m in the future? If yes, please tell me sir.
^Obed Masih: I am sorry, we do not have that information as if now.
^Obed Masih: You can contact us later and check back.
^Obed Masih: Is there anything else I may assist you with?
Marcus: No. Thank you for your time.
^Obed Masih: To ensure that we are always improving our service, you may receive a survey invitation at the end of the chat session to tell us what you think about our products and services. Your feedback will be highly appreciated.
^Obed Masih: Thank you for contacting Lenovo Sales Chat. Have a great day ahead.
^Obed Masih: Bye and take care.
Marcus: You too and launch the Y50 as fast as possible.
^Obed Masih: Sure!
^Obed Masih: Bye.
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Coming from very general population here compared to most people on this forum.

Where do people buy Asus computers from? And when buying PCs where the manufacturer says "available with Blu Ray" but you can never find the product with the actual Blu Ray drive is a site like Xotic PC a safe alternative?

Wanting to buy this JK model with Blu Ray as they advertise and I'm not finding it anywhere. So I'm considering buying from Xotic and then even upgrading the memory while I'm there as well.

Any thoughts?

 

If I remeber correctly, doesn't Asus offer places to buy on the page of the laptop? But Xotic is a good substitute, I have never dealt with them, but Imhave heard great things about them.

 

Anyone know if stores like Amazon get first shipment much later than Lenovo starts selling it from its on online store?

 

That's only 1v1 though, if you play 2v2 or more it will be very laggy, but you can argue that no one plays 2v2 ladder. The other thing is that the retina only goes up to 3k

 

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^Nekuri :
Thank you for contacting Lenovo Sales Chat. My name is Jayaraju and my Rep ID is 2900713382. Happy to help you today.
Buk Lau :
what up
Buk Lau :
so i look for the y50 here today
Buk Lau :
what day it coming?
^Nekuri :
in a month or so.
^Nekuri :
the release date is not yet confirmed.
Buk Lau :
so it around the what week may?
Buk Lau :
like a 2nd week or 3rd week?
^Nekuri :
probably second.
Buk Lau :
ok ok thank you big boi
^Nekuri :
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Is dis da sombodi?

 

Like a sombodee I need to make an order of the y50 today

 

I don't think Asus sells their laptops directly, at least in the US. They only have accessories and replacement parts on the store.

The only issue is that the XoticPC price is significantly higher than Amazon's. (~$140 difference). But Amazon doesn't accept returns unless the laptop is defective. And I assume XoticPC won't price match if you're customizing it.

 

I checked with Xotic when the N550jk was $1099 on Amazon and was told they couldn't match it even stock . I ended up going through Amazon for the price savings and replacing the HD myself. I bet it would be easy to replace the optical drive too, but you might want to check the cost and availability of the replacement drive with Asus.

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Hey guys I am curious about the possible heating issues of this computer considering the toasters of the previous generation. As someone previously said there is a fan exhaust under the hinge just like macbooks and it is visible in the official photos in Lenovo website, however I am certainly sure that; that little gap won't be enough to cool the whole system. Does anyone know if the two big speaker/car exhaust looking spaces in the rear are really for ventilation?

 

That "litlle gap" is actually pretty big and should be suficient for a dual fan cooling system.

Y510 was a toaster due to SLI and Kepler GPU's wich have a higher TDP than maxwell.

The y50 has a single GPU(gtx860m) with 45W TDP wich is similar with the gt750m from a heat generation point of view.

The Asus n550 equiped with 750m has exactly the same style exhaust(screen hinge) and has no problems with overheating.

At this point no one can tell you certainly if the 2 "things" at the back of the laptop are vents or not.... but from the teaser video that lenovo was showing @CES i will say they are purely decorative OR only for intake. The video was showing the air being exhausted on all the lenght of the screen hinge and nowhere else.

 

I also prefer the pixelated first picture. Interpolation is basically applying a blur filter. Nobody does that to get better image quality while gaming in 1080p.


The whole point of playing in 1080p on a 4K screen would be to get the exact same image as somebody playing in native 1080p. From what I read here, it's actually not what you get.

So I will look for the y50 with the 1080p screen. If they had even lower resolutions I would go for that..

 

What peolle don't realise is that interpolation from fullHD to to 4k will not be noticeable due to the already very high DPI.

That picture is zoomed in 200%

Personally I played on a 3k screen with upscaled 1600x900 and failed to see any blur.(Dell XPS)

 

No offense intended, but maybe it also depends on your eyesight?

There's a big difference between saying "The result will be 100% identical, since each pixel is just doubled", and "Ok, so it's interpolated, but I personally don't notice any blur"...

 

Anyone knows for sure the material used on the lid...keyboard/Palm rest and the bottom?

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Oh my bad then, from the photo I've seen in Lenovo's website the hinge exhaust reaches only to half of the screen.( http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/1060x596/lenovo-laptop-y50-keyboard-2.jpg)

So I thought there may only be a single fan cooling system. If it is all along the hinge then yes, they can easily use a dual fan cooling and it will probably won't overheat. :thumbsup:

If this laptop "keeps things cool" during idle it is definetly a go for me over MSI GE60 Apache or GS60 Ghost

 

I believe in multiple previews people said that the lid and bottom was brushed aluminum and the palm rest is soft plastic (maybe like the Alienware's), but then again, there isn't something 100% certain about this laptop since it isn't released yet, so probably no one here "knows for sure".

 

Yea... just wanted to see what people thought .... I was hoping the Palm rest would be aluminum coz it would feel nice and cool in air conditioned rooms


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No offense taken.

My eyesight is not 20/20 but I do wear glasses and with them on I see perfectly.

Ignoring my personal eyesight, the dell XPS with 3k and some other laptops with 3k have been out for quite some time and none of the reviews said that they found any blurriness while using them in 1600x900 mode.

Also i could find no complaints on the owners lounge...on the contrary actually...the words "identical to a 1600x900 screen" have been used in several posts.

That doesn't mean there is none...just that since it hasn't been mentioned in any of the reviews and there are no complaints amongst the owners on this forum it's not noticeable for the majority of the population.

You can always go down to your local microcenter/bestbuy if you are from the USA and test it out yourself


P.S. Also it's just of matter of software .... the 4k screen has the capability to show 1080p the same as another screen with native 1080p.

If it would have been an actual issue then I think it would be pretty easy for nvidia/amd to put a "disable (whatever the name is)" tickbox in the control panel and resort to pixel doubling instead of interpolation for upscaling.

 

Handson reviews of the machine reported "metallic palmrest with soft-touch finish".

 

I would certainly go with Ghost if it didn't cost south of $1700

 

Seriously?

Is that because the MSI has the weaker hotter GPU with a bigger power consumption? )

If the lenovo y50 doesn't cost less than 1500$ i definetly won't buy it....but the MSI would be an even worst choice.

 

And turn your head to what?

 

I'll just play the waiting game one more year...

Things to look forward to in 2015 : 20Nm Maxwell, DDR4, Broadwell

Looks like it will be a pretty good year...atleast on paper

But seriously...I expect that the lenovo y50 with gtx860m and fullHD non-touch will retail arround 1000-1100 $ in the US ..touch will add arround 100-150 more probably.

1100-1250$ is a reasonable amount for this laptop without 4k wich means here in europe it would arrive @1100-1350€ (yeah it's #### to live in europe when it comes to buying electronics)

4k will probably increase the price over my budget but I'll just have to wait and see

 

I'd be absolutely delighted with those prices. If I could get a GTX and 1080p for under €1200 I'd be a happy man.

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Me too. And if that FHD will by any chance be IPS, that would be awesome.

 

Yeah man, that price tag makes the lenovo the first choice, even if the Ghost's build quality would be superior to lenovo, the price gap is huge (probably about 500$!).

I hope y50 lives to expectations though, we've been waiting for it for a long time

 

Well.... it depends alot on each person if it lives up to expectations.

What I mean is some people have unrealistically high expectations AND want a small price...that just isn't possible.

Personally I won't care very much if the keyboard is a wee bit squishy, the trackpad isn't perfect , the speakers aren't of extraordinary quality...those are minor annoyances that I can live with if this machine has a reasonable price.

What I couldn't live with is poor quality display and overheating/throttling.

 

This is why sometimes I wish the y50 could be released later or Broadwell coming out much earlier. 2014 is just a bad year for gamers. Everything is transitioning and there are just too many in-between products that are good only for now, with much better things coming out in half years. It's like if I get Haswell now it's all good, but Broadwell is just gonna better but don't have enough time to wait

 

Yeah I think you are right about the price, a few more days and we will see. I hope the it will be like the one that you said or I won't buy it too.

 

Broadwell will be the least of the new stuff I'm looking forward to. Intels mobile processors right now are waaaay ahead of the dGPU's that are available.

The main attraction for me will be 20Nm Maxwell wich will bring even lower TDP and a pretty big boost in performance as it is a node change.

DDR4 is also high on my wishlist.

 

don't you need to put SSD option in that equation?

Just joined the forums couldn't resist commenting the mighty popeye! cant wait for y50 to come out

 

Well Broadwell will be much more efficient than Haswell and delivers a much higher performance. The problem with the 20nm Maxwell is gonna the smaller die which will be harder to cool. Still, you gotta admit that 2014 is bad year for buying computers with all the transitioning hardware

 

870m
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-870M.107792.0.html
battlefield 4 - 36.2
call of duty ghosts -37.3
metro last light - 34.4
bioshock infinite - 52.2
crysis 3 - 26

860m(Maxwell - ge70 apache)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn9pZqJ_AT8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
bioshock infinite - 60
call of duty: ghosts - 56
battlefield 4 - 37
metro last night - 35
crysis 3 - 22

cnet review of the ge60 said bioshock infinite played at 53

Am I missing something or is the 860m Maxwell really head to head with the 870m? coz the gs60 (Keplar version) benchmarks are much lower...

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Don't trust YouTube. If you go to notebook check, then you will see actual benchmarks, which put the gtx 860m much lower, ex. Bioshock was at ~40fps on ultra.

 

Early signs of maxwell desktop says they are going to release at the same 28 mm so I won't hold my breath for a 20 mm anytime soon
About the 860m Maxwell and 870m Kepler... the 870 is much stronger at the same res... there is a comparison on notebookcheck of both 860m that lists the 870... go read that.

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Totally agree with this one, some cosmetic or minor weaknesses are far less important for me too since I will probably use an external mouse-keyboard and a headset for gaming.

 

Yea ive already checked the benchmarks in notebookcheck....I was wondering if that was Kepler

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Alright guys since we aRe running out of topics, why don't we talk about the wireless card? Do you guys think it's better to have intel ac 7260 or killer 1202 N? W/o an ac router killer definitely is better bUt since now AC routers are more widely used, intel card woUld have an advantage.

 

Popeye buys his SSD's aftermarket. That way he's not limited to the brand/capacity that the manufacturer(of the laptop) wants to use and he gets better value for money.

Just don't start calling me capt. Phillips....in my line of work that's just inviting bad things to happen.

 

Considering that lenovo's goal with the Y series laptops in general is to make them as affordable as possible I doubt we'll get either the 7260 or the1202N.

Most probably some #%!&ty atheros or intel 6xxx without AC.

The real problem would be if they will still be using a whitelist in bios wich would make it impossible for us to change it with another Wifi of our choosing.

 

I mean, if they used a 7260 N on y510p, then I think a 7260 AC is a possible option for y50

 

Hmmm...maybe I'm wrong but from what I remember my brothers y510 didn't come with the 7260N...but then again it could just be that's how they made it for eastern europe.

Later edit: I can confirm now that my brothers y510p shipped with Intel 2230N wireless. Notebookcheck confirms this version on their test model asswell.

There's atleast one other model that I know about with the Intel 6235N

From my knowledge the 7260AC is not even in the bios whitelist so it can't be used on y510p without modding the bios.

Post Edited(forgot to specify AC ...7260AC is not part of whitelist)

 

I am not a PC gamer...I have a PS4 for that. I am looking for a slim, powerful, light, and attractive looking laptop that is good for CAD work, programs like Solidworks or Inventor. How will the Y50 handle these programs, if I get all the high end specs for it?

 

The y50 specs would be more than adequate for that kind of work.

 

The current Y510p model is the US comes with the Intel 7260N wireless.

It may be sufficient, but the latest versions of Solidworks don't work well with Geforce cards. Some features will not be supported. If you're using it heavily I would really recommend something with a professional graphics card (Quadro, FirePro).

 

I just realised I failed to mention "AC"..the 7260AC is not part of the bios whitelist

I was reading about this just a few days ago, and it was said that they are still testing the 7260AC and it's possible they will add it to the whitelist in the future.

Just so people don't get confused...this is the y510p bios whitelist

 

Here we are, at the end of the month, not even a spec sheet released. All hope is lost.