Y50 Thread

It's sad that they don't have the mSATA for it. Would have been an awesome

 

Here is da review of da y50.
It will have the graphics, the cpus, and the rams.
Unfortunate, it will not come with the boats n hoes.
Lenovo Y50 Review - eCoustics.com
boy oh boy da keyboard is squish.
like flacid man tentacle

 

Seems like they improved on the touchpad but worsened the keyboard.

 

Anyone can tell me about dimension of y50?

I know only about thickness...

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All I saw from that review is the word PROTOTYPE. Also it says in the review that it loses DVD drive wich is clearly not true so...take everything with a grain of salt.

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They though why give ultrabay with x2 850m if the 860m(benchmark quite faster then 770m) could perform better both.

Dismiss ultrabay is a simple solution for the design because now is a Gaming notebook...before was only gaming...maybe could we called desktop because was horrible compared to competitor Mac book pro.

CD/DVD slot is usesless on this notebook and how many time have you used it lately? Maybe only for format xD

Give me size number in inch or mm about y50

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Anybody notice on that spec sheet that the weights are off a bit? They say:

Y40: 2.2kg, 4lbs
Y50: Non-touch 2.4kg(4.7lb); touch 2.6kg (5.7lbs)

I don't know which definition of kg and lb they are using, but those numbers don't seem to match up. Assuming the kg measurements are correct, that would put the Y40 at 4.8lbs, the non-touch Y50 at 5.3lb and the touch Y50 at 5.7lbs. That actually makes more sense than the idea that a touch screen adds a pound of weight and that a 14" laptop weighs 15% less than an identically-spec'd 15".

 

Nice catch. I'd assume the kg measurements are correct, but 5.7lb brings it into the range of the old Y510p, which was bulkier and had a second graphics card.

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It's certainly in the range, but if you take the non-touch version, it's still an 11% reduction in weight. Adding touch while still reducing weight by 4% is not bad.

It's the Y40 that seems a little shady. Claiming it's a 4lb laptop when it's closer to 5?

 

Still an improvement over:

Y410p (4.9, 5.5 with SLI)
Y510p (5.9, 6.4 with SLI)

 

Sure, in the sense that 4.8 < 4.9 and 5.7 < 5.9. It's just not a "holy cow, Imma get me one a those!" type of improvement. I'm sticking with the Y410p.

 

Of course, no sense in upgrading if you already have the latest, especially since performance is going to be fairly similar.

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Why are you always changing your avatars?

 

Any news about how powerfull the 860m will be?

 

Most probably on par with gt765 with a bit of OC but this is just an educated guess.... no actual info was released by nvidia as of yet.

 

Will the Y40 have the nvidia optiom or just the Y50?
Gotta say both these laptops look great but more interested in the Y40.

 

Y40 will have ATI R7 270 in max config

 

Bummer
Still the Y50 looks good but wish it had the carbon fiber look.

 

This will be an awsome laptop if the 860m is very good, if not i am going for the asus g750

 

Those are pretty different machines. One is fairly thin, whereas the other is thick and heavy. Why not go Sager/Clevo? I only ask because I am trying to decide between this, the ASUS, and Sager.

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Clevo W230 will have 860M+QHD+ in 13.3 inch. Pricing of the 4K Y50 will entirely depend whether it can compete against Clevo

 

True that jobine...as i see it now the clevo will blow the y40 out of the water...in terms of performance and screen quality(tn on lenovo vs ips on clevo,fullhd on lenovo vs QHD on clevo)

The onlything the y40 would have going for itself is the touch and the looks(that's if they don't change it drastically wich is very plausible right now)

 

Or price...

Lenovo said Y40 starts at 699$.

 

I'd bet anything right now that for 699 lenovo isn't packing the r7...maybe not even the fhd.

 

Considering the R7 is probably weaker than the 755, and that's included in all models, i predict the 699$ model to be R7+768p.

Plus it's easier from a manufacturer's viewpoint to mass manufacture R7 boards than to make both R7 and non R7 boards.

 

Yeah...that sounds about right ...anyway we'll just wait and see.

 

i think the $699 version will have FHD but without a dedicated graphics card since its the baseline model and it has been stated that the y40/y50 comes standard with fhd display.

 

I'm really leaning towards the Y50 with the 860M (don't really care about the 4K screen, but nice option to have). It's got a nice sleek look compared to MSI's GE60 or Clevo brand (chassis redesign probably won't happen until Broadwell release).

Best guess is that the 860M will be a Maxwell chip (see http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...s-800m-series-coming-out-february-2014-a.html).

For early comparing if the 860M is a Kepler card, see the following sites.

NotebookCheck.net
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
(Mostly to see where it measures up on it's Class Chart)

TechPowerUp Page:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M | techPowerUp GPU Database
(If you look up the 770M, it's the same specs.)

Hopefully, it is a Maxwell card so the performance should be higher than a 770M.

 

I think the ASUS will be better, there is not so much differnce in cost, but the asus has better build quality, and problaly better fans, and it looks much better. But we still dont know about the 860m, so for me it is between the y50 and the g750

 

If the y50 will be as powerfull as the 770m i will definatly buy it!
(English is not my native language)

 

G750 weighs 9 pounds and is like 2.5 inches thick...

ASUS... Build Quality? Lol good one. (not saying Lenovo's is better, but my experiences with ASUS were terrible to say the least)

 

Thats as thick and almost as heavy as EUROCOM's mobile server...

 

they obviously will discard ultrabay and dvd writer

 

I wonder why the quoted battery life is relatively low. It has a Haswell CPU and Optimus, therefore either the battery is really measly or one can squeeze out more when using low brightness and CPU clocks when on battery. I mean it's comparable say to a Dell XPS15 when on battery, and that one gets 6 hours with the smaller battery of 61 Wh.

 

I have to say this laptop looks pretty good. A few thoughts as a first post:

1) The 4k screen coupled with GPU and touch screen I would expect a fairly hefty price tag that may go against why the previous lenovo gaming machines were so popular. I have not yet seen many cheap decent quality 4k screens in any context. Super HD screens are going to be the future and usually buyers want a laptop that will serve them for at least half a decade. Being so early onto the market I'd like to get a better idea of how much more expensive it actually is. Later in the year I forsee many more choices on the ultra HD market so by the time we wait for May release, their may be more options to wait further!!!

2) Irrelevent of gaming preferences, higher than 1080p resolution screens are desirable for other applications and general useage. I am a designer and love the apple retina screens - both colours, contrast and of course not being able to see pixels, even when scaled and even on games it looks gorgeous. I find it hard to justify spending a lot of money on a 1080p laptop when I can see pixels, colors and contrasts often look washed out or have poor viewing angles. We have had amazing displays on phones for some time but laptops seem slow to catch up. It's not all about resolution but also color representation and saturation, contrast, lack of ghosting etc. I fully concede the retina displays are awesome, even on some games they help make the epxerience beautiful. IMO so many gaming laptops use dated or weak performance screens.

3) The aesthetics actually are not too bad. Had the MSI GT60 3K edition not been so dated and ugly in appearance I would probably have bought one already. Aesthetics are not neccessarily the most important thing but they have really held me back from MSI and other similar brands especially when you're paying so much coin.

4) in a gaming machine Im not neccessarily so interested in how thin it is. I wouldn't have minded if they made the Y40 super slim and the Y50 a bit thicker to house better/more components and cooling. They have a difference appearance and screen size already, why not make them appeal to slightly different markets a little more strongly.

It's kind of difficult to buy a gaming/crossover laptop at the moment.
- Apple have crap GPU's and hard to get decent memory without breaking the bank. They can never be a genuine gaming machine.
- MSI makes a few good choices including 3k screen GT60 but damn ugly.
- Alienware makes well designed, stylish and durable laptops but no ultra HD screens yet and overpriced.
- Razor were on the right track but put awful screens with bad viewing angles into their laptops.
- Most of the other brands are either starting to become dated (Qosmio, Asus etc) or are bland.

 

Different hardware, different power consumption.
You can't expect a budget gaming/performance laptop to be perfect in every aspect.

 

It might no have optimus AFAIK. In fact, the only reason the Y510p/Y410p had optimus was because of an error on part of the designers, they didn't want their Y series to have decent battery life so they could sell their ultraportables. On the older Y400/Y500, the Intel GPU was disabled on the chip.

Don't know about the newer ROG laptops but the G75VW has optimus disabled, which allows you to use Nvidia 3D and shadowplay.

Except the P570WM (Clevo) packs twice the GPU power, can have 4 standard SATA 2.5 hard drives (Raid 0+1 in a laptop), a desktop-class CPU...

 

as far as you know...? that's just nonsense, you as everyone else don't know any facts. same for your speculation Lenovo would intentionally gimp their laptops.

If the 860m didn't have Optimus, they couldn't/wouldn't quote 4 hours of battery life either. And somemore they wouldn't specifically advertise an improved battery life.

 

And twice as ugly

 

Okay, then you explain why the iGP was pursposely disabled on the Y400/Y500 despite Optimus technology obviously existing at the time. Also we still do not know how much capacity the Y50's battery will have, plus the fact that the Y500 with 72w/h battery could last 4 hours if you took one GPU out, leaving the 650M (no Optimus) as the primary GPU.

 

Just guessing here, but I imagine that if you are using a 4K display that it will need to use the dedicated GPU (R7 270M or 860M), so it will drain the battery faster than a 1080P using the Intel HD4600. Unfortunately, that 4 Hour battery life claim doesn't describe under which circumstances.

As much as I get aggro for saying it, when you label your laptop as a gaming\entertainment laptop, don't expect to get a lot of battery life.

 

750 TI specs were *supposedly* leaked...and the results were not appetizing to be honest.
However, peeps are saying that the architecture is maxwell. How sure are we of the 800 mobile series not being maxwell? The performance gains could be minimal, but it would start making sense with the whole Vitrual unified memory thing where the cpu and the gpu share the same ram . I mean, 4gb for the 860m and 8gb for the 880m? Maybe maxwell is not the same as fermi was to tesla, but as kepler was to fermi. Streamlining and power efficiency being the top focuses. Could this mean that the y50 could be packing maxwell?
Speculation ended. Probably just and oced 765m or a 5 smx enabled gk106.

 

I wish it was May. I need a new laptop now.

I am doubtful the 4k screen will be touch. Maybe touch just available on the 1080p screen?

 

Why would you doubt that....all ces videos show 4k touch.

Touch is applied on top of a screen via a digitizer...it's not embedded in the screen itself so the same screen can be touch or non touch without major changes.


Chow meow the performance upgrade is minimal because the 750ti that was leaked is 28nm maxwell. They changed the architecture while retaining the old 28nm process. The real upgrades will come with 20Nm maxwell when it will be a die shrink and architecture change combined.

 

I wonder if it's really the i7-4702MQ. Good luck cooling that in less than 1" form factor. Razer has issues cooling it, Clevo W230ST has issues cooling it, especially when coupled with a shared GPU heatpipe. I was thinking it might be an i7 U CPU with 850m. Weight shows starting at 5.7 lbs though, which is pretty beefy.

4K @ 15.6" ~ 282ppi which is close to the holy grail of 300ppi. Should downscale fine for games.

I hope it gets official specs released soon.

 

It's not the 4702MQ, it's the HQ edition, which is used in the XPS 15 and rMBP.

 

4702HQ is the same as 4702MQ just it's soldered and not socketed. And the MBP isn't the best at keeping that thing cool either.

 

Considering Lenovo's track record with cooling i don't think this laptop will run that cool. But wait, are you actually considering this over a Clevo?

 

Weight starts at 4.7 with no touch and it's confirmed to be "up to GTX graphics" so gt850 is out of question for max config. The ces variant had gtx860

Also I guess it won't be a biggy as long as it doesn't throttle bellow normal frequency(no turbo) in shared cpu/gpu usage if it can go full out on only cpu.

Some undervolting and underclocking with XTU could also help to get sort of a midway turbo.(2.8-3.0 ghz)

Btw the clevo w230st has 1 cooling fan...this thing has two