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    Y50 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Loney111111

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    Everyone seems to be sure that the y50 will have an optional 860m but I can't seem to find anything except for rumors and other than that just a vague optional Nvidia GTX card. Can someone please give an official video or link that confirms this?
     
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    Check out Lenovo'dan 4K Ekrana Sahip Yeni Nesil Oyuncu Dizüstü Bilgisayar
    Although the guy isn't speaking english but you'll get to see the specs. If you check the previous pages you'd be able to find more links.
     
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    I read the pages, but maybe I missed them. Is this someone who actually works at Lenovo or got the information from one?
     
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    I don't think he works for Lenovo but that's not the point. All the videos you see around for the y40/50 were from CES 2014. The person had to be there to record the video...Which seems legit enough to be true.
     
  6. -Jinx-

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    The first GTX nvidia is 860m...anything bellow that is GT850m and down. Since lenovo itself marketed it with optional GTX graphics it means you will ATLEAST be able to get GTX860 if not more.

    If that's not enough for you there are alot of videos showing device manager of y50 with GTX860 at CES 2014
     
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    Okay, thanks guys.
     
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    It would be a beast if i could have a 870m or 880m.
     
  9. Jobine

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    It would probably cook itself also considering how thin it is.
     
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    Not just itself, everything else including the wood under it LOL
     
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    i will have a cooling plate under it when i game, for sure.
     
  12. Loney111111

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    Or completely throttle.

    There were some laptops that had amazing hardware... But unless if you had the best laptop cooler, its performance would've nosedived as soon as you fire up a game.
     
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    Ok...so just to clarify...870 would provably be too much but if we take into consideration the fact that 765 and actually runs pretty cool I think 865 could also be viable. It's the intel chips that are the big thermal generators.
     
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    Has there been confirmation of the 865M?
    If anything, I see Nvidia opening up with an 860m, which is then followed up by a Maxwell 860mx or something like that.
    I pray to god they free up that memory bus.
     
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    I think they'll be introducing 860m with Maxwell architecture in 28nm, and then 865m as a refresh in 20nm.
     
  17. pca9

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    I am a bit confused right now, will there be up to a 860m or a 865m? Or maybe higher.
     
  18. Any_Key

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    As of now there are only 3 GTX cards, 860M, 870M, and 880M. The GTX860M has been shown in the Y50. There isn't a 865M at the moment and is purely speculation. Could there be a 865M in released later in the year, maybe.

    Doubt the Y50 would be capable of handling cooling within reasonable limits on anything higher than a 860M.
     
  19. Cipy

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    860m is something a little better than 760m ? like "762.5" ? :)
     
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    the 760m isn't really that good. I hope the 860m is at least a 765m or 770m since the y40 will have even worse gpu.
     
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    Me Too. If the 860M's performance is exactly or somewhere near the 770M's, I have no problem with this laptop. Definitely gonna buy it when comes out.
     
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    Lenovo should at least update the y50's page on their website with the possible hardware combinations and prices so we could know what is expected to hit the market.
     
  23. -Jinx-

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    If they would do that they would kill sales for y510p so stop hoping for that. Releasing exact details so long in advance is a big marketing no no
     
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    Then it would mean that it does have something more powerful than a 860m. If not, its not even on the same league as the y510p. Different target audience.
     
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    It would be awsome if they showed how well the 800-series perform in games, on the site.
     
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    True, but if it's better than y510p they won't post, because no one will buy y510p after, and just wait for the y50. But if is worst than y510p will be the opossite. Every one will spend their money on the y510p and forget about the y50p. :)
     
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    The former may be true but the latter isn't. People would still buy the y510p one they find out that the y50 is crap. imo, they are targeting another audience with the y50. The people who want quality and light multimedia laptops for professional usage.
     
  28. Any_Key

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    Based on NoteBookCheck.net the 860M will be more powerful than a 770M and the 750M SLI (slightly less powerful than the 755M SLI). Again, estimates since the card isn't out in the wild and no performance tests can confirm.

    Once the y50 is in production, the y510 will most likely be discontinued and sold at discount from any retailer that still has them in inventory.
     
  29. Jobine

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    Actually, if you don't mind a subpar glossy display, the Y500 FHD 650M SLI is somewhat better than the Y510p, since it runs much cooler, and can be overclocked if you need the 755M-like performance anyways. Aside from GPU-Boost 2.0, which is intelligent overclocking, Nvidia 750/755M offers nothing over 650/660M, and Ivy Bridge is only 5% weaker than Haswell. Not to mention the Y500 is 800$ on eBay. Also the Y500 has Msata, so you can have a 512GB SSD + 1TB HDD + SLI :)
     
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    when is Y40/Y50 suppose to come out?
     
  31. Jobine

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    Some rumors say March, others say June. Your best luck at getting an answer to this question is by contacting Lenovo.
     
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    Since when did the Y500 have a subpar display? Better than the Y410p one at least.
     
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    In may. And it is so perfect for me because in Norway we have a tradition in may, it some church stuff, and then i get allot of money, maybe around 5000 dollars even more.
     
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    All the videos I have seen on youtube say that it will be out in may, but maybe i am wrong.
     
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    When I contacted them they said there was nothing official but probably around June.
     
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    According to the previous generations the 860m should be a slightly better or worse than the 770m. I compared 760m vs 670m and 660m vs 570m with the 760m being slightly better and the 660m being slightly worse. Although I think it would lean towards it being better if the architecture is better along with the more recent chips having the 60 be a little better than the previous 70. At worst it would be a little weaker unless they do something unexpected although I'll admit I don't have a great deal of experience in this matter.
     
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    Check the other thread in the gaming section on Maxwell. If the 860M is a Kepler refresh, than don't expect much. If Maxwell 28nm, again, don't expect too much other than architecture change . If Maxwell 20nm, then you can expect some pretty awesome increases due to increased CUDA counts. If it does indeed launch in May/June, mass production is most likely to begin in a month or two, which indicates that it will pretty much be either a Kepler refresh or a 28nm Maxwell chip. It might get a 20nm Maxwell refresh later, but don't expect it at launch. I'm also willing to bet that due to the slim profile they'll throttle speed to keep thermals within reasonable limits of the cooling system.
     
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    the y40/y50 despite the slim profile, could run a bit cooler because of the separate fans/heatsinks for the cpu and the gpu (correct my if i'm wrong, just basing on what i see in videos :) ), which is going to be completely a different experience from their previous multimedia line. if the new cooling system is better than expected, i might ditch my old y500 for the new y50.
     
  39. -Jinx-

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    The 750 in the n550(dual fan cooling also) doesn't even break a sweat so I don,t see why it would not be possible to cool the 860 without throttling in the same thickness aprox.
    Mind you that I'm not saying that it will be a cool laptop..just that it's possible to keep it from throttling.
     
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    The Razer Blade manages to cool a 765M and a 4702 without throttling and sounding like a hair dryer. I'm sure the Y50 can manage.
     
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    It can? When, where?
     
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    Just about every review I've read applauds the cooling system quietness and the fact that it doesn't throttle.
     
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    The razer blade does throttle the CPU.. down to the base frequenccy...it is unable to go turbo.
    Too bad it has that sh*t screen
     
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    Most videos that review the Razer Blade are made by non-techies/consumers. Also, according to the reviews on Notebookcheck, the Blade gets just as hot as the Y510p when fully stressed. They also state that even though the CPU does not throttle, it can't go higher than it's base clock of 2.2GHz.
     
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    Yes during Furmark +Prime95 which isn't even a realistic gaming load. Point is they have the room in a 15.6" to get it right without being loud, I can't wait to see what they accomplish.
     
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    I dont really care so much about the small stuff with this laptop, if it can run watch dogs, battlefield 4 and the crew on decent graphics, cost under 1700 dollar, doesnt burn of my skin if have it on my lap, not a f*cking meter thick (like many other gaming laptop) and maybe have space for m.sata ssd (i could just buy the wd black dual drive), if i get all this, i am more than happy. Also a 4k screen would be awsome to have for the future
     
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    There is some conflicting reports on pricing, some say base is $699, others $999... If I had to guess they would roughly a little more than the current price of the Y510/Y410, except for the 4K screen upgrade which will probably be the most expensive of the upgrades.

    I'm not sure how the performance on the R9 M270X would be but for the GTX 860M you shouldn't have any problems with BF4, haven't seen what the Min Spec for Watch Dogs is yet, however, since it's releasing on both current gen and next gen consoles, in theory it too shouldn't be that much of a struggle.
     
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    I hope it is atlest under 1900 dollar with the highest configurarion; 4k screen, 860m/870m, 8gb ram, intel i7 and sshd. And I think if i can run battlefield 4 on medium/high, i think i can run almost every game out there now.
     
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    I think low price and high performance are the signature trends Lenovo had with the Y-Series.
    My suggestion would be the 4k panel, Core i7, GTX 860M, 16GB RAM and 1TB SSHD for somewhere near $1500 at most. Besides I think if the performance is close to 770M's, you should be able to get 30+ fps in Battlefield 4 with Ultra settings.
     
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    Wonder if the R9 M270X will have mantle support?
     
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