Y510P Factory 1TB HDD (Upgrade)

Hey guys,

I notice that my Y510P loading into windows seems to be taking too long (using the factory samsung 1TB) and I decided to run some benchmark to figure out what is the performance I am getting. I have the 24GB SSD disable to get the true HDD performance and the results are truly disappointing.

HDtune Read Test


Drive Specs


I decided to throw in a brand new Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm 2.5" drive (LEFT) to increase the laptop performance


HDtune Read Test


Drive Specs


The overall experience with this laptop is now more responsive and I got no idea why Lenovo couldn't throw in a better drive like WD Blue 1TB or Toshiba 1TB drive instead of the slow performing Samsung. If it wasn't for the 24GB caching SSD assisting on the booting up or cache, no one could have realise how crappy the performance of the HDD. Having the minimum transfer rate of 18MB/s? Oh Gosh!

Not sure if any see from my point of view.

 

They put that drive in to save money so they can sell this laptop at a lower cost. That is the only reason. Most people upgrade to a SSD anyways.

 

I guess that the obvious reason is to making as much $$$ from us. Given that they have decided to a Single Heatsink to cool a 47W i7 processor and a 35-40W GPU and not counting the bad Ultrabay GT 750M cooling mechanism.

I hope the upcoming Y50, would improve on such issues as it is likely to use Haswell CPUs.

 

Instead of complaining, why didn't you upgrade your Alienware M15x as everyone in your other thread had advised? That was the more financially sensible and just overall smarter choice.

 

Funny you say that, because a 750GB 7200RPM costs just as much as the 1TB 5400RPM, but provides more performance.

Y510p uses Haswell CPU's. However, the Y50 will have the 37W 4702HQ, which is not only 10W lower but is soldered to the motherboard. But the Y50 will also be much thinner, i wouldn't count on it being much cooler in that regard.

The reason why the Y510p uses the 47W CPU's is because when the laptops launched (Q2 2013) the 4700MQ was the only Haswell CPU availible at the time. However the Y510p was criticized for throttling versus it's Ivy Bridge counterpart.

And I would have seconded you upgrading your M15x. You could have bought a 780M for like 400-500$ and called it a day.

 

haha, just ranting on why Lenovo design engineers didn't factor in on the heat management system before comissioning it for final retail built. Actually why I decided to switch over is because I see the potential this sli system could achieve, it will involved some tweaking and some modding which I have to make plans for. I personally see it as a challenge I would take up. But I do apologize if I had rant too much as I see things which could be ratified on system design end but instead was left as it is by the designers. Will be starting to explore and looking indept on how I could push this system further. =)

Cheers peeps, just sharing on all specs of this system.

 

I think relatively, the Samsung drive do command a lower price on the mass oem purchase. As Samsung hdd unit is now under Seagate and Sammy are not known for performance in the 2.5" mechanical drives unlike their SSD.

Yes, y510p comes with 4700mq but using the same design consideration as the y500p, lessons seems to be not learned on improving the heat management. I seriously hope the Y50 is designed to optimize heat discharge and performance.

 

Easy. They "did" provide sufficient cooling. Ivy Bridge CPU's don't run that hot and 650M is an underclocked 750M, so both of these older components had no major overheating in the Y500 chassis. Thing is, the engineers did barely anything when upgrading to the Y510p. They put in a hotter running chip (blame intel, Ivy Bridge is still better than Haswell desktop-wise due to running much cooler), and overclocked GPU's, while maintaining the same chassis.
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The only way you can achieve Ivy-Bridge-like temps is by undervolting (thank god Haswell brought back undervolting), and underclocking the GPU's to 650M standards.

 

What "potential?" You mean the potential for problems? All you had to do was pop a 7970M or 680M into the M15x and it would trash this thing, plus you would have hundreds left over to upgrade RAM and SSD's and whatnot.