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    Y510P or Y50?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by BigAl42, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. BigAl42

    BigAl42 Newbie

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    Hi. I'm looking to get either the Y510P or the Y50. I'm having trouble deciding between which one would be a better buy.

    Here's the two exact models:

    Y510P - Lenovo IdeaPad Y510P 1080p i7 4700MQ 8GB 1TB 8GB Dual GT750M SLI Gaming Laptop | eBay

    Y50 - Lenovo Y50 - Gaming Laptop - Newegg.com

    From what I've seen so far, the Y510P's SLI has more cons than pros (heat, stuttering, lack of support). I've heard that it's always better to go with the single, more powerful card over the two SLI cards. That's why I'm leaning towards the Y50. I'm just a little hesitant because there aren't any professional reviews yet.

    What do you think? Y510P or Y50?
     
  2. sangemaru

    sangemaru Notebook Deity

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    Considering how the GT-750M is pretty much hot, noisy trash? And SLI'd, oh brother.
    Just go with the Y50, maxwell powah.
     
  3. pigulici

    pigulici Notebook Guru

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    On paper, Y50 look good, wait for reviews...
     
  4. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Y50, no brainer.
     
  5. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah another vote for the Y50, just be prepared for a sub-par TN screen, it's sort of a crap shoot with what screen you get.
     
  6. Incontro

    Incontro Notebook Evangelist

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    If you want more than the performance of what a single GT 755M offers, go for the Y50 for sure.

    Otherwise, not that much of a reason to go for the Y50 to be honest.
     
  7. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    The 860M performs just as well as 755M SLI without all the headaches associated with Y510P that the OP pointed out.
     
  8. Incontro

    Incontro Notebook Evangelist

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    Hence my post.
     
  9. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    What other reason would there be besides some savings. ;)
     
  10. Incontro

    Incontro Notebook Evangelist

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    + Supposedly better battery life.
    + Additional ultrabay slot for internal Blu-Ray drives, or additional HDD/SSD.
    + Better screens with higher sRGB coverage, better contrast.

    Ignoring GPU performance, the updated chassis (reduced weight/thickness) of the Y50 seems appealing I must admit.
     
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  11. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I'd say the new GPU alone is reason enough to upgrade.

    Really, anybody considering either of these laptops clearly has some form of gaming in mind. And from that perspective, 860m all the way.
     
  12. XxxKing YBxxX

    XxxKing YBxxX Notebook Evangelist

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    If money is tight, I would go with the y510p tbh. It actually has a vastly superior screen covering somewhere between 80-90% sRGB. In pure performance, 755m sli is about equal to 860m. I would go Y50 if:

    1. You can afford it
    2. If portability is an issue.

    If both those are not checked off, I would consider the Y510p a better buy.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  13. Incontro

    Incontro Notebook Evangelist

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    Sweeping statement.

    Everyone has different standards & expectations. Those who bought the Y510p with the optical Blu-Ray drive and never bought the ultrabay GPU are mostly happy with the performance a single GT 755M offers.

    It's marketed as a multimedia laptop too.
     
  14. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Not that sweeping. I've yet to see somebody here say they won't be doing at least a bit of gaming on it. And I'd argue that nobody buys a SLI laptop unless they have either some serious gaming or video editing in mind.

    We're comparing the SLI Y510p to the Y50. When comparing those two models, the Y50 uses a far more efficient GPU for roughly the same performance, yet will not suffer from heating issues, stutter issues, or the other issues that the SLI Y510p suffers from.

    Even if gaming is not that much of a concern, aside from the display, I don't really see any advantages to the Y510p (well, barring the DVD slot and upgrade options).

    If the DVD drive and MSATA and other ports are really important, I would probably suggest looking at another model entirely. Just too many downsides to the SLI. There are many models out there for roughly the same price as the Y50, same specs, but with the ports and optical drive the Y50 lacks.

    Unless, of course, your budget can't buy you anything better than the Y510p. But if you can spare the extra cash, my recommendation is to avoid the SLI.
     
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  15. Incontro

    Incontro Notebook Evangelist

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    The OP originally might have, but I wasn't comparing the SLI model in my previous post. My point was that in general, every owner of the Y510 didn't necessarily buy it solely for its "gaming performance". Its also marketed as a multimedia laptop.

    Strictly speaking, not EVERYONE suffers from these issues. However I mostly agree with this.

    Well if it is heavily discounted, it is worth it if you don't need the increased portability, and want ultra-bay options, better battery life, and a better screen. What I am trying to say is that SLI aside, the Y510p is only worse in terms of portability, and hardly anything else.

    That said, if I hadn't received this laptop as a replacement, I would have been inclined to buy a XPS/ThinkPad instead probably. (No bias)
     
  16. roydok

    roydok Notebook Guru

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    Both are very good laptops with very good gaming and multimedia capabilities.

    Y510p Advantages:
    1. GT 755M SLI version has slightly better gaming performance than GTX 860M based on benchmarks.
    2. Brighter and better LCD screen (comparing 1920 x 1080 screen versions).
    3. Ability to add a 2nd or 3rd hard drive via Ultrabay and M.2 NGFF SSD.
    4. Ability to add optical drive via Ultrabay.
    5. Cheaper than Y50.
    6. Has a VGA port.

    Y510p Disadvantages:
    1. Hotter temperatures due to SLI.
    2. Less battery life due also to SLI.
    3. Heavier and thicker than Y50.
    4. Touch pad needs improvement.

    Y50 Advantages:
    1. More efficient GTX 860M GPU compared to GT 755M/750M SLI. (GT 755M SLI version still edges it in performance by a small margin)
    2. Runs cooler than Y510p.
    3. Lighter in weight with a thinner profile.
    4. Has touch-enabled and 4k screens (in some versions).
    5. Better wireless card.
    6. Option for faster Core i7 (Y510p CPU can also be upgraded to a faster version but will void your warranty)
    7. Has subwoofer.

    Y50 Disadvantages:
    1. Inferior screen (1920 x 1080 versions)
     
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  17. BigAl42

    BigAl42 Newbie

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    Thank you everyone for your help. After weighing my options, I decided to go with the Y50 from Newegg for $999.99.

    The SLI disadvantages were really unappealing to me, and from what I'm seeing at Game Debate, the 860M is acutally 8% more powerful than the 750M SLI, ( Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M 2GB compare Nvidia GeForce GT 750M SLI GPU) and 1% more powerful than the 755M SLI ( Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M 2GB compare Nvidia GeForce GT 755M SLI GPU). It felt like a no-brainer.

    For those interested, I might write a review on it and post it in the forums once I get it. Should get it sometime next week.

    Here's the model I bought:
    Lenovo Y50 - Gaming Laptop - Newegg.com
     
  18. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Be sure to check which display panel you received and let us know.
     
  19. roydok

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    Stay away from Chimei LCDs.
     
  20. LanceAvion

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    Great comment, if you hadn't gotten around to this I would have. What some people need to understand is that computers (laptops especially) are the sum of there parts. More versatility (y510p) is preferred to graphical prowess (y50) is some cases.
     
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